Can Reps modify abortion stance?

[thanatos144]

Baby killing is baby killing no mater how you name it.

 

[HUGGY]

Baby killing is baby killing no mater how you name it.

Depends on how ya field dress em..

 

[Gadawg73]

It doesn't matter anymore. Just looking at the second post you get the picture. They only listen to information that feeds their fire. Right up till the day of the election many of them believed that Mittens would win in a landslide. They are so wrong on every issue that concerns women that abortion isn't even that big of a deal outside of their bubble.

We believed Obama would win.
Americans vote themselves a paycheck these days first and foremost.
Obama hands out the most candy.
Nothing else matters.

Only a handfull of the least crazy RWers though Obama would win. Your perception that Obama won because of freebies is just stupid. Obama won for a lot of reasons. Latinos wanted some respect...is THAT a freebie? Women don't believe that there are "degrees" of rape...Is THAT a freebie? Most Americans realize that the destruction of the middle class is tied to the war on unions... You think THAT is a freebie issue? The truth is that if anyone is of a mind that a president can or would give them something free to get them to vote...they are so stupid that they would never get off their asses to vote anyway....not even for a free cell phone.. I've got two cell phones that cost 12 bucks each and they work just fine. You guys have some stupid ideas what motivates other people.

Who does not want respect?
Unions defeated themselves. All we do is let them keep the shovel that they buried themselves with. I am middle class. Who destroyed me?
Free health care, Section 8-free housing, extended unemployment are just a few of the things that motivate the moochers. They do not want to give it up.
In many areas of Philadelphia 100% of the precinct voted for Obama.
And you claim free shit was not their #1 motivation.
Stupid idea comes to mind on that one Huggy.

 

[thanatos144]

Baby killing is baby killing no mater how you name it.

Depends on how ya field dress em..

Your proof abortion doesn't make life better.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The far right simply deludes itself on many positions, believing they are mainstream, which they are not.

 

[CrotchetyGeezer]

It doesn't matter anymore. Just looking at the second post you get the picture. They only listen to information that feeds their fire. Right up till the day of the election many of them believed that Mittens would win in a landslide. They are so wrong on every issue that concerns women that abortion isn't even that big of a deal outside of their bubble.

We believed Obama would win.
Americans vote themselves a paycheck these days first and foremost.
Obama hands out the most candy.
Nothing else matters.

Only a handfull of the least crazy RWers though Obama would win. Your perception that Obama won because of freebies is just stupid. Obama won for a lot of reasons. Latinos wanted some respect...is THAT a freebie? Women don't believe that there are "degrees" of rape...Is THAT a freebie? Most Americans realize that the destruction of the middle class is tied to the war on unions... You think THAT is a freebie issue? The truth is that if anyone is of a mind that a president can or would give them something free to get them to vote...they are so stupid that they would never get off their asses to vote anyway....not even for a free cell phone.. I've got two cell phones that cost 12 bucks each and they work just fine. You guys have some stupid ideas what motivates other people.

Sure he won because of freebies. Latinos wanted amnesty. Women wanted free mammograms, wellness tests for themselves and their children, free birth control, etc., and young folks wanted college debt forgiveness. Obama promised these things, he got elected. Coincidence? Nah...not really.

 

[Noomi]

This fetus is no different the millions killed in the name of "choice" except instead of being killed he was operated on to correct a defect while he still resided in his mother's womb.

AMAZING: A picture began circulating in November 2002. It should be "The Picture of the Year," or perhaps, "Picture of the Decade." It won't be. In fact, unless you obtained a copy of the U.S. paper which published it, you probably would never have seen it.

The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby named Samuel Alexander Armas, who is being operated on by surgeon named Joseph Bruner. The baby was diagnosed with spina bifida and would not survive if removed from his mother's womb. Little Samuel's mother, Julie Armas, is an obstetrics nurse in Atlanta. She knew of Dr. Bruner's remarkable surgical procedure. Practicing at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, he performs these special operations while the baby is still in the womb.

During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and makes a small incision to operate on the baby. As Dr. Bruner completed the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's finger. Dr. Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.

The photograph captures this amazing event with perfect clarity. The editors titled the picture, "Hand of Hope." The text explaining the picture begins, "The tiny hand of 21-week-old fetus Samuel Alexander Armas emerges from the mother's uterus to grasp the finger of Dr. Joseph Bruner as if thanking the doctor for the gift of life."

Little Samuel's mother said they "wept for days" when they saw the picture. She said, "The photo reminds us pregnancy isn't about disability or an illness, it's about a little person" Samuel was born in perfect health, the operation 100 percent successful. Now see the actual picture, and it is awesome...incredible....and hey, pass it on! The world needs to see this one!

Here he is 10 years later

Ten Years Later, Boy's 'Hand of Hope' Continues to Spark Debate | Fox News

Lol. Propaganda. The fetus didn't reach out at all, it was asleep. Youve been duped by the lifers.

snopes.com: Fetal Surgery Photo

 

[CrotchetyGeezer]

This fetus is no different the millions killed in the name of "choice" except instead of being killed he was operated on to correct a defect while he still resided in his mother's womb.

AMAZING: A picture began circulating in November 2002. It should be "The Picture of the Year," or perhaps, "Picture of the Decade." It won't be. In fact, unless you obtained a copy of the U.S. paper which published it, you probably would never have seen it.

The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby named Samuel Alexander Armas, who is being operated on by surgeon named Joseph Bruner. The baby was diagnosed with spina bifida and would not survive if removed from his mother's womb. Little Samuel's mother, Julie Armas, is an obstetrics nurse in Atlanta. She knew of Dr. Bruner's remarkable surgical procedure. Practicing at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, he performs these special operations while the baby is still in the womb.

During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and makes a small incision to operate on the baby. As Dr. Bruner completed the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's finger. Dr. Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.

The photograph captures this amazing event with perfect clarity. The editors titled the picture, "Hand of Hope." The text explaining the picture begins, "The tiny hand of 21-week-old fetus Samuel Alexander Armas emerges from the mother's uterus to grasp the finger of Dr. Joseph Bruner as if thanking the doctor for the gift of life."

Little Samuel's mother said they "wept for days" when they saw the picture. She said, "The photo reminds us pregnancy isn't about disability or an illness, it's about a little person" Samuel was born in perfect health, the operation 100 percent successful. Now see the actual picture, and it is awesome...incredible....and hey, pass it on! The world needs to see this one!

Here he is 10 years later

Ten Years Later, Boy's 'Hand of Hope' Continues to Spark Debate | Fox News

Lol. Propaganda. The fetus didn't reach out at all, it was asleep. Youve been duped by the lifers.

snopes.com: Fetal Surgery Photo

You mean, something not alive, was asleep? Is that possible?

 

[Noomi]

The claim is that it was awake, it was not.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The claim is that it was awake, it was not.

Hey, psycho bitch. I always thought they spoke English, or some bastardized form of it, anyway, where you are. In English, we refer to living human beings - all mammals, really - as either "he" or "she", particularly when we know the sex of the mammal in question. And, of course, this child's sex was readily apparent, whatever hairs you want to split about "awake" or "asleep" to soothe your latent serial killer.

Not that I expect you to be especially articulate, but even you should know better.

 

[clevergirl]

This fetus is no different the millions killed in the name of "choice" except instead of being killed he was operated on to correct a defect while he still resided in his mother's womb.

AMAZING: A picture began circulating in November 2002. It should be "The Picture of the Year," or perhaps, "Picture of the Decade." It won't be. In fact, unless you obtained a copy of the U.S. paper which published it, you probably would never have seen it.

The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby named Samuel Alexander Armas, who is being operated on by surgeon named Joseph Bruner. The baby was diagnosed with spina bifida and would not survive if removed from his mother's womb. Little Samuel's mother, Julie Armas, is an obstetrics nurse in Atlanta. She knew of Dr. Bruner's remarkable surgical procedure. Practicing at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, he performs these special operations while the baby is still in the womb.

During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and makes a small incision to operate on the baby. As Dr. Bruner completed the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's finger. Dr. Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.

The photograph captures this amazing event with perfect clarity. The editors titled the picture, "Hand of Hope." The text explaining the picture begins, "The tiny hand of 21-week-old fetus Samuel Alexander Armas emerges from the mother's uterus to grasp the finger of Dr. Joseph Bruner as if thanking the doctor for the gift of life."

Little Samuel's mother said they "wept for days" when they saw the picture. She said, "The photo reminds us pregnancy isn't about disability or an illness, it's about a little person" Samuel was born in perfect health, the operation 100 percent successful. Now see the actual picture, and it is awesome...incredible....and hey, pass it on! The world needs to see this one!

Here he is 10 years later

Ten Years Later, Boy's 'Hand of Hope' Continues to Spark Debate | Fox News

Lol. Propaganda. The fetus didn't reach out at all, it was asleep. Youve been duped by the lifers.

snopes.com: Fetal Surgery Photo

WTF point do you really think you are making? That the doctor made sure the fetus (aka pre term infant) was anesthetized so it could not feel pain? Like DUH! However the actual doctor doing the surgery attests that even though his tiny little patient (patient mind you) was being operated on he still grasped the Dr.'s finger you blathering idiot!

Do obvious points always miss the mark with you?

 

[thanatos144]

Yes progressives a baby is killed in every abortion.

 

[clevergirl]

This fetus is no different the millions killed in the name of "choice" except instead of being killed he was operated on to correct a defect while he still resided in his mother's womb.

AMAZING: A picture began circulating in November 2002. It should be "The Picture of the Year," or perhaps, "Picture of the Decade." It won't be. In fact, unless you obtained a copy of the U.S. paper which published it, you probably would never have seen it.

The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby named Samuel Alexander Armas, who is being operated on by surgeon named Joseph Bruner. The baby was diagnosed with spina bifida and would not survive if removed from his mother's womb. Little Samuel's mother, Julie Armas, is an obstetrics nurse in Atlanta. She knew of Dr. Bruner's remarkable surgical procedure. Practicing at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, he performs these special operations while the baby is still in the womb.

During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and makes a small incision to operate on the baby. As Dr. Bruner completed the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's finger. Dr. Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.

The photograph captures this amazing event with perfect clarity. The editors titled the picture, "Hand of Hope." The text explaining the picture begins, "The tiny hand of 21-week-old fetus Samuel Alexander Armas emerges from the mother's uterus to grasp the finger of Dr. Joseph Bruner as if thanking the doctor for the gift of life."

Little Samuel's mother said they "wept for days" when they saw the picture. She said, "The photo reminds us pregnancy isn't about disability or an illness, it's about a little person" Samuel was born in perfect health, the operation 100 percent successful. Now see the actual picture, and it is awesome...incredible....and hey, pass it on! The world needs to see this one!

Here he is 10 years later

Ten Years Later, Boy's 'Hand of Hope' Continues to Spark Debate | Fox News

Most abortions happen before 10 weeks, so your picture is pointless.

Besides the fact, as KG pointed out in another thread, it really doesn't matter what the fetus looks like. Are you less pro-life when it looks like a kidney bean?

~Another pro baby killer illuminates the argument with their ignorance~


No matter what stage a baby is killed in the womb, it is a living human being. The moment it attaches to the uterine wall it becomes viable so long as no one or no outside force, kills it. THAT is the point. The photograph illustrates the humanity that people like you deny in order to justify killing unborn babies.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The law determines abortions, not individual opinion.

By law the fetus is a . . . fetus.

The hatred here demonstrates the need for change on the abortion plank in the GOP party platform.

 

[clevergirl]

The law determines abortions, not individual opinion.

By law the fetus is a . . . fetus.

The hatred here demonstrates the need for change on the abortion plank in the GOP party platform.

Bullshit! The law determines the criminality of abortion-period!

There should be no moderation over whether or not a human being deserves Constitutional protection. Science has proven the humanity of fetal life as being completely intact and 100% human life.

At one time in this nation a slave was considered property and the law supported that. Laws are mere reflections of a nation's morality.

 

[AmyNation]

This fetus is no different the millions killed in the name of "choice" except instead of being killed he was operated on to correct a defect while he still resided in his mother's womb.

AMAZING: A picture began circulating in November 2002. It should be "The Picture of the Year," or perhaps, "Picture of the Decade." It won't be. In fact, unless you obtained a copy of the U.S. paper which published it, you probably would never have seen it.

The picture is that of a 21-week-old unborn baby named Samuel Alexander Armas, who is being operated on by surgeon named Joseph Bruner. The baby was diagnosed with spina bifida and would not survive if removed from his mother's womb. Little Samuel's mother, Julie Armas, is an obstetrics nurse in Atlanta. She knew of Dr. Bruner's remarkable surgical procedure. Practicing at Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Nashville, he performs these special operations while the baby is still in the womb.

During the procedure, the doctor removes the uterus via C-section and makes a small incision to operate on the baby. As Dr. Bruner completed the surgery on Samuel, the little guy reached his tiny, but fully developed hand through the incision and firmly grasped the surgeon's finger. Dr. Bruner was reported as saying that when his finger was grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life, and that for an instant during the procedure he was just frozen, totally immobile.

The photograph captures this amazing event with perfect clarity. The editors titled the picture, "Hand of Hope." The text explaining the picture begins, "The tiny hand of 21-week-old fetus Samuel Alexander Armas emerges from the mother's uterus to grasp the finger of Dr. Joseph Bruner as if thanking the doctor for the gift of life."

Little Samuel's mother said they "wept for days" when they saw the picture. She said, "The photo reminds us pregnancy isn't about disability or an illness, it's about a little person" Samuel was born in perfect health, the operation 100 percent successful. Now see the actual picture, and it is awesome...incredible....and hey, pass it on! The world needs to see this one!

Here he is 10 years later

Ten Years Later, Boy's 'Hand of Hope' Continues to Spark Debate | Fox News

Most abortions happen before 10 weeks, so your picture is pointless.

Besides the fact, as KG pointed out in another thread, it really doesn't matter what the fetus looks like. Are you less pro-life when it looks like a kidney bean?

~Another pro baby killer illuminates the argument with their ignorance~


No matter what stage a baby is killed in the womb, it is a living human being. The moment it attaches to the uterine wall it becomes viable so long as no one or no outside force, kills it. THAT is the point. The photograph illustrates the humanity that people like you deny in order to justify killing unborn babies.

Your photo is nothing but an attempt at emotional blackmail. Women who have abortions at 21 weeks( which btw is illegal in many states) are desperate, often choosing abortion when it's clear the fetus is severaly deformed.

Also, I never claimed it wasn't alive, merely that it isn't a person.

 

[koshergrl]

I'll bet the loons tried to get his picture yanked, too.

 

[koshergrl]

So...in this case, he looked like a person then, he is a person now, he has had all the genetic material since loooooonnnnngggg before birth...

But apparently he wasn't a person in the first picture.

Nothing crazy about that.

 

[koshergrl]

There's something magical about how baby killers can declare a baby a non-person, and magically, if they say that, it's not a person.

But if they declare it IS a person..then it is.

Is that about the long and short of it? If you kill it, it's not a person. If you don't kill it, it is.

 

[thanatos144]

I guess progressives are just trying to save on reeducation camps when their communist utopia comes to be.