Can Atheists be Moral?

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Most people have an intrinsic sense of right and wrong. They don't need myths and lore to codify that sense.

 

[ding]

Despite what some believe morals are not subjective. Morals are objective.

No one group has a lock on objectivity.

No one said they had.

I bet some people think that’s the case.

 

[ding]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Most people have an intrinsic sense of right and wrong. They don't need myths and lore to codify that sense.

They aren’t myths. You need to see them as myths to validate your beliefs.

 

[Mindful]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Most people have an intrinsic sense of right and wrong. They don't need myths and lore to codify that sense.

I wonder where that came from. It seems to be a default setting in most cases.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Most people have an intrinsic sense of right and wrong. They don't need myths and lore to codify that sense.

I wonder where that came from. It seems to be a default setting in most cases.

If someone comes up and punches you in the face for no reason how are you going to feel about it?

That's where it comes from.

 

[BreezeWood]

Its not only Catholics who molest children, just as many Protestants do as well.

Child molesters recognize no boundaries. They can be found in places of faith--and places of no faith; in wealthy places, in poverty; among the most learned, among the ignorant; in our families, outside our families; in our homes, in our neighbor's homes; in our public schools, in our private schools; in places of trust, in places where no trust exists; in our news media that directs reports of such away from themselves or those they decide to protect from allegations.

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Catholic Priests Abused 1,000 Children in Pennsylvania, Report Says

Bishops and other leaders of the Roman Catholic Church in Pennsylvania covered up child sexual abuse by more than 300 priests over a period of 70 years ...

covered up child sexual abuse ...

Child molesters recognize no boundaries.

neither did the rcc have any boundary's to protect themselves from the publicity without concern for the crime that without doubt was a part of that church from its earliest beginning - nor are 300 priests and the congregations that supported them some sort of aberration found in a single state.

deny reality as you please, the root of that evil is within the confines of the broad and rampant patronage found in all three of the desert religions histories and scriptural writings.

those unwilling to correct the forgeries and fallacies written in their religious documents are themselves as guilty of the crimes committed as the perpetrators and their deniers.

 

[Mindful]

Many theists believe it is clear-cut. Humans can only have opinions about morality, and no one’s opinion is any more valid than anyone else’s. This leads them to the conclusion that an objective source of morality must stand apart from, and above, humans. That source, they say, is God. Since atheists, reject God, atheists can have no basis for morality.

This is really two separate arguments: (1) that God is the source of objective morality and humans can learn morality from God and (2) that humans on their own have no way to know what is moral and what is not.

Can atheists be moral? - Atheist Alliance International

Most people have an intrinsic sense of right and wrong. They don't need myths and lore to codify that sense.

I wonder where that came from. It seems to be a default setting in most cases.

If someone comes up and punches you in the face for no reason how are you going to feel about it?

That's where it comes from.

Maybe the puncher in the face thought he had a reason.

Maybe I should try and see it from his/her point of view.

 

[Toro]

Yes.

Next question.

 

[ding]

Yes.

Next question.

Are you a moral person?

 

[Mindful]

Yes.

Next question.

Is it boring in the FZ?

 

[Mindful]

Yes.

Next question.

Are you a moral person?

He plays safe. So one never knows.

 

[ding]

Yes.

Next question.

Are you a moral person?

He plays safe. So one never knows.

It’s actually a really tough question.

He probably doesn’t know how to answer it.

 

[ding]

Yes.

Next question.

Is it boring in the FZ?

Yes.

 

[Mindful]

Dictionary definition, Ding:

Morals are the principles we follow that help us know the difference between right and wrong. When someone is immoral, they make decisions that purposely violate a moralagreement. Immoral is sometimes confused with amoral, which describes someone who has no morals and doesn't know what right or wrong means.

 

[ding]

Dictionary definition, Ding:

Morals are the principles we follow that help us know the difference between right and wrong. When someone is immoral, they make decisions that purposely violate a moralagreement. Immoral is sometimes confused with amoral, which describes someone who has no morals and doesn't know what right or wrong means.

Yes. Morals are effectively standards.

 

[Mindful]

Then there are ethics.

 

[ding]

Then there are ethics.

Same difference. Ethics are effectively a standard.

 

[Mindful]

Can you imagine being confronted with the moral dilemma of this:

Plane crash survivor describes the moment he resorted to cannibalism

Morally it's wrong. But if it's life or death?

 

[Likkmee]

Sure. Even the Wiccan creed is " do as ye will and harm none"

 

[anynameyouwish]

Can you imagine being confronted with the moral dilemma of this:

Plane crash survivor describes the moment he resorted to cannibalism

Morally it's wrong. But if it's life or death?

As a guy who won't eat food that touched the floor (even if for less than 3 seconds!) I can assure you that I would NOT EVER go cannibal.