Inthemiddle
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I always wonder why people in the immigration debate not only want to stop the illegals, but they'd be down with hurting them, too. I always find that a little disturbing.
You make it sound like people want would-be immigrants to be injured just for the heck of it. And that is a dishonest view to take because nobody suggests it. Wanting an armed presence to protect our borders does not mean we want illegals to get hurt or killed. We just want our border presence to be sufficient to severely deter anyone from trying in the first place. There is nothing unreasonable about that.
There's a much simpler way to stop illegal immigration. Instead of trying to stomp on all the ants, you clean up the sugar.
As long as there are jerkwads in this country who hire illegals because they don't want to pay a fair wage to an American, we are going to have illegals trying to find their way in.
It's true that people willing to hire illegal labor contribute to the problem. But there are plenty of illegals who come in and obtain fake papers with which they can appear to be just as legal as anyone else, and still get a job from honest Americans who are trying to follow the law. Not only that, but there are a wide range of reasons people illegally immigrate into the US. Some come with the intention of committing welfare fraud and abuse. Some come as members of Mexican organized crime, are funded by their respective gang or cartel, and come here specifically to do the organization's illegal bidding. This illegal bidding can range from being a drug runner to being a paid assassin.
Successful immigration enforcement will involve both securing the border and enforcing labor laws.
And we can build an electrified fence with guard posts every five feet and be unable to stop that.
It will sure stop more people from having an avenue to come into the country. So that when we deport their asses they can't come back again.
The smart policy would be to simply go after the employers. If you are caught hiring an illegal, you pay a huge fine and are subject to inspections.
Because that by itself has worked so well already. There's nothing smart about leaving the door open and not expecting the wildlife to come in.
And if you are caught doing it too many time, we take everything you own.
While I do agree that we need to have more firm workplace enforcement of those who hire illegals, I'm less concerned with punishing Americans over it than I am with punishing the illegal aliens.