Brokered Democrat Convention?

[jwoodie]

I don't think the DNC will allow a brokered convention to occur. The optics would be terrible. Look for more skullduggery during the primaries. Even allowing Bernie to go down in flames might be preferable to that.

 

[Thinker101]

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I don't think the DNC will allow a brokered convention to occur. The optics would be terrible. Look for more skullduggery during the primaries. Even allowing Bernie to go down in flames might be preferable to that.

Bernie people say that if he goes down in flames cities will go up in flames. It's something to look forward to.

 

[NightFox]

I don't think the DNC will allow a brokered convention to occur. The optics would be terrible. Look for more skullduggery during the primaries. Even allowing Bernie to go down in flames might be preferable to that.

A brokered convention is a central consideration in Michael Bloomberg's strategy and given the results in Iowa is becoming a very real possibility.

The Democrat Party Establishment definitely doesn't want Bernie as its nominee and another potential McGovern '72 and IMHO would be more than willing to handle a brokered convention to avoid it.

 

[bendog]

Even if one candidate does not win enough delegates in primary races the does not make a "brokered" convention, which is a term dating back to before we had primary elections. Brokered means the party elites decide, but that cannot occur anymore.

The dems use of proportional voting, as opposed to the gop's more winner take all system, possibly makes it more likely that one candidate won't have an outright victory. But in dems system, after no one candidate wins it outright on the firsst ballot, the individual delegates are released from being bound to a candidate because of their state primary result. A candidate can ask his formerly pledged delegates to support one of the other candidates. But the delegates don't have to follow.

I suspect Bloomberg may regret not getting in soon enough to get on the SC primary ballot. But he's running ads and making appearances in southern states already, hoping to capitalize on Sanders, Warrens and Mayor Pete's lack of black support. But if he doesn't win in outright and is somewhere close, I'd think the Binden delegates would move to him.

 

[NightFox]

Even if one candidate does not win enough delegates in primary races the does not make a "brokered" convention, which is a term dating back to before we had primary elections. Brokered means the party elites decide, but that cannot occur anymore.

Yeah it can, according to the rule change in 2018, the Dem "super delegates" can act as the deciding votes after the first round of voting if there is no candidate with sufficient pledged delegates to win the nomination.

Those "super delegates" are, in fact, the "party elites" and having them decide the nomination is exactly what Bloomberg is hoping for.

 

[bendog]

Even if one candidate does not win enough delegates in primary races the does not make a "brokered" convention, which is a term dating back to before we had primary elections. Brokered means the party elites decide, but that cannot occur anymore.

Yeah it can, according to the rule change in 2018, the Dem "super delegates" can act as the deciding votes after the first round of voting if there is no candidate with sufficient pledged delegates to win the nomination.

Those "super delegates" are, in fact, the "party elites" and having them decide the nomination is exactly what Bloomberg is hoping for.

As a result, the party has made a significant change for 2020. Superdelegates will no longer vote on the first ballot at the convention unless there is no doubt about the outcome. To win on the first ballot, the frontrunner must secure the majority of pledged delegates available during the nominating contests (primary and caucus) leading up to the Democratic Convention. We estimate^ 3,979 total pledged delegates, with a majority being 1,990.
Superdelegate Rule Changes for the 2020 Democratic Nomination

The superdelegates only come into play if one candidate has not won enough pledged delegates for the nomination.

Ironically, neither Sanders nor Bloomberg are democrats. Of course Trump was not a Republican.

Some people seem to say Sanders can win a general election against Trump. I don't think he could win one against nearly anyone. But if there's not clear dem winner, the superdelegates will go to the strongest candidate. But again, the candidates themselves would have to compete for them by making their case as who is the most likely to beat Trump.

 

[NightFox]

Even if one candidate does not win enough delegates in primary races the does not make a "brokered" convention, which is a term dating back to before we had primary elections. Brokered means the party elites decide, but that cannot occur anymore.

Yeah it can, according to the rule change in 2018, the Dem "super delegates" can act as the deciding votes after the first round of voting if there is no candidate with sufficient pledged delegates to win the nomination.

Those "super delegates" are, in fact, the "party elites" and having them decide the nomination is exactly what Bloomberg is hoping for.

As a result, the party has made a significant change for 2020. Superdelegates will no longer vote on the first ballot at the convention unless there is no doubt about the outcome. To win on the first ballot, the frontrunner must secure the majority of pledged delegates available during the nominating contests (primary and caucus) leading up to the Democratic Convention. We estimate^ 3,979 total pledged delegates, with a majority being 1,990.
Superdelegate Rule Changes for the 2020 Democratic Nomination

The superdelegates only come into play if one candidate has not won enough pledged delegates for the nomination.

Ummm.. yeah that's what I just said.

Bloomberg is hoping to create a situation where nobody has enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination outright and thus open the way for a brokered convention where the super delegates (aka the "party elites") can come into play since he believes the bulk of them would choose him over an extreme leftist like Bernie that doesn't have much support outside of young, white idealists.

 

[bendog]

Even if one candidate does not win enough delegates in primary races the does not make a "brokered" convention, which is a term dating back to before we had primary elections. Brokered means the party elites decide, but that cannot occur anymore.

Yeah it can, according to the rule change in 2018, the Dem "super delegates" can act as the deciding votes after the first round of voting if there is no candidate with sufficient pledged delegates to win the nomination.

Those "super delegates" are, in fact, the "party elites" and having them decide the nomination is exactly what Bloomberg is hoping for.

As a result, the party has made a significant change for 2020. Superdelegates will no longer vote on the first ballot at the convention unless there is no doubt about the outcome. To win on the first ballot, the frontrunner must secure the majority of pledged delegates available during the nominating contests (primary and caucus) leading up to the Democratic Convention. We estimate^ 3,979 total pledged delegates, with a majority being 1,990.
Superdelegate Rule Changes for the 2020 Democratic Nomination

The superdelegates only come into play if one candidate has not won enough pledged delegates for the nomination.

Ummm.. yeah that's what I just said.

Bloomberg is hoping to create a situation where nobody has enough pledged delegates to secure the nomination outright and thus open the way for a brokered convention where the super delegates (aka the "party elites") can come into play since he believes the bulk of them would choose him over an extreme leftist like Bernie that doesn't have much support outside of young, white idealists.

I think Bloomberg is running to win it outright, and seeing what he's done in the South the past month or so, he just might … if Biden drops out after SC, and he may run out of money even before that.

Imo the dems have a real possibility of being a divided party as they were in 68 and 72. But running of medicare for all and totally "free" college will not win a general election. On the other hand, the more center candidate could make the arugment that having a public option will eventually result in everyone choosing Medicare, and you don't actually have to tax personal income to get there. Bernie just likes the notion of "collectivism." Apparently it made a big impression on him when the visited as the soviets guests in their workers' paradise.

And there's no reason college kids can't have more options for stuff like Teach for America. I've known a couple of kids who did that, it was very good for their eventual employment because employers were impressed.

 

[busybee01]

There is not going to be a brokered convention. A lot of these candidates will be forced out after New Hampshire. Then you will get out of the lily white states and have to form multi-cultural coalitions. That spells problems for the other candidates.