Can Somebody Who is Military Answer A Question???

[Fraulein Hilda]

What did George Bush do to make the Taliban march into Pakistan this year? What did George Bush do to make NK detonate a nuke and fire off a handful of missiles this year?

You punks want to make us think you are better than the last administration, but when you don't get your way, you blame them anyway?

 

[Xenophon]

The reason is protection of our soldiers. The photos would create horror worldwide. And that alone is enough justification for releasing them. Just as you people are defending torture, the release of the photos would demonstrate just how far this kind of thing goes once it is allowed to start.

What we do to others in other nations, we will do to our own people if those actions are not censored. Remember Andersonville. It has happened here.



Andersonville Prison - Crime Library on truTV.com
A Baby Born in Hell


The condition of
inmates at
Andersonville
(Library of
Congress)In 1864 the Civil War was raging through parts of the South, but actual fighting hadn't reached remote Andersonville, Georgia, where the prison camp, Fort Sumter, had been built. On one particularly hot July evening that year, a Confederate guard from the 26th Alabama regiment stood watch on the parapet of the stockade prison, which was more commonly referred to as Andersonville Prison by the locals, and as "hell" by the Union soldiers and sailors incarcerated there.

The prison was nothing more than acres of open ground surrounded by a stockade fence and earthworks barricades. The destitute prisoners sheltered themselves as best they could, some with makeshift tents, others in shallow holes dug in the dirt, lined with pine needles, and covered with whatever scrap of fabric the men had—a tarp, a blanket, maybe a tattered coat. The prison was so crowded that each man had just enough room to lie down.

As dusk gave way to night, the guard looked out on thousands of prone, wretched bodies—some of them nearly skeletons from dysentery and malnourishment—and he thought of Andersonville as a massive graveyard where the corpses were still breathing and graves were yet to be covered.

Civil war is a bad example, the North did the same exact thing.

Remember 'Hellmira'

Elmira Prison - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[jgbkab]

What did George Bush do to make the Taliban march into Pakistan this year? What did George Bush do to make NK detonate a nuke and fire off a handful of missiles this year?

You punks want to make us think you are better than the last administration, but when you don't get your way, you blame them anyway?

You are very ignorant...the taliban marching into Pakistan this year...North Korea all of a sudden firing missiles...I didn't blame anyone. You are the one blaming, labeling, calling names, and being dishonest.

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

What do you want, babe? Want me to tell you that George Bush set the table for Obama's problems with the Taliban, NK, and Iran?

You can live in that world if you want to.

It's happening on Barack Obama's watch. All the bad boys know they can do what they want and he won't do anything.

 

[jgbkab]

What do you want, babe?

Nothing. Carry on.

 

[Fraulein Hilda]

In two years, four years, you will still be pointing a finger at George Bush. It's all you got.

I'm outta this one.

Ciao, baby.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Much of military training is about testing you and toughening you up. They used to use gas many years ago in a similar fashion. You have no idea how many men break down under stress. Today suicide seems extremely bad but I think it is for another reason today. Separation from family and the burdens of overseas duty I would think. You've never seen a sadden man than one who got a Dear John.

By the way DUMB ASS, they still CS gas everyone, in a chamber during boot camp and when ever they go to certain schools.

 

[Ravi]

Do they or do they not teach military personnel how to withstand torture? or to withold information under torture??

If torture doesn't work why do they teach this if they do?????

Some personnel are taught some techniques. By the way? That includes the supposed torture of water boarding. That is right, Our Government has declared it Torture but they practice it on American service members.

I got that part.. but if torture does not work why do they have to teach people how to withstand it?? doyathink?? why waste the time and money???

Willow, I didn't realize you were retarded. I'll do my best to keep that in mind when responding to you in the future.

 

[WillowTree]

Well, I am so happy to see all the people on this board who are so in love with using torture. I am sure that you are so proud of yourselves and your "toughness".

Of course, the fact that it is against our traditions and laws make little differance to you, right?

Why don't you just put on the swastika armbands and openly display your ideological preferances.

You are cowards, men and women without honor. George Washington established our morals on this subject, and people like yourselves, are not going to change those morals.

Your defense of this horror is the very reason that Bush and Cheney should be standing before the Hague right now. Reason that President Obama should release all of the torture photos so that the nation can see what was actually done in our name.

Get over yourself dumbass, no one started calling you any names,, I asked a question because I wanted to know.. no go stick your head back up your ass cause as usual you got nothing.

 

[WillowTree]

The reason is protection of our soldiers. The photos would create horror worldwide. And that alone is enough justification for releasing them. Just as you people are defending torture, the release of the photos would demonstrate just how far this kind of thing goes once it is allowed to start.

What we do to others in other nations, we will do to our own people if those actions are not censored. Remember Andersonville. It has happened here.



Andersonville Prison - Crime Library on truTV.com
A Baby Born in Hell


The condition of
inmates at
Andersonville
(Library of
Congress)In 1864 the Civil War was raging through parts of the South, but actual fighting hadn't reached remote Andersonville, Georgia, where the prison camp, Fort Sumter, had been built. On one particularly hot July evening that year, a Confederate guard from the 26th Alabama regiment stood watch on the parapet of the stockade prison, which was more commonly referred to as Andersonville Prison by the locals, and as "hell" by the Union soldiers and sailors incarcerated there.

The prison was nothing more than acres of open ground surrounded by a stockade fence and earthworks barricades. The destitute prisoners sheltered themselves as best they could, some with makeshift tents, others in shallow holes dug in the dirt, lined with pine needles, and covered with whatever scrap of fabric the men had—a tarp, a blanket, maybe a tattered coat. The prison was so crowded that each man had just enough room to lie down.

As dusk gave way to night, the guard looked out on thousands of prone, wretched bodies—some of them nearly skeletons from dysentery and malnourishment—and he thought of Andersonville as a massive graveyard where the corpses were still breathing and graves were yet to be covered.

so,, I was right,, you don't give a shit about the repercussions to the innocent soldiers now serving, you want them realeased to create horror worldwide.. you anti American twit.

 

[WillowTree]

Some personnel are taught some techniques. By the way? That includes the supposed torture of water boarding. That is right, Our Government has declared it Torture but they practice it on American service members.

I got that part.. but if torture does not work why do they have to teach people how to withstand it?? doyathink?? why waste the time and money???

Willow, I didn't realize you were retarded. I'll do my best to keep that in mind when responding to you in the future.

or not!

 

[WillowTree]

Because you have to prepare them for what really happens. Because the piss ant in office doesn't want it doesnt mean it doesn't happen.

The prior incompetant and criminal idiot in office lied us into a war, and committed other war crimes. The fact that you dislike President Obama is based on what his presidency is going to make that of Bush's look like.

but does your sorry ass have an answer to the original question??

 

[WillowTree]

The prior incompetant and criminal idiot in office lied us into a war, and committed other war crimes. The fact that you dislike President Obama is based on what his presidency is going to make that of Bush's look like.

No. I think the little bastard will make the US less safe in the world.

Since he took office, every nuclear wannabe has been ramping up their development. The Taliban is pushing back in Afghanistan and marching all over Pakistan.

What other explanation could there be except that there is a weak US President who won't do a damn thing to them militarily?

So what did the previous prez do? You think it's the first time N. Korea tested weapons? The taliban just invaded Pakistan? Iran just became a threat? Since he took office...how can you be so dishonest?

the key words was every and ramped up case you missed it.

 

[WillowTree]

Can you answer the questions?

I don't feel safer. Barack Obama is a weak President. An appeaser. He faults the US for the problems in the world first.

So you wanna dodge the qeustions. Duly noted.

speaking of dodging questions,, what is your answer to the original question doyathink???

 

[editec]

Do they or do they not teach military personnel how to withstand torture? or to withold information under torture??

If torture doesn't work why do they teach this if they do?????

Some personnel are taught some techniques. By the way? That includes the supposed torture of water boarding. That is right, Our Government has declared it Torture but they practice it on American service members.

Did you have that training?

Were you waterboarded?

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Do they or do they not teach military personnel how to withstand torture? or to withold information under torture??

Yep... Practice, practice, practice... And you can bet that with all this hysteria which released US techniques, that the enemy is now training THEIR people how to do the same... with specifics which have been made widely available, wherein the duration and cycles are stated, which tells the would-be informant the levels of such which they can expect, thus train themselves to sustain their 'information integrity'.

Which in the end will result in greater levels of such to be needed... and once again the 'unintended consequences' of leftist policy comes to operate in diametric opposition to their stated goals... which of course maintains a 100% efficacy to this point with no change in sight.

If torture doesn't work why do they teach this if they do?????

If torture doesn't work... why does it exist?

People are by nature followers and wil seek the path of least resistance nearly without exception. Thus inducing stress simply provides a discernible path for those subjected to such to follow towards that end. It works every time that its tried... where the individual believes that there is no alternative.

What the left has done is to simply lead the enemy to believe that there is an ALTERNATIVE and that is to simply wait it out, endure the stress for the limited period that the Americans are 'allowed' to induce it...

Now SOME believe that this is treason... and of course, I'm one of them...

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Did you have that training?

Were you waterboarded?

Yes and yes... and not only 'was I waterboarded'; I waterboarded... MANY TIMES.

And yes... 'waterboardING' is preferable to 'being waterboarded'... and by no small margin.

 

[garyd]

Old Rocks what lies did Bush tell and remember for it to be a lie he most have been aware that it was a lie when he stated it.

 

[jgbkab]

I don't feel safer. Barack Obama is a weak President. An appeaser. He faults the US for the problems in the world first.

So you wanna dodge the qeustions. Duly noted.

speaking of dodging questions,, what is your answer to the original question doyathink???

No Willow, I was not taught how to withstand torture. I was taught what to say if captured by the enemy in combat. I'm assuming that the military teaches torture techniques to military personnel who have a higher risk of being captured.

 

[jgbkab]

No. I think the little bastard will make the US less safe in the world.

Since he took office, every nuclear wannabe has been ramping up their development. The Taliban is pushing back in Afghanistan and marching all over Pakistan.

What other explanation could there be except that there is a weak US President who won't do a damn thing to them militarily?

So what did the previous prez do? You think it's the first time N. Korea tested weapons? The taliban just invaded Pakistan? Iran just became a threat? Since he took office...how can you be so dishonest?

the key words was every and ramped up case you missed it.

The key word was quote.