California v Amazon

[Soggy in NOLA]

the tax money the folks in South Carolina pay will one day bail CA out for their stupidity.

Seriously?

And this has what to do with anything?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

With any luck at all, CA will be totally overrun by Mexicans and ceded back to Mexico.

Fuck CA... bunch of whiney, no good slacker fucks.

 

[Robert]

You guys saw this, right? This snippet is from Yahoo.com, wonder how many jobs will be lost.


.....California Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill into law Wednesday requiring online businesses to pay state sales tax, calling it “a common sense idea,” but Amazon and other large online retailers said they no longer see the business sense in staying in the Golden State.

Amazon and Overstock.com both announced shortly after the bill was signed that they will be closing all of their affiliate programs in California. Affiliates are small websites and businesses that sell products through sites like Amazon and receive a small commission.

The new law requires large online retailers to collect and file state sales tax on purchases made by California customers. California hopes to raise an estimated $317 million a year in new state and local government revenue through the added sales tax collections.

The State Board of Equalization has estimated there are 25,000 affiliates in California, 10,000 of which make money through an affiliation with Amazon.

Not anymore, though.

“We oppose this bill because it is unconstitutional and counterproductive,” Amazon said in an email to its affiliates. “It is supported by big-box retailers, most of which are based outside California, that seek to harm the affiliate advertising programs of their competitors.”

Overstock.com, a large Utah-based online retailer, sent a similar email to its California affiliates.

“We think this law is unconstitutional,” said Mark Griffin, Overstock’s general counsel, in an interview with the San Jose Mercury News. “We sent a final note to our California affiliates today. It’s a business decision that we had to make.”

BUT WAIT....Taxes are the greatest job creating thing in the WHOLE WIDE WORLDZ!!?!! did you get the talking points?

 

[Wiseacre]

I especially like the part where because Amazon left California, all the "Conservatives" give it numerous amount of attention. Meanwhile, the same thing happens in Texas with nary a peep.

Wonder why that is?

YouTube - ‪Jeopardy! Think Music, 1960s 1984-1997‬‏

Amazon To Close Distribution Center In Texas After Tax Dispute - FoxBusiness.com

Wasn't quite the same thing. In Texas it was one warehouse with 119 employees instead of thousands of affiliates getting closed in CA. Saying the regulatory climate is bad in Texas merely means Amazon didn't get the tax break they wanted.

 

[bodecea]

I especially like the part where because Amazon left California, all the "Conservatives" give it numerous amount of attention. Meanwhile, the same thing happens in Texas with nary a peep.

Wonder why that is?

YouTube - ‪Jeopardy! Think Music, 1960s 1984-1997‬‏

Amazon To Close Distribution Center In Texas After Tax Dispute - FoxBusiness.com

Is Texas a separate country yet?

 

[WillowTree]

I especially like the part where because Amazon left California, all the "Conservatives" give it numerous amount of attention. Meanwhile, the same thing happens in Texas with nary a peep.

Wonder why that is?

YouTube - ‪Jeopardy! Think Music, 1960s 1984-1997‬‏

Amazon To Close Distribution Center In Texas After Tax Dispute - FoxBusiness.com

Well, maybe because,, no one until now has brought it to our attention Mr. MODMORON.

 

[WillowTree]

I especially like the part where because Amazon left California, all the "Conservatives" give it numerous amount of attention. Meanwhile, the same thing happens in Texas with nary a peep.

Wonder why that is?

YouTube - ‪Jeopardy! Think Music, 1960s 1984-1997‬‏

Amazon To Close Distribution Center In Texas After Tax Dispute - FoxBusiness.com

Is Texas a separate country yet?

I think successful and prosperous best describes them.. job creating, business friendly.. Kerry On.

 

[bodecea]

I especially like the part where because Amazon left California, all the "Conservatives" give it numerous amount of attention. Meanwhile, the same thing happens in Texas with nary a peep.

Wonder why that is?

YouTube - ‪Jeopardy! Think Music, 1960s 1984-1997‬‏

Amazon To Close Distribution Center In Texas After Tax Dispute - FoxBusiness.com

Is Texas a separate country yet?

I think successful and prosperous best describes them.. job creating, business friendly.. Kerry On.

They want to leave the U.S. I think they should go now...instead of whining.

 

[WillowTree]

Is Texas a separate country yet?

I think successful and prosperous best describes them.. job creating, business friendly.. Kerry On.

They want to leave the U.S. I think they should go now...instead of whining.

I have not heard this tale. Do tell.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I think the more apt question is: Could the US survive without Texas.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Wait til those Amazon people get a taste of SC living...

What's wrong with SC living?

fly over country?

Actually Charleston is a really nice city, friendly folks, good restarurants, some fine old homes and an interesting history. Of course drving there offers a much different landscape. My wife wanted to see Savannah, GA so two years ago we flew to Jacksonville, spent a few nights on the beach on Amelia Island and drove to Savannah (Also a very charming, clean city with nice homes and an interesting history).

Then we drove to Charleston. Two lane undivided highway with speed limits that changed in each (I guess) jurisdiction we entered. And signs stating "speeders will be arrested". A two hour drive from the main highway revealed shanty's, old rusty machinary, and strip malls right out of the 1940's. I recommend anyone intersted in seeing Charleston (and I recommend the tour to Fort Sumter) fly.

 

[WillowTree]

I thought the drive through the low country was just beautiful. I always enjoy it.

 

[uscitizen]

You guys saw this, right? This snippet is from Yahoo.com, wonder how many jobs will be lost.


.....California Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill into law Wednesday requiring online businesses to pay state sales tax, calling it “a common sense idea,” but Amazon and other large online retailers said they no longer see the business sense in staying in the Golden State.

Amazon and Overstock.com both announced shortly after the bill was signed that they will be closing all of their affiliate programs in California. Affiliates are small websites and businesses that sell products through sites like Amazon and receive a small commission.

The new law requires large online retailers to collect and file state sales tax on purchases made by California customers. California hopes to raise an estimated $317 million a year in new state and local government revenue through the added sales tax collections.

The State Board of Equalization has estimated there are 25,000 affiliates in California, 10,000 of which make money through an affiliation with Amazon.

Not anymore, though.

“We oppose this bill because it is unconstitutional and counterproductive,” Amazon said in an email to its affiliates. “It is supported by big-box retailers, most of which are based outside California, that seek to harm the affiliate advertising programs of their competitors.”

Overstock.com, a large Utah-based online retailer, sent a similar email to its California affiliates.

“We think this law is unconstitutional,” said Mark Griffin, Overstock’s general counsel, in an interview with the San Jose Mercury News. “We sent a final note to our California affiliates today. It’s a business decision that we had to make.”

If a company is selling thru an affiliate or subsidiary in a state then it should pay state sales tax.
Amazon seems to be cutting off it's nose to spite it's face.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

What's wrong with SC living?

fly over country?

Actually Charleston is a really nice city, friendly folks, good restarurants, some fine old homes and an interesting history. Of course drving there offers a much different landscape. My wife wanted to see Savannah, GA so two years ago we flew to Jacksonville, spent a few nights on the beach on Amelia Island and drove to Savannah (Also a very charming, clean city with nice homes and an interesting history).

Then we drove to Charleston. Two lane undivided highway with speed limits that changed in each (I guess) jurisdiction we entered. And signs stating "speeders will be arrested". A two hour drive from the main highway revealed shanty's, old rusty machinary, and strip malls right out of the 1940's. I recommend anyone intersted in seeing Charleston (and I recommend the tour to Fort Sumter) fly.

Did y'all eat at the butter queens restaurant in Savannah?

 

[Intense]

What's wrong with SC living?

fly over country?

Actually Charleston is a really nice city, friendly folks, good restarurants, some fine old homes and an interesting history. Of course drving there offers a much different landscape. My wife wanted to see Savannah, GA so two years ago we flew to Jacksonville, spent a few nights on the beach on Amelia Island and drove to Savannah (Also a very charming, clean city with nice homes and an interesting history).

Then we drove to Charleston. Two lane undivided highway with speed limits that changed in each (I guess) jurisdiction we entered. And signs stating "speeders will be arrested". A two hour drive from the main highway revealed shanty's, old rusty machinary, and strip malls right out of the 1940's. I recommend anyone intersted in seeing Charleston (and I recommend the tour to Fort Sumter) fly.

It is nice down there. Different breed of Cop than the California State Trooper though. Just remember to stay Polite.

 

[Trajan]

I especially like the part where because Amazon left California, all the "Conservatives" give it numerous amount of attention. Meanwhile, the same thing happens in Texas with nary a peep.

Wonder why that is?

YouTube - ‪Jeopardy! Think Music, 1960s 1984-1997‬‏

Amazon To Close Distribution Center In Texas After Tax Dispute - FoxBusiness.com

instead of assuming we know, you could have asked, I wasn't aware they had closed a Distribution center in Dallas.

first the link says this was a distribution center, a brick and mortor owned amazon structure, IF I am correct the affiliates in cali and illinois were/are different...as it is stipulated in the articles I posted and the supreme court decision. .I'll have to check.

IF there is on difference, then I actually agree with Cali.....

Iif they, Amazon, maintain a business presence that requires services ala a wal mart store, etc. ala fire dept. policing they pay property taxes on property they hold, then they should pay taxes on that sales.

 

[Wiseacre]

You guys saw this, right? This snippet is from Yahoo.com, wonder how many jobs will be lost.


.....California Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill into law Wednesday requiring online businesses to pay state sales tax, calling it “a common sense idea,” but Amazon and other large online retailers said they no longer see the business sense in staying in the Golden State.

Amazon and Overstock.com both announced shortly after the bill was signed that they will be closing all of their affiliate programs in California. Affiliates are small websites and businesses that sell products through sites like Amazon and receive a small commission.

The new law requires large online retailers to collect and file state sales tax on purchases made by California customers. California hopes to raise an estimated $317 million a year in new state and local government revenue through the added sales tax collections.

The State Board of Equalization has estimated there are 25,000 affiliates in California, 10,000 of which make money through an affiliation with Amazon.

Not anymore, though.

“We oppose this bill because it is unconstitutional and counterproductive,” Amazon said in an email to its affiliates. “It is supported by big-box retailers, most of which are based outside California, that seek to harm the affiliate advertising programs of their competitors.”

Overstock.com, a large Utah-based online retailer, sent a similar email to its California affiliates.

“We think this law is unconstitutional,” said Mark Griffin, Overstock’s general counsel, in an interview with the San Jose Mercury News. “We sent a final note to our California affiliates today. It’s a business decision that we had to make.”

If a company is selling thru an affiliate or subsidiary in a state then it should pay state sales tax.
Amazon seems to be cutting off it's nose to spite it's face.

I don't think so, these guys are far more interested in the bottom line than in politics. They added up the costs to move vs the costs to stay and moving won out. I'm sure whatever sweetheart deal they got from SC played a part in the decision.

 

[Wry Catcher]

fly over country?

Actually Charleston is a really nice city, friendly folks, good restarurants, some fine old homes and an interesting history. Of course drving there offers a much different landscape. My wife wanted to see Savannah, GA so two years ago we flew to Jacksonville, spent a few nights on the beach on Amelia Island and drove to Savannah (Also a very charming, clean city with nice homes and an interesting history).

Then we drove to Charleston. Two lane undivided highway with speed limits that changed in each (I guess) jurisdiction we entered. And signs stating "speeders will be arrested". A two hour drive from the main highway revealed shanty's, old rusty machinary, and strip malls right out of the 1940's. I recommend anyone intersted in seeing Charleston (and I recommend the tour to Fort Sumter) fly.

Did y'all eat at the butter queens restaurant in Savannah?

The only place I reacall was L. dragged me to Paul Deen's for Sunday buffet. We waited a while to get in and in my opinon it was not worth the wait or the cost. We ate dinner one evening on the waterfront, food was good, people watching great as well the view of the river. Also, the tour of the city and the wonderful old homes, stately trees and clean streets and parks. Of course we were there at the end of March so the weather was great.

 

[Trajan]

You guys saw this, right? This snippet is from Yahoo.com, wonder how many jobs will be lost.


.....California Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill into law Wednesday requiring online businesses to pay state sales tax, calling it “a common sense idea,” but Amazon and other large online retailers said they no longer see the business sense in staying in the Golden State.

Amazon and Overstock.com both announced shortly after the bill was signed that they will be closing all of their affiliate programs in California. Affiliates are small websites and businesses that sell products through sites like Amazon and receive a small commission.

The new law requires large online retailers to collect and file state sales tax on purchases made by California customers. California hopes to raise an estimated $317 million a year in new state and local government revenue through the added sales tax collections.

The State Board of Equalization has estimated there are 25,000 affiliates in California, 10,000 of which make money through an affiliation with Amazon.

Not anymore, though.

“We oppose this bill because it is unconstitutional and counterproductive,” Amazon said in an email to its affiliates. “It is supported by big-box retailers, most of which are based outside California, that seek to harm the affiliate advertising programs of their competitors.”

Overstock.com, a large Utah-based online retailer, sent a similar email to its California affiliates.

“We think this law is unconstitutional,” said Mark Griffin, Overstock’s general counsel, in an interview with the San Jose Mercury News. “We sent a final note to our California affiliates today. It’s a business decision that we had to make.”

If a company is selling thru an affiliate or subsidiary in a state then it should pay state sales tax.
Amazon seems to be cutting off it's nose to spite it's face.

says who? you?

 

[uscitizen]

You guys saw this, right? This snippet is from Yahoo.com, wonder how many jobs will be lost.


.....California Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill into law Wednesday requiring online businesses to pay state sales tax, calling it “a common sense idea,” but Amazon and other large online retailers said they no longer see the business sense in staying in the Golden State.

Amazon and Overstock.com both announced shortly after the bill was signed that they will be closing all of their affiliate programs in California. Affiliates are small websites and businesses that sell products through sites like Amazon and receive a small commission.

The new law requires large online retailers to collect and file state sales tax on purchases made by California customers. California hopes to raise an estimated $317 million a year in new state and local government revenue through the added sales tax collections.

The State Board of Equalization has estimated there are 25,000 affiliates in California, 10,000 of which make money through an affiliation with Amazon.

Not anymore, though.

“We oppose this bill because it is unconstitutional and counterproductive,” Amazon said in an email to its affiliates. “It is supported by big-box retailers, most of which are based outside California, that seek to harm the affiliate advertising programs of their competitors.”

Overstock.com, a large Utah-based online retailer, sent a similar email to its California affiliates.

“We think this law is unconstitutional,” said Mark Griffin, Overstock’s general counsel, in an interview with the San Jose Mercury News. “We sent a final note to our California affiliates today. It’s a business decision that we had to make.”

If a company is selling thru an affiliate or subsidiary in a state then it should pay state sales tax.
Amazon seems to be cutting off it's nose to spite it's face.

I don't think so, these guys are far more interested in the bottom line than in politics. They added up the costs to move vs the costs to stay and moving won out. I'm sure whatever sweetheart deal they got from SC played a part in the decision.

I am sure that amazon and their customers will enjoy paying higher shipping charges.

In any case the consumption tax that some of the righties want will get them anyway.