BREAKING: Pope & Russian Orthodox Church Publicly Denounce Gay Marriage: Goodbye Hispanic Votes

As usual, you are confused about what a law is- and what the Supreme Court does.

The Supreme Court ruled, for the fourth time, that State marriage laws were unconstitutional.

No 'new law' was implemented- only unconstitutional laws overturned- something the Supreme Court does and is supposed to do.

1. The Obergefell Hearing was about a proposed revision to what each state defined as their marriage contract terms. States defined their marriage contract terms to benefit children states know are implicit expected parties to the marriage contract. Though minors, their share is the most important of all of the marriage contract.

2. Obergefell was Heard without children having any representation as to their unique enjoyments to that contract. Which is illegal. Ergo, Obergefell was a mistrial.

3. Therefore, the Court hasn't ruled on anything. Any state can feel completely free to disobey Obergefell under the justification that it hurts children's contractual rights to marriage (a mother and father). In fact, if states don't disobey Obergefell, they are essentially in conspiracy to abet child abuse.

For more information: Is Gay Marriage Void? New York v Ferber (1982) Etc.

1. The Obergefell Hearing was about a proposed revision to what each state defined as their marriage contract terms- NO

2. Obergefell was Heard without children having any representation as to their unique enjoyments to that contract. Which is illegal. No- frankly delusional

3. Therefore, the Court hasn't ruled on anything. Again- frankly delusional- as evidenced by same gender couples marrying in all 50 states now
 
February 12, 2016.......Pope Francis and Patriarch Kirill of the Russian Orthodox Church issued a joint statement on Friday denouncing same-sex marriage and expressing their “regret” that opposite-sex marriage is “being banished from the public conscience.”.....The two leaders issued the statement after a historic meeting in Cuba, marking the first time leaders from the Catholic and Orthodox churches have met in nearly 1,000 years. Pope Francis and Russian Orthodox Patriarch Attack Gay Marriage in Joint Statement - VIDEO - Towleroad

I predicted last year or so that the Pope would come to the US and hold a vigil to protect traditional marriage. That happened last year. But the media blacked out/talked over/ panned away from his vigil in Philly where he showed film clips of traditional marrieds and his stance against non-traditional (gay) 'marriage'..

So the Pope instead of dancing around the topic, just joined for the first time in over a 1,000 years, the Russian Orthodox Church to make a public statement about it:

********* Joint declaration of Pope Francis, Patriarch Kirill
It is with joy that we have met like brothers in the Christian faith who encounter one another "to speak face to face" from heart to heart, to discuss the mutual relations between the Churches, the crucial problems of our faithful, and the outlook for the progress of human civilization....

...The powerful religious potential of Latin America, its centuries–old Christian tradition, grounded in the personal experience of millions of people, are the pledge of a great future for this region.

By meeting far from the longstanding disputes of the "Old World" we experience with a particular sense of urgency the need for the shared labor of Catholics and Orthodox, who are called, with gentleness and respect, to give an explanation to the world of the hope in us...

..In a world which yearns not only for our words but also for tangible gestures, may this meeting be a sign of hope for all people of goodwill....

...we are concerned about the situation in many countries in which Christians are increasingly confronted by restrictions to religious freedom, to the right to witness to one’s convictions and to live in conformity with them. In particular, we observe that the transformation of some countries into secularized societies, estranged from all reference to God and to His truth, constitutes a grave threat to religious freedom. It is a source of concern for us that there is a current curtailment of the rights of Christians, if not their outright discrimination, when certain political forces, guided by an often very aggressive secularist ideology, seek to relegate them to the margins of public life....

...The family is the natural center of human life and society. We are concerned about the crisis in the family in many countries. Orthodox and Catholics share the same conception of the family, and are called to witness that it is a path of holiness, testifying to the faithfulness of the spouses in their mutual interaction, to their openness to the procreation and rearing of their children, to solidarity between the generations and to respect for the weakest....

...The family is based on marriage, an act of freely given and faithful love between a man and a woman. It is love that seals their union and teaches them to accept one another as a gift. Marriage is a school of love and faithfulness. We regret that other forms of cohabitation have been placed on the same level as this union, while the concept, consecrated in the biblical tradition, of paternity and maternity as the distinct vocation of man and woman in marriage is being banished from the public conscience. "


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Now if I were a candidate like Hillary or Sanders or Trump who are either outright or covertly supportive of or consider gay marriage "beautiful", I'd start to work feverishly on a PR-spin to my Catholic Hispanic base. Put it in overdrive maybe?

You know about Hillary's "evolution" on gay marriage, she's deep in that saddle... but were you aware of Trump's friend George Takai's revelations about Trump's stance on it?

Gay Marriage Ads Took Pounds of Flesh From Trump: 1st Time His Lead Shrank Almost By Half
oh noes...libtards love the pope...until now
 
As usual, you are confused about what a law is- and what the Supreme Court does.

The Supreme Court ruled, for the fourth time, that State marriage laws were unconstitutional.

No 'new law' was implemented- only unconstitutional laws overturned- something the Supreme Court does and is supposed to do.

1. The Obergefell Hearing was about a proposed revision to what each state defined as their marriage contract terms. States defined their marriage contract terms to benefit children states know are implicit expected parties to the marriage contract. Though minors, their share is the most important of all of the marriage contract.

2. Obergefell was Heard without children having any representation as to their unique enjoyments to that contract. Which is illegal. Ergo, Obergefell was a mistrial.

3. Therefore, the Court hasn't ruled on anything. Any state can feel completely free to disobey Obergefell under the justification that it hurts children's contractual rights to marriage (a mother and father). In fact, if states don't disobey Obergefell, they are essentially in conspiracy to abet child abuse.

For more information: Is Gay Marriage Void? New York v Ferber (1982) Etc.

1. The Obergefell Hearing was about a proposed revision to what each state defined as their marriage contract terms- NO
2. Obergefell was Heard without children having any representation as to their unique enjoyments to that contract. Which is illegal. No- frankly delusional
3. Therefore, the Court hasn't ruled on anything. Again- frankly delusional- as evidenced by same gender couples marrying in all 50 states now

"Frankly delusional" isn't going to cut it in a court of law. That's never accepted as a rebuttal.
 
As usual, you are confused about what a law is- and what the Supreme Court does.

The Supreme Court ruled, for the fourth time, that State marriage laws were unconstitutional.

No 'new law' was implemented- only unconstitutional laws overturned- something the Supreme Court does and is supposed to do.

1. The Obergefell Hearing was about a proposed revisional.

No- Obergefell was the fourth ruling by the Supreme Court overturning unconstitutional State marriage laws.
 
Syriusly has seen the polls on the churches thread and the parents poll. She knows the silent opposition to gay marriage is running about 80-90%. You'd think politicians would notice those numbers too. But apparently none of them read the USMB message board..

Poll. Please Vote. Did You Have a Mother & Father in Your Life?

Should Churches be forced to accomodate for homosexual weddings?

Poor little delusional Sil. Can't over the fact that 57% of Americans support gay marriage. :itsok:
Gay Marriage

Bullshit. At most 57% of Americans just dont want to have the government doing anything about it. A much smaller percentage actually think fag marriage is good for the country as it obviously is not.
We dont need a disease super highway among our demographic groups, nor a group that is among the highest suicide rates, pedophile rates and criminal rates among all demographic groups in the country. Higher than back woods moonshiners, higher than dope dealing urban black, HIGHER THAN ALL OTHER GROUPS.

No, bullshit, we dont need that crap.

But they have the right to live their lives unmolested by the government, for damned sure.

I am sorry if the Pew results don't match your narrative. Truly I am.

Get over it. Or don't. Gay marriage is here to stay. Now fuck off and mind your household. lol
No, fag marriage is not here to stay. It will be returned to civil union status soon enough.

There is only marriage- and marriage is here to stay.
MArriage is not defined as male with male, and it never will any more than Bruce Jenner will ever be a woman.
 
MArriage is not defined as male with male, and it never will any more than Bruce Jenner will ever be a woman.

Agreed. Plus, can you imagine the recruiting power for Islamic terrorists that a poster with this image "representing American values" hung up in their recruiting office? There's probably a waiting line for enlistees wrapping twice around the block.

caitlyn-jenner_zpsqxaripxi.jpg
 
Poor little delusional Sil. Can't over the fact that 57% of Americans support gay marriage. :itsok:
Gay Marriage

Bullshit. At most 57% of Americans just dont want to have the government doing anything about it. A much smaller percentage actually think fag marriage is good for the country as it obviously is not.
We dont need a disease super highway among our demographic groups, nor a group that is among the highest suicide rates, pedophile rates and criminal rates among all demographic groups in the country. Higher than back woods moonshiners, higher than dope dealing urban black, HIGHER THAN ALL OTHER GROUPS.

No, bullshit, we dont need that crap.

But they have the right to live their lives unmolested by the government, for damned sure.

I am sorry if the Pew results don't match your narrative. Truly I am.

Get over it. Or don't. Gay marriage is here to stay. Now fuck off and mind your household. lol
No, fag marriage is not here to stay. It will be returned to civil union status soon enough.

There is only marriage- and marriage is here to stay.
MArriage is not defined as male with male, and it never will any more than Bruce Jenner will ever be a woman.

Well actually- it is defined as exactly what it is- in the two most authoritative English language dictionaries- you of course can define marriage however you want....

Webster:
a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage <same-sex marriage>

Oxford English Dictionary
The legally or formally recognized union of a man and a woman (or, in some jurisdictions, two people of the same sex) as partners in a relationship:
 
MArriage is not defined as male with male, and it never will any more than Bruce Jenner will ever be a woman.

Agreed. Plus, can you imagine the recruiting power for Islamic terrorists that a poster with this image "representing American values" hung up in their recruiting office? There's probably a waiting line for enlistees wrapping twice around the block.

caitlyn-jenner_zpsqxaripxi.jpg

Yeah- that is a winning argument of Silhouette's:

We should prevent 'gay marriage' out of respect for ISIS.....
 
MArriage is not defined as male with male, and it never will any more than Bruce Jenner will ever be a woman.

Agreed. Plus, can you imagine the recruiting power for Islamic terrorists that a poster with this image "representing American values" hung up in their recruiting office? There's probably a waiting line for enlistees wrapping twice around the block.

caitlyn-jenner_zpsqxaripxi.jpg

We should also ban immodest dress for women as well. We wouldn't to offend ISIS and help them gain recruits. lol
 
February 12, 2016.......Pope Francis and Patriarch Kirill of the Russian Orthodox Church issued a joint statement on Friday denouncing same-sex marriage and expressing their “regret” that opposite-sex marriage is “being banished from the public conscience.”.....The two leaders issued the statement after a historic meeting in Cuba, marking the first time leaders from the Catholic and Orthodox churches have met in nearly 1,000 years. Pope Francis and Russian Orthodox Patriarch Attack Gay Marriage in Joint Statement - VIDEO - Towleroad

I predicted last year or so that the Pope would come to the US and hold a vigil to protect traditional marriage. That happened last year. But the media blacked out/talked over/ panned away from his vigil in Philly where he showed film clips of traditional marrieds and his stance against non-traditional (gay) 'marriage'..

So the Pope instead of dancing around the topic, just joined for the first time in over a 1,000 years, the Russian Orthodox Church to make a public statement about it:

********* Joint declaration of Pope Francis, Patriarch Kirill
It is with joy that we have met like brothers in the Christian faith who encounter one another "to speak face to face" from heart to heart, to discuss the mutual relations between the Churches, the crucial problems of our faithful, and the outlook for the progress of human civilization....

...The powerful religious potential of Latin America, its centuries–old Christian tradition, grounded in the personal experience of millions of people, are the pledge of a great future for this region.

By meeting far from the longstanding disputes of the "Old World" we experience with a particular sense of urgency the need for the shared labor of Catholics and Orthodox, who are called, with gentleness and respect, to give an explanation to the world of the hope in us...

..In a world which yearns not only for our words but also for tangible gestures, may this meeting be a sign of hope for all people of goodwill....

...we are concerned about the situation in many countries in which Christians are increasingly confronted by restrictions to religious freedom, to the right to witness to one’s convictions and to live in conformity with them. In particular, we observe that the transformation of some countries into secularized societies, estranged from all reference to God and to His truth, constitutes a grave threat to religious freedom. It is a source of concern for us that there is a current curtailment of the rights of Christians, if not their outright discrimination, when certain political forces, guided by an often very aggressive secularist ideology, seek to relegate them to the margins of public life....

...The family is the natural center of human life and society. We are concerned about the crisis in the family in many countries. Orthodox and Catholics share the same conception of the family, and are called to witness that it is a path of holiness, testifying to the faithfulness of the spouses in their mutual interaction, to their openness to the procreation and rearing of their children, to solidarity between the generations and to respect for the weakest....

...The family is based on marriage, an act of freely given and faithful love between a man and a woman. It is love that seals their union and teaches them to accept one another as a gift. Marriage is a school of love and faithfulness. We regret that other forms of cohabitation have been placed on the same level as this union, while the concept, consecrated in the biblical tradition, of paternity and maternity as the distinct vocation of man and woman in marriage is being banished from the public conscience. "


********
Now if I were a candidate like Hillary or Sanders or Trump who are either outright or covertly supportive of or consider gay marriage "beautiful", I'd start to work feverishly on a PR-spin to my Catholic Hispanic base. Put it in overdrive maybe?

You know about Hillary's "evolution" on gay marriage, she's deep in that saddle... but were you aware of Trump's friend George Takai's revelations about Trump's stance on it?

Gay Marriage Ads Took Pounds of Flesh From Trump: 1st Time His Lead Shrank Almost By Half

And thread 51 on the exact same topic.

Um, there aren't many Russian Orthodox hispanics. Its kind of a white guy religion unless you're an Eskimo.

And the catholic church has long since condemned same sex marriage. Without much effect on the hispanic vote.
 
We should also ban immodest dress for women as well. We wouldn't to offend ISIS and help them gain recruits. lol
lol, yeah, right, as if men maiming themselves into genderless eunuchs is the equivalent of women wearing 'immodest dress'.

roflmao
 
MArriage is not defined as male with male, and it never will any more than Bruce Jenner will ever be a woman.

Agreed. Plus, can you imagine the recruiting power for Islamic terrorists that a poster with this image "representing American values" hung up in their recruiting office? There's probably a waiting line for enlistees wrapping twice around the block.
What is most amazing is that they have no clear how nonWesterners see this disgusting ruin of a person as utterly unnatural and repugnant.

Hell, he/she/it is repugnant to most Americans.
 
MArriage is not defined as male with male, and it never will any more than Bruce Jenner will ever be a woman.

Agreed. Plus, can you imagine the recruiting power for Islamic terrorists that a poster with this image "representing American values" hung up in their recruiting office? There's probably a waiting line for enlistees wrapping twice around the block.

Yeah- that is a winning argument of Silhouette's:

We should prevent 'gay marriage' out of respect for ISIS.....

That wasnt his point, dumbfuck.

He is pointing out that even the fucked up morons in ISIS arent this screwed up and they can use it for recruitment, like Obummer is claiming they already do with Gitmo and Trumps rhetoric.
 
We should also ban immodest dress for women as well. We wouldn't to offend ISIS and help them gain recruits. lol
lol, yeah, right, as if men maiming themselves into genderless eunuchs is the equivalent of women wearing 'immodest dress'.

roflmao

It is to overly-sensitive pussies that make up The Daesh. lol
 
It is to overly-sensitive pussies that make up The Daesh. lol

Did you know that pornography subscriptions and traffic are highest in the Daesh? They also have the highest rate of child porn and torture porn, lol, and no, I cannot share my source.
 
It is to overly-sensitive pussies that make up The Daesh. lol

Did you know that pornography subscriptions and traffic are highest in the Daesh? They also have the highest rate of child porn and torture porn, lol, and no, I cannot share my source.

Oh, I wouldn't be shocked in the least. It's always the holier-than-thou fucks with most horrifying skeletons to hide.
 
MArriage is not defined as male with male, and it never will any more than Bruce Jenner will ever be a woman.

Agreed. Plus, can you imagine the recruiting power for Islamic terrorists that a poster with this image "representing American values" hung up in their recruiting office? There's probably a waiting line for enlistees wrapping twice around the block.

Yeah- that is a winning argument of Silhouette's:

We should prevent 'gay marriage' out of respect for ISIS.....

That wasnt his point, dumbfuck.

He is pointing out that even the fucked up morons in ISIS arent this screwed up and they can use it for recruitment, like Obummer is claiming they already do with Gitmo and Trumps rhetoric.

Silhouette has only one point- fucking over homosexuals.

Dumbfuck bigots like you are enabling her
 
It is to overly-sensitive pussies that make up The Daesh. lol

Did you know that pornography subscriptions and traffic are highest in the Daesh? They also have the highest rate of child porn and torture porn, lol, and no, I cannot share my source.

Hardly a surprise- clearly religious zealotry is part of the slippery slope to child porn.....
 

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