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Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence
Pravda- NY Times Division ^ | 10/15/11 | Wyatt
Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence - NYTimes.com
Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally...
Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.
The remarks were among the most pointed yet by Mr. Cain about illegal immigration, and they come as he is enjoying a surge in national political polls on the back of his victory in a recent Florida straw poll..
It is not the first time that Mr. Cain has floated the idea of an electrified fence. He has told the story many times of a caller to his former radio show who chastised him for talking about building a border fence, saying that such an idea was impractical.
“It’s going to be 20 feet high. It’s going to have barbed wire on the top. It’s going to be electrified. And there’s going to be a sign on the other side saying, ‘It will kill you — Warning.’” At an earlier rally, on the campus of Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., he added that the sign would be written “in English and in Spanish.”
“This nation has always been a nation with wide open doors,” Mr. Cain said at the second rally. “We want to make it easy for people to come through the front door. And we’re going to shut off the back door so you don’t have to sneak into America.”
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Goddamnit, Cain just earned my respect and general election vote. Yes, if he keeps this up than I may even send some money in the general. Wow!!! I hope the fence has 100,000 volts too. Put signs every few feet warning of course, but this is a really good idea. Fuck you illegals.
I don't like his 999, but this is good stuff. I like his immigration policies.
The more I learn about Cain, the more I understand how much of an idiot this guy really is.
His regressive 9-9-9 tax plan is a joke
Let's just set the Army up along the border. Shoot to kill anyone who crosses.
In fact, shoot them before they cross. We can call it a preemptive action.
The more I learn about Cain, the more I understand how much of an idiot this guy really is.
Why does it make someone an idiot to support securing our borders?
Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence
Pravda- NY Times Division ^ | 10/15/11 | Wyatt
Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence - NYTimes.com
Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally...
Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.
The remarks were among the most pointed yet by Mr. Cain about illegal immigration, and they come as he is enjoying a surge in national political polls on the back of his victory in a recent Florida straw poll..
It is not the first time that Mr. Cain has floated the idea of an electrified fence. He has told the story many times of a caller to his former radio show who chastised him for talking about building a border fence, saying that such an idea was impractical.
“It’s going to be 20 feet high. It’s going to have barbed wire on the top. It’s going to be electrified. And there’s going to be a sign on the other side saying, ‘It will kill you — Warning.’” At an earlier rally, on the campus of Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., he added that the sign would be written “in English and in Spanish.”
“This nation has always been a nation with wide open doors,” Mr. Cain said at the second rally. “We want to make it easy for people to come through the front door. And we’re going to shut off the back door so you don’t have to sneak into America.”
(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...
Goddamnit, Cain just earned my respect and general election vote. Yes, if he keeps this up than I may even send some money in the general. Wow!!! I hope the fence has 100,000 volts too. Put signs every few feet warning of course, but this is a really good idea. Fuck you illegals.
I don't like his 999, but this is good stuff. I like his immigration policies.
An electrified border fence? That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. All that will happen is the Mexicans will figure out how to hook up to the power source electrifying the fence, and on both sides of the border they'll be cooking up tacos on electric grills powered by the U.S. taxpayer.
Great Cain. A National Sales tax for Americans and a free power source for Mexicans on the border.
BRILLIANT plan.
That is why he proposes we use troops with real bullets. When they try that than our troops can shot the mexican(s).
That is why he proposes we use troops with real bullets. When they try that than our troops can shot the mexican(s).
Why does he want to murder Mexicans across international borders, committing a crime in two sovereign jurisdictions? Sorry but I don't want our soldiers doing that, they didn't sign up to be murderers.
What an idiotic idea. Cain is pandering to the anti immigration right. That won't be very popular, especially among important Hispanic voters.
Where does he propose to get the electricity? Most of the border is miles from any civilization. That is part of the problem.
Geez, don't people think about this stuff first??
I don't like his 999, but this is good stuff. I like his immigration policies.
I don't like his 999, but this is good stuff. I like his immigration policies.
I always wonder why people in the immigration debate not only want to stop the illegals, but they'd be down with hurting them, too. I always find that a little disturbing.
There's a much simpler way to stop illegal immigration. Instead of trying to stomp on all the ants, you clean up the sugar.
As long as there are jerkwads in this country who hire illegals because they don't want to pay a fair wage to an American, we are going to have illegals trying to find their way in. And we can build an electrified fence with guard posts every five feet and be unable to stop that.
The smart policy would be to simply go after the employers. If you are caught hiring an illegal, you pay a huge fine and are subject to inspections. And if you are caught doing it too many time, we take everything you own.
I don't like his 999, but this is good stuff. I like his immigration policies.
I always wonder why people in the immigration debate not only want to stop the illegals, but they'd be down with hurting them, too. I always find that a little disturbing.
There's a much simpler way to stop illegal immigration. Instead of trying to stomp on all the ants, you clean up the sugar.
As long as there are jerkwads in this country who hire illegals because they don't want to pay a fair wage to an American, we are going to have illegals trying to find their way in. And we can build an electrified fence with guard posts every five feet and be unable to stop that.
The smart policy would be to simply go after the employers. If you are caught hiring an illegal, you pay a huge fine and are subject to inspections. And if you are caught doing it too many time, we take everything you own.
First off, we already have sanctions against employers. They dont work, for a variety of reasons.
Second, don't we say companies already have enough red tape to deal with? Why do we want to turn companies into policemen for the state?
Third, here's an even better idea: How about free movement of labor and capital? You know, a CONSERVATIVE idea. Issue temporary work visas with biometric data imprinted in it and allow people to work wherever they want and can find jobs.
NO shootings, no fences,no turning this country into North Korea. Just good competitive business that will benefit this country.
"Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence"He has my vote on that one....
I always wonder why people in the immigration debate not only want to stop the illegals, but they'd be down with hurting them, too. I always find that a little disturbing.
There's a much simpler way to stop illegal immigration. Instead of trying to stomp on all the ants, you clean up the sugar.
As long as there are jerkwads in this country who hire illegals because they don't want to pay a fair wage to an American, we are going to have illegals trying to find their way in. And we can build an electrified fence with guard posts every five feet and be unable to stop that.
The smart policy would be to simply go after the employers. If you are caught hiring an illegal, you pay a huge fine and are subject to inspections. And if you are caught doing it too many time, we take everything you own.
First off, we already have sanctions against employers. They dont work, for a variety of reasons.
Second, don't we say companies already have enough red tape to deal with? Why do we want to turn companies into policemen for the state?
Third, here's an even better idea: How about free movement of labor and capital? You know, a CONSERVATIVE idea. Issue temporary work visas with biometric data imprinted in it and allow people to work wherever they want and can find jobs.
NO shootings, no fences,no turning this country into North Korea. Just good competitive business that will benefit this country.
They don't work because they aren't enforced.
Yeah, I think we've seen enough "conservative" ideas on that point. I'm going out today to replace my POS monitor for my computer that some "free movement of capital" had made in a third world craphole...
I lived in a town that had a real prostutitution problem. They'd bust the hookers and they'd be back out on the street the next night. Then they got the brilliant ideas to go after the real perpertrators, the Johns. Printed their pictures and names in the local newspapers. After that, this town stopped being a place to pick up hookers.
Same thing with illegal immigration. Go after the employers. They know they are hiring illegals when they hire them.
In south Texas electric fences are powered by solar panels.And how will we pay for this fence?
How much electricity will it use?
First off, we already have sanctions against employers. They dont work, for a variety of reasons.
Second, don't we say companies already have enough red tape to deal with? Why do we want to turn companies into policemen for the state?
Third, here's an even better idea: How about free movement of labor and capital? You know, a CONSERVATIVE idea. Issue temporary work visas with biometric data imprinted in it and allow people to work wherever they want and can find jobs.
NO shootings, no fences,no turning this country into North Korea. Just good competitive business that will benefit this country.
They don't work because they aren't enforced.
Yeah, I think we've seen enough "conservative" ideas on that point. I'm going out today to replace my POS monitor for my computer that some "free movement of capital" had made in a third world craphole...
I lived in a town that had a real prostutitution problem. They'd bust the hookers and they'd be back out on the street the next night. Then they got the brilliant ideas to go after the real perpertrators, the Johns. Printed their pictures and names in the local newspapers. After that, this town stopped being a place to pick up hookers.
Same thing with illegal immigration. Go after the employers. They know they are hiring illegals when they hire them.
You really think those laws aren't enforced?
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Are you honestly comparing prostitution to immigration? Really?
Don't like free movement of labor and capital? Guess what, you're not a conservative. Now go get your Democrat Party hat and march on.
Why does he want to murder Mexicans across international borders, committing a crime in two sovereign jurisdictions?
As I have it so far, the Cain platform rests on
A) Violating the U.S. Constitution by imposing a national sales tax
B) Violating the U.S. Constitution and international law by murdered Mexicans across the border.
