CNN POLL: 75% Of Financial Experts Say Romney Victory Would Improve Markets...

[Truthmatters]

the people in this poll depend on cheating to get ahead

 

[occupied]

Really?

I'm sure that the people working at companies like Staples, Toys R Us, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, etcetera, are all perfectly happy to be in that "narrow group".

Can you tell me that anything he has ever done has been primarily to create jobs? Of course not, his primary aim in business has always been to enrich himself, you want to apply that attitude to the presidency and expect beneficial results for the population at large? This guy would gauge his success by Wall Street and nothing else and it is glaringly obvious that their success does not trickle down nearly as much as republicans would like us to believe.

Half a loaf is better than none, which is what we've gotten from the BoiKing and his Chicago mobsters.

If you want to gauge political success by the stock market, as is the faulty premise of the thread, then you are incorrect.

 

[Truthmatters]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/current-events/233550-wall-street-execs-you-have-to-cheat-to-win.html

 

[Oddball]

Back to the wealth envy crap again I see, you are a lazy debater.

You're the one who is always beating on the wealthy, for no better reason that they're wealthy.

The lazy debater is the bigot, bigot.

I beat on the wealthy (mainly wall street banker types) because they are in charge and sucking the rest of us into horrible situations. You accuse me of irrational hatred but that could not be further from the truth, if these people insist on gathering that much power unto themselves and they fuck up they deserve to be spanked.

You beat on the wealthy because you have an irrational victimhood complex, and project it onto them.

No better evidence of this exists that your completely irrational, ill-informed, bigoted and hateful posts, over the course of the last several days, if not from the date you landed here.

Like I said...Grow the hell up.

 

[occupied]

Jobs were a side effect of his primary aim of cashing in for himself.

Yeah no shit. Give us more of that side effect.

There was also the nasty side effect of liquidation and moving offshore, we have had plenty of that already. I am not sure it is possible to get a figure of net jobs created or saved by his activities but it is almost certainly in negative territory.

 

[occupied]

You're the one who is always beating on the wealthy, for no better reason that they're wealthy.

The lazy debater is the bigot, bigot.

I beat on the wealthy (mainly wall street banker types) because they are in charge and sucking the rest of us into horrible situations. You accuse me of irrational hatred but that could not be further from the truth, if these people insist on gathering that much power unto themselves and they fuck up they deserve to be spanked.

You beat on the wealthy because you have an irrational victimhood complex, and project it onto them.

No better evidence of this exists that your completely irrational, ill-informed, bigoted and hateful posts, over the course of the last several days, if not from the date you landed here.

Like I said...Grow the hell up.

Repeating yourself? Now that's lazy.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Jobs were a side effect of his primary aim of cashing in for himself.

Yeah no shit. Give us more of that side effect.

There was also the nasty side effect of liquidation and moving offshore, we have had plenty of that already. I am not sure it is possible to get a figure of net jobs created or saved by his activities but it is almost certainly in negative territory.

Why yes, almost certainly.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The companies Romney turned around don't think so.

Pretty narrow group there, any mention of the ones he simply liquidated without a second thought? A president must have some sort of concern for those working people who suffer by his decisions and I do not see that in him.

You mean like when Obama promised to bankrupt the coal industry? Or when his decision with GM killed thousands of factory and dealership jobs? Or when his jobs czar cut GE's US work force by half then rehired the Chinese workers?

Hack

 

[occupied]

The companies Romney turned around don't think so.

Pretty narrow group there, any mention of the ones he simply liquidated without a second thought? A president must have some sort of concern for those working people who suffer by his decisions and I do not see that in him.

You mean like when Obama promised to bankrupt the coal industry? Or when his decision with GM killed thousands of factory and dealership jobs? Or when his jobs czar cut GE's US work force by half then rehired the Chinese workers?

Hack

Then by your logic Romney would be no better and probably worse.

 

[Truthmatters]

http://www.usmessageboard.com/current-events/233550-wall-street-execs-you-have-to-cheat-to-win.html

out of their own mouths and you ignore it

 

[tererun]

So according to the poll 75% of the people who do not manufacture or sell anything, but who make a lot of money off of shifting money around are saying that the guy who would allow them to raid financial institutions for profit like he did would improve the market by allowing them to crash companies for profit?

Well no fucking duh they want mitt. he will help them to sell america overseas. If I made my money off of ripping off the american middle class and poor i would say good shit about mittens also. It does not make it so.

 

[flacaltenn]

Romney will go along with whatever the Fed tells him to do like every other president. He will appoint a bunch of G+S alumni to regulatory positions like every other president. He will know who rules the economy like every other, he is no cure for any of that shit.

Perhaps. Out of the two choices, Romney still has the most experience turning around financial situations.

I am going with the warts that give me the best opportunity to succeed by my hand and abilities.

I don't agree, he has experience in personally benefiting from bad situations but that is nothing like salvaging a situation for all involved.

All that has to be done is to

1) Clarify and make a permanent tax policy.

2) Redirect govt resources towards a REALISTIC energy policy.

3) Repeal the ill-conceived ACA and work for replacement.

4) Tell Congress to WRITE THEIR OWN legislation and quit letting the bureaucrats fill in the blanks at their leisure.

5) Work to stabilize SS and Medicare

6) Reduce spending and show creditors that the dollar is strong.

That helps EVERYONE.. And NONE of that is getting done now. Instead -- we're getting lectured about fairness and social justice, hope and change, and sustainability.

I'll be relieved when the Leadership starts tackling the WHOLE jobs problem, not just the jobs THEY like..

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Pretty narrow group there, any mention of the ones he simply liquidated without a second thought? A president must have some sort of concern for those working people who suffer by his decisions and I do not see that in him.

You mean like when Obama promised to bankrupt the coal industry? Or when his decision with GM killed thousands of factory and dealership jobs? Or when his jobs czar cut GE's US work force by half then rehired the Chinese workers?

Hack

Then by your logic Romney would be no better and probably worse.

No, by my logic Romney wasn't president of the US. He was president of Bain. What's Obama's excuse?

 

[OODA_Loop]

Well no fucking duh they want mitt. he will help them to sell america overseas. If I made my money off of ripping off the american middle class and poor i would say good shit about mittens also. It does not make it so.

The cost of the "global economy" drags down margins.

Business would prefer to keep it domestic.

Over regulation, punitive taxation and an unprepared, unmotivated work force drove as much opportunity overseas to meet demand and drive profit.

 

[flacaltenn]

So according to the poll 75% of the people who do not manufacture or sell anything, but who make a lot of money off of shifting money around are saying that the guy who would allow them to raid financial institutions for profit like he did would improve the market by allowing them to crash companies for profit?

Well no fucking duh they want mitt. he will help them to sell america overseas. If I made my money off of ripping off the american middle class and poor i would say good shit about mittens also. It does not make it so.

Have yu even noticed how many American jobs have resulted from FOREIGN companies locating their manufacturing over HERE? Toyota? BMW? Philips? Shell? Nestle?

You've got no concept of what Venture Capital does.. Or why NOTHING moves in the market without it -- except from the GIANT MEGA corps that you despise.. The Venture guys like Bain are the folks fighting BIG multi-nationals..

You should buy a program to the event.. You'd enjoy the game a lot better knowing who the players are and what they do..

 

[Truthmatters]

So according to the poll 75% of the people who do not manufacture or sell anything, but who make a lot of money off of shifting money around are saying that the guy who would allow them to raid financial institutions for profit like he did would improve the market by allowing them to crash companies for profit?

Well no fucking duh they want mitt. he will help them to sell america overseas. If I made my money off of ripping off the american middle class and poor i would say good shit about mittens also. It does not make it so.

yeap and they also say themselves that cheating is what goes on in their field to make money

 

[Avorysuds]

the same guys who gave us the mess were in

TM: How to Deal With Impossible People: 14 steps - wikiHow

Some highlight that I think every person on these boards have come to know as true about TM. TM is a “impossible person.”

“Do not call them out because it will frustrate them. They could become more difficult, but just stand your ground and be confident.”

“Realize that you cannot deal with impossible people the same way you deal with everyone else. In some ways, they need to be treated like children. Give up all hope of engaging these folks in any kind of reasonable conversation. It will never happen, at least with you. Remember what happened the last fifty times you tried to have a civilized discussion about the status of your relationship with this person. Chances are, every such attempt ended in you being blamed for everything. Decide now to quit banging your head against a brick wall.”

“Protect your self-esteem. If you have regular dealings with someone who tries to portray you as the source of all evil, you need to take active steps to maintain a positive self-image. Remind yourself that this person's opinion is not necessarily the truth. Understand that oftentimes, impossible people are particularly "fact-challenged." If the attacks have little basis in raw fact, dismiss them. You can't possibly be as bad as this person would like you to believe you are. Do not defend yourself out loud, however. It will only provoke the impossible person into another tirade.”

“Give up self-defense. Understand very clearly that you cannot beat these kinds of people; they're called "impossible" for a reason. In their minds, you are the source of all wrongdoing, and nothing you can say is going to make them consider your side of the story. Your opinion is of no consequence, because you are already guilty, no matter what.”

“Realize that impossible people engage in projection. Understand that you are going to be accused of much (or all) of this behavior yourself. If your impossible person gets a look at this text, to them it will look like a page about you. Prepare yourself for the fact that the impossible person's flaws and failings will always be attributed to you. Remember, in their minds, you are at fault for everything! They will have an endless supply of arguments to support this, and if you make the mistake of encouraging them, they will be more than happy to tell you why you are the impossible person, and how ironic it is that you are under the mistaken impression that it is them.”


Narcissism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hotchkiss' seven deadly sins of narcissism
Hotchkiss identified what she called the seven deadly sins of narcissism:[6]
1. Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.
2. Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.
3. Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may reinflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.
4. Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person's ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.
5. Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an "awkward" or "difficult" person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
6. Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.
7. Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist there is no boundary between self and other.

Narcissistic personality disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Narcissistic personality disorder

Symptoms of this disorder may include, but are not limited to:
• Reacts to criticism with anger, shame, or humiliation
• May take advantage of others to reach their own goals
• Tends to exaggerate their own importance, achievements, and talents
• Imagines unrealistic fantasies of success, beauty, power, intelligence, or romance
• Requires constant attention and positive reinforcement from others
• Easily becomes jealous
• Lacks empathy and disregards the feelings of others
• Obsessed with oneself
• Mainly pursues selfish goals
• Trouble keeping healthy relationships
• Is easily hurt and rejected
• Sets goals that are unrealistic
• Wants "the best" of everything
• Appearing unemotional

 

[occupied]

Well no fucking duh they want mitt. he will help them to sell america overseas. If I made my money off of ripping off the american middle class and poor i would say good shit about mittens also. It does not make it so.

The cost of the "global economy" drags down margins.

Business would prefer to keep it domestic.

Over regulation, punitive taxation and an unprepared, unmotivated work force drove as much opportunity overseas to meet demand and drive profit.

Americans prefer to be paid well and not live in a polluted shithole at the mercy of crooked banks and shady investors, weeeeeellllll excuse us.

 

[Sinjorri]

Pretty narrow group there, any mention of the ones he simply liquidated without a second thought? A president must have some sort of concern for those working people who suffer by his decisions and I do not see that in him.

You mean like when Obama promised to bankrupt the coal industry? Or when his decision with GM killed thousands of factory and dealership jobs? Or when his jobs czar cut GE's US work force by half then rehired the Chinese workers?

Hack

Then by your logic Romney would be no better and probably worse.

Liberal defense, Romney wasnt president.

 

[flacaltenn]

Well no fucking duh they want mitt. he will help them to sell america overseas. If I made my money off of ripping off the american middle class and poor i would say good shit about mittens also. It does not make it so.

The cost of the "global economy" drags down margins.

Business would prefer to keep it domestic.

Over regulation, punitive taxation and an unprepared, unmotivated work force drove as much opportunity overseas to meet demand and drive profit.

Americans prefer to be paid well and not live in a polluted shithole at the mercy of crooked banks and shady investors, weeeeeellllll excuse us.

Which crooked banks and shady investors ate your cookie today baby?