China in military exercise with NATO country

[ekrem]

The Chinese aircrafts flew through Pakistan and Iran to arrive in Konya, Turkey.
The War games with China come as Chinese President will visit Turkey from 8th to 9th October.

Sometime during September, an unknown number of China's People's Liberation Army Air Force Russian-built Su-27 and Mig-29 fighters landed at the huge Konya airbase in Turkey's central Anatolia region. Within a few days they were training with Turkish US-built F-16 fighters in the first ever military exercise of its kind between China and a NATO country.

Asia Sentinel - China's Air Force Goes Abroad

 

[ekrem]

Since summer the US has placed no Ambassador in Ankara.
This will stay so propably till January 2011.
No US envoy in Ankara for at least 7 weeks - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review

 

[zzzz]

The Chinese aircrafts flew through Pakistan and Iran to arrive in Konya, Turkey.
The War games with China come as Chinese President will visit Turkey from 8th to 9th October.

Sometime during September, an unknown number of China's People's Liberation Army Air Force Russian-built Su-27 and Mig-29 fighters landed at the huge Konya airbase in Turkey's central Anatolia region. Within a few days they were training with Turkish US-built F-16 fighters in the first ever military exercise of its kind between China and a NATO country.

Asia Sentinel - China's Air Force Goes Abroad

The Chinese are expanding their joint exercises throughout the world. For them this gives their military practical experience with modern militaries that they desperately need. The modernization of their armed forces is coming along quite fast but experience is something that you cannot buy but must earn. these exercises also gives them a sense of the capability of the F-16 (Export models are not up to par with US models) and what to expect in a possible conflict with Japan and or the US over Taiwan. You can expect more of these ventures in the future. The Chinese are already conducting joint naval exercises with I believe Sri Lanka being the latest.

 

[ekrem]

The Islamic Republic of Iran has reportedly opened its airspace to Chinese warplanes taking part in joint military maneuvers with Turkey.

PressTV - Iran opens airspace to China warplanes

 

[ekrem]

F-16 (Export models are not up to par with US models)

F-16 are built in Turkey.
- mission computer
- friend-foe system
- laser seeker
- helmet-cueing system etc.
are all indegineious.

The US does not controll the most critical part of the Aircraft, which is the mission computer. It is this computer where you make changes, so the Aircraft becomes less capable then exact US counterpart.
F-16 Fighting Falcon operators - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Till 2005 Lockheed Martin was 42% shareholder of Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI), the Army Strengthening Foundation purchased Lockheeds shares in 2005.

TAI has also produced F-16s for Egypt, modernizyed F-16s of Jordan and Pakistan


TURKISH AEROSPACE INDUSTRIES INC.
TURKISH AEROSPACE INDUSTRIES INC.

 

[ekrem]

The engines of the F-16 we produce in a joint-venture with General Electric, in which GE has 49% of share.

F-35 engines will be completely produced by Turkish company KaleKalip with Licence from United Technologies Corporation.
Turkey?s aerial industries prosper with JV deals - UPI.com

more infos on usmb.com thread
http://www.usmessageboard.com/military/128578-aerial-industries-prosper-with-f-35-a.html

 

[britishbulldog]

We need to destabilise the commies in China.

We should provide bombs to the Muslim freedom fighters in China and upgrade Taiwan's defence capability.

We should give weapons to India and to Chinese-backed insurgents fighting India. The idea is to get India pissed off enough to declare war on China. Even if China nukes India into the stone age, that is OK, as long as India takes out Shanghai and Beijing.

Every opportunity to show the Chinese that we own em should be taken.

God bless UK and USA.

 

[ekrem]

Every opportunity to show the Chinese that we own em should be taken.

God bless UK and USA.

You are 30 years to late.

 

[britishbulldog]

Every opportunity to show the Chinese that we own em should be taken.

God bless UK and USA.

You are 30 years to late.

No. The timing is right.

We must support a major Islamic insurgency in China. This is very possible.

We must also send our boys into India and attack Indian positions near the Chinese border. If we do this right the Indians will think the Chinese are killing them. India will nuke China and China will nuke India, and we get rid of both upstartts in one go!!!!

God bless USA and UK.

 

[Jeremy]

The engines of the F-16 we produce in a joint-venture with General Electric, in which GE has 49% of share.

F-35 engines will be completely produced by Turkish company KaleKalip with Licence from United Technologies Corporation.
Turkey?s aerial industries prosper with JV deals - UPI.com

more infos on usmb.com thread
http://www.usmessageboard.com/military/128578-aerial-industries-prosper-with-f-35-a.html

Your welcome.

 

[hipeter924]

Let us remember that it was Obama that pissed off the Chinese so much over the Taiwan deal that they cut off military exercises with the US, under Bush US-Chinese relations improved, under Obama they got much worse.

As for ekrem: I hope the US withdraws from Turkey, its a waste of time having a military base there, Turkey is an unstable nation anyway...especially with the rising Islamic movements, as many of the terrorists threatening Europe recently came through and from Turkey.

As for British bulldog: You are so full of shit there. China isn't communist its state capitalist, they replaced a communist state that controls everything with a capitalist state that controls everything.

In addition Taiwan will come part of China some day in the next century, especially due to Chinese economic growth rapidly turning it first world (nor can it hold back the people's demand for Democracy for much longer), in any case once that happens China will stop being the percieved threat it is now, and it will actively fight Islamists, as it doesn't think much of radical religious nut-cases, state Atheism helps that way.

 

[ekrem]

Turkey and China aim to raise bilateral trade to $50 billion a year by 2015 from about $17 billion currently under a new "strategic partnership", the prime ministers of the two countries said on Friday.
"We have decided bilaterally to establish a strategic partnership in our relations," visiting Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao told a news conference with Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan in the capital Ankara.

UPDATE 1-Turkey targets $50 bln China trade by 2015 | Reuters

Both countries also switch from $ to their own currencies in trading.

 

[Douger]

We need to destabilise the commies in China.

We should provide bombs to the Muslim freedom fighters in China and upgrade Taiwan's defence capability.

We should give weapons to India and to Chinese-backed insurgents fighting India. The idea is to get India pissed off enough to declare war on China. Even if China nukes India into the stone age, that is OK, as long as India takes out Shanghai and Beijing.

Every opportunity to show the Chinese that we own em should be taken.

God bless UK and USA.

First off. Fuck the UK.Snaggle toothed, queen worshiping morons that produce nothing but BS.
Second.murka is a broke ass crackhead owned by China and Japan and it also produces BS , other than it's weaponry for the slaughter machine.

Both of you are out of the picture.
It's a new world and you aint invited.

 

[ekrem]

Turkey and China are the fastest-growing economies in the Group of 20 leading nations
The announcement, which analysts labelled "significant," marks Beijing's latest move to broker arrangements to trade in local currencies, in an effort to develop the international use of the yuan. "China does this with the trade partners that it believes will be beneficial to it in future ... It clearly sees Turkey as a big potential trade partner," said Hans Redeker, chief currencies analyst at BNP Paribas in London.
Turkey, China Pledge to Boost Trade - WSJ.com

Mr. China, in next Air Force drill we expect you again.

 

[ekrem]

China Premier Wen Jiabao, described the transaction as a new "strategic partnership", saying he recognized Turkey's "power and influence in the international community and its region".

Both countries - the fastest growing economies in the world - sealed agreements to cooperate in energy, transport and infrastructure.

One of the agreements would open the way for the joint construction of 4,500-kilometer railway in Turkey. Chinese companies are already involved in the construction of railroads for two high-speed train links. Turkey and China are also involved in projects to build oil pipelines from Iran.

China, Turkey Deepen Ties During Rare Visit | Asia | English

 

[ekrem]

28 Billion $ from the 45 Billion $ to be invested in the high-speed railway network will be financed by China.
LINK: Turks, Chinese to build high-speed train lines across Turkey - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review

These are the routes of the high-speed network to be built.

Besides the 6.000 kilometer high-speed line, 4.000 Kilometer conventional railway line will be constructed.
Project finish will be 2023.
Yurdun bir ucundan bir ucuna h?zl? tren haberi Ekonomi haberleri Haber7 haber7.com - Güncel Haberler, Son dakika haberleri --- Bu noktada haber var

 

[ekrem]

China to extend $30 bln for Turkey's high-speed train network

(...)
The rail network will be suitable for high-speed trains that reach speeds of 450 kilometers per hour

China to extend $30 bln for Turkey's high-speed train network

 

[zzzz]

28 Billion $ from the 45 Billion $ to be invested in the high-speed railway network will be financed by China.
LINK: Turks, Chinese to build high-speed train lines across Turkey - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review

These are the routes of the high-speed network to be built.

Besides the 6.000 kilometer high-speed line, 4.000 Kilometer conventional railway line will be constructed.
Project finish will be 2023.
Yurdun bir ucundan bir ucuna h?zl? tren haberi Ekonomi haberleri Haber7 haber7.com - Güncel Haberler, Son dakika haberleri --- Bu noktada haber var

Yes, the Chinese are starting to be good capitalists. Where the US used to have money the chinese are stepping in. International influence through economic assistance is an area in which the US is fading and rightly so. We cannot continue to build up other countries infrastucture and ignore our own failing bridges and roads.

The strategic importance of Turkey to the US dimished with the demise of the old Soviet Union.

 

[hipeter924]

28 Billion $ from the 45 Billion $ to be invested in the high-speed railway network will be financed by China.
LINK: Turks, Chinese to build high-speed train lines across Turkey - Hurriyet Daily News and Economic Review

These are the routes of the high-speed network to be built.

Besides the 6.000 kilometer high-speed line, 4.000 Kilometer conventional railway line will be constructed.
Project finish will be 2023.
Yurdun bir ucundan bir ucuna h?zl? tren haberi Ekonomi haberleri Haber7 haber7.com - Güncel Haberler, Son dakika haberleri --- Bu noktada haber var

Yes, the Chinese are starting to be good capitalists. Where the US used to have money the chinese are stepping in. International influence through economic assistance is an area in which the US is fading and rightly so. We cannot continue to build up other countries infrastucture and ignore our own failing bridges and roads.

The strategic importance of Turkey to the US dimished with the demise of the old Soviet Union.

I am quite pleased, China will soon own Turkey and invade. I will hold "I love China" and "Thanks for freeing Turkey" signs outside the Chinese Embassy here when that happens.

 

[ekrem]

I am quite pleased, China will soon own Turkey and invade. I will hold "I love China" and "Thanks for freeing Turkey" signs outside the Chinese Embassy here when that happens.

The Turkish economy has grown from 26th largest in 2002 to 16th largest in 2010.
Turkey has better credit default swap ratings then some EU members.
There is no problem in liquidity for Turkey.

That we take money from China shows just one fact:
China proposes better conditions then the free-market.

The question is what drives China ? Given that both Airforces also now hold exercises and both leaders have commited to raising bilateral trade to 50 Billion $ by 2015.
Or is China just trying to enhance relations to a country which is dominateing this area economically and year after year widens the gap to all other so-called "regional powers" of this area?


Nothing like China runs Turkey as you describe it.
One step further, China and Turkey should negotiate relocation of Uyghur Turks to Anatolia. It is a win-win situation for both countries.