Bobby Jindal: I’m Holding Firm Against Gay Marriage

[Pheonixops]

Anti gay marriage = curmudgeon.

But I somehow doubt Jindal, like Obama, is anti gay marriage. Hes smarter than at least THAT.

His base needs him to be against it sort of like Obama needed some of those independents who were against it...so was against it.

No pragmatic human is against gay marriage. Not 1.

Jindal has nothing that the other candidates don't have more of. So he needs a way to distinguish himself from the presidental contender pack. Its a risk free proposition for him. If it works (unlikely), he gains the Republican nod. If it fails (likely), it still plays well in LA.

So why not double down on gay marriage. Sure, it fucks the party as a whole by helping the democrats refocus the campaign on an issue that Republicans don't do well in. But GOP politicians fucking the party for their own political advantage is part and parcel to the new GOP.

really, honestly...I don't think gay marriage is really that big of an issue that will give an advantage for one opinioin or the other. Truth be told, those who are passionate about t are voting one side no matter what and those on the fence don't really care about gay marriage.

In other words, it doesn't really matter. Jindal's position on gay marriage will have no effect on his electablity.

On a one issue note, you're probably right. But as a narrative of how backward and anti-freedom the GOP is, the optics on this are a partisans wet dream. Elections aren't won or lost among liberals or conservatives. But among moderates and independents. Both of which support gay marriage.

Consider it another voice in the chorus. Yet another example of how the GOP's values don't line up with the voters they need to win the presidency.

Moderates and independents don't overwhelmingly support gay marriage.

Moderates and Independents do support gay marriage:

Moderates and independents support gay marriage at higher rates than the general public. And the general public already supports gay marriage by 13 points. Moderates have moved almost as much on gay marriage as liberals have.

And the ones who do...It isn't anywhere near their number one issue. Independents and moderates understand that supporting traditional family values is not far right as some like to portray it.

I never said it was their number one issue. I said "on a one issue note, you're probably right. But as a narrative of how backward and anti-freedom the GOP is, the optics on this are a partisan's wet dream. Elections aren't won or lost among liberals or conservatives. But among moderates and independents. Both of which support gay marriage.".

This issue is a voice in the chorus, one issue among many where the views of republicans don't mesh with the values of the folks conservatives need to win the presidency: namely, independents and moderates.

Especially when self identified liberals are at an all time high. While self identified conservatives are one point off an all time low.

Speaking as a Liberal and a Moderate , I have no problem with gay marriage in the least . How does two homosexuals marrying each mess up my heterosexual marriage? In my opinion, this "gay marriage" issue is just a bunch of nosy bigots/homophobes sticking their nose into other people's business.

 

[g5000]

How does two homosexuals marrying each mess up my heterosexual marriage?

Well, you see, Billy, when a boy bee meets a girl bee and wants some head, and then the boy bee finds out that boy bees who like other boy bees get more head than boy bees who like girl bees, then the boy bee who likes girl bees starts thinking maybe he should choose to like boy bees, too. Then there are no more boy bees making baby bees with girl bees. And that is how all the bees died off in a colony collapse disorder just like the Roman bees, and now our planet has only six months to live.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Why doesn't Jindal use his real first name, and no, its not Bobbie his name is: Piyush Jindal, an anchor baby. Why is he ashamed of his real name?

Better question is, why isn't he ashamed of having picked 'Bobby' because he was a huge Bobby Brady fan?

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

It is great to see sound leadership again. It's becoming something that appears will soon be lost to Western Civilization... .

"BATON ROUGE, La. — THE debate over religious liberty in America presents conservatives and business leaders with a crucial choice.

In Indiana and Arkansas, large corporations recently joined left-wing activists to bully elected officials into backing away from strong protections for religious liberty. It was disappointing to see conservative leaders so hastily retreat on legislation that would simply allow for an individual or business to claim a right to free exercise of religion in a court of law.

Our country was founded on the principle of religious liberty, enshrined in the Bill of Rights. Why shouldn’t an individual or business have the right to cite, in a court proceeding, religious liberty as a reason for not participating in a same-sex marriage ceremony that violates a sincerely held religious belief?

That is what Indiana and Arkansas sought to do. That political leaders in both states quickly cowered amid the shrieks of big business and the radical left should alarm us all.

As the fight for religious liberty moves to Louisiana, I have a clear message for any corporation that contemplates bullying our state: Save your breath.

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Gov. Bobby Jindal, front, with his family during a prayer at the opening session of the Louisiana State Legislature in April. CreditPool photo by Gerald Herbert
In 2010, Louisiana adopted a Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which prohibits government from unduly burdening a person’s exercise of religion. However, given the changing positions of politicians, judges and the public in favor of same-sex marriage, along with the potential for discrimination against Christian individuals and businesses that comes with these shifts, I plan in this legislative session to fight for passage of the Marriage and Conscience Act.

The legislation would prohibit the state from denying a person, company or nonprofit group a license, accreditation, employment or contract — or taking other “adverse action” — based on the person or entity’s religious views on the institution of marriage.

Some corporations have already contacted me and asked me to oppose this law. I am certain that other companies, under pressure from radical liberals, will do the same. They are free to voice their opinions, but they will not deter me. As a nation we would not compel a priest, minister or rabbi to violate his conscience and perform a same-sex wedding ceremony. But a great many Americans who are not members of the clergy feel just as called to live their faith through their businesses. That’s why we should ensure that musicians, caterers, photographers and others should be immune from government coercion on deeply held religious convictions.

The bill does not, as opponents assert, create a right to discriminate against, or generally refuse service to, gay men or lesbians. The bill does not change anything as it relates to the law in terms of discrimination suits between private parties. It merely makes our constitutional freedom so well defined that no judge can miss it.

I hold the view that has been the consensus in our country for over two centuries: that marriage is between one man and one woman. Polls indicate that the American consensus is changing — but like many other believers, I will not change my faith-driven view on this matter, even if it becomes a minority opinion."

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LOL, he won't get anywhere in the Presidential race except for maybe last place or second to last place.

I doubt that he'll even place... Given he isn't running.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

ROFL! How cool is it that the cult is incapable of facing the fact the marriage is defined as the joining of One Man and One Woman and as a result are forced to talk about anything else?


That tells ya everything ya need to know about where THEY know they're at in terms of political position. They're flailing... And sucking hope upon optimism that it's still 2009 and Democrats are stampeding federal government and forging public opinion.

Sadly the Anti-Bush hysteria only carried them to early 2010... When the public began purging Democrats from every level of government... Local, State and Federal... Which continues to grow in antiLeftist intensity.

 

[Skylar]

ROFL! How cool is it that the cult is incapable of facing the fact the marriage is defined as the joining of One Man and One Woman and as a result are forced to talk about anything else?

And by 'fact', you mean whatever shit you choose to believe? Remember, we invented marriage. It means whatever say it means. And in 37 of 50 states it includes a man and a man. Or a woman and a woman.

You disagree. Um, so what? You citing you isn't our basis of marriage. And no, you pretending to speak for 'nature' in an appeal to authority fallacy doesn't change that.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Anti gay marriage = curmudgeon.

But I somehow doubt Jindal, like Obama, is anti gay marriage. Hes smarter than at least THAT.

His base needs him to be against it sort of like Obama needed some of those independents who were against it...so was against it.

No pragmatic human is against gay marriage. Not 1.

Marriage is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

And by 'fact', you mean whatever shit you choose to believe?

No, that's Relativism, thus you.

You just need to believe that everyone else is saddled with mental disorder. There's bad news there... its disorder, because it deviates from the cognitive order, which is to say validity... the means to process reality as it actually is, not as you need it to be.

Ya see scamp, Homosexual is a mental disorder which presents sexual deviancy among other profound abnormalities... not the least of those being the addled cognitive processes OKA: Relativism.

It's pitiful, personified.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Well, he is going against the majority of Americans (60%) who support gay marriage.

Of the other 40%, many are the "indifferent."

Keep failing on wedge issues Bobby.

I admire the man for sticking to his guns. It's about damned time someone stood up for what they believe. And your stats are pure nonsense. I am NOT indifferent. I'm against - so there you go.

But the cause he is 'sticking to his guns' for is an unworthy cause at best, anti-American at its extreme.

There is no harm posed by marriage equality. No heterosexual marriages are at jeopardy. Denial of equal rights means everyone's rights are being denied. Marriage, in the eyes of the state, is a contract. If churches chose not to sanctify a marriage, it is then the province of that church, not contract law established by the state.

Can anyone demonstrate the actual harm that would befall this nation once the last 14 states accept marriage equality?

It is immoral and a threat to our traditional values. Same sex marriage is an abomination to society.

Traditional values must be erased and rewritten from time to time. Once, traditional values held that Blacks were inferior to Whites. They held that a woman's place is in the home. They held that children should work in sweatshops.

Thank God we evolve and not become hopelessly chained to 'traditional values'.

It's also a very traditional value that we don't have sex with children.. but there are some that think that is antiquated...

The Legalization of the Adult pursuit of children for Sexual gratification is the cornerstone of the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality. The Child-fuckers are the primary and loudest voices of the Sexual Deviancy Cult. Without them, you'd have never heard of any of this crap.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Bobby Jindal: I’m Holding Firm Against Gay Marriage"

Good for him.

And should the Supreme Court reverse the Sixth Circuit, same-sex couples will in fact marry in Louisiana, along with the other 49 states, and Jindal will have had his George Wallace moment.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Speaking as a Liberal and a Moderate , I have no problem with gay marriage in the least . How does two homosexuals marrying each mess up my heterosexual marriage?

Marriage is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

"Bobby Jindal: I’m Holding Firm Against Gay Marriage"

Good for him.

And should the Supreme Court reverse the Sixth Circuit, same-sex couples will in fact marry in Louisiana, along with the other 49 states, and Jindal will have had his George Wallace moment.

No... they won't. You're missing the trend wherein the States are ignoring the Federal Courts on this.

Call it the "Andy Jackson" approach.

 

[Nosmo King]

I admire the man for sticking to his guns. It's about damned time someone stood up for what they believe. And your stats are pure nonsense. I am NOT indifferent. I'm against - so there you go.

But the cause he is 'sticking to his guns' for is an unworthy cause at best, anti-American at its extreme.

There is no harm posed by marriage equality. No heterosexual marriages are at jeopardy. Denial of equal rights means everyone's rights are being denied. Marriage, in the eyes of the state, is a contract. If churches chose not to sanctify a marriage, it is then the province of that church, not contract law established by the state.

Can anyone demonstrate the actual harm that would befall this nation once the last 14 states accept marriage equality?

It is immoral and a threat to our traditional values. Same sex marriage is an abomination to society.

Traditional values must be erased and rewritten from time to time. Once, traditional values held that Blacks were inferior to Whites. They held that a woman's place is in the home. They held that children should work in sweatshops.

Thank God we evolve and not become hopelessly chained to 'traditional values'.

It's also a very traditional value that we don't have sex with children.. but there are some that think that is antiquated...

The Legalization of the Adult pursuit of children for Sexual gratification is the cornerstone of the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality. The Child-fuckers are the primary and loudest voices of the Sexual Deviancy Cult. Without them, you'd have never heard of any of this crap.

Who is advocating that? I mean real people, not just the voices in your head.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

But the cause he is 'sticking to his guns' for is an unworthy cause at best, anti-American at its extreme.

There is no harm posed by marriage equality. No heterosexual marriages are at jeopardy. Denial of equal rights means everyone's rights are being denied. Marriage, in the eyes of the state, is a contract. If churches chose not to sanctify a marriage, it is then the province of that church, not contract law established by the state.

Can anyone demonstrate the actual harm that would befall this nation once the last 14 states accept marriage equality?

It is immoral and a threat to our traditional values. Same sex marriage is an abomination to society.

Traditional values must be erased and rewritten from time to time. Once, traditional values held that Blacks were inferior to Whites. They held that a woman's place is in the home. They held that children should work in sweatshops.

Thank God we evolve and not become hopelessly chained to 'traditional values'.

It's also a very traditional value that we don't have sex with children.. but there are some that think that is antiquated...

The Legalization of the Adult pursuit of children for Sexual gratification is the cornerstone of the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality. The Child-fuckers are the primary and loudest voices of the Sexual Deviancy Cult. Without them, you'd have never heard of any of this crap.

Who is advocating that? I mean real people, not just the voices in your head.

The APA is the most notable... then there are these Leftists:

Table 1. Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites

Name of Website

Name of Website

North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)

Open Hands

IPCE

Boy Sky

Safet.net

Boy Tales

Girl Chat

LifeLine

Alice Pix

Angels Boylove Forum

Americans for a Society Free from Age Restrictions (ASFAR)[10]

RoboFrosh

Butterfly Kisses

Boyz World

Danish Pedophile Association

Somersault's Lounge

Martijn

Mhamic

Glorious Girls

Paiderastia

Debate Guide

The Human Face of Pedophilia

Cerius Love

Philia

Pedologues

CLogo

Puellula

Paedo UK

Boy Chat

Pedofilie

Free Spirits

The Church of Zeus and Ganymede

Pedophilia: Truth vs. Myth

Critical Estoppel

Boy Lover

Boy Bliss

Age Taboo

Magic Boy Angels

Christian Boylove Forum

Boyland Online

Boy Moment

The Childlove News

Elijah's Forum

Common Ground

International Boylovers United

Crossroads Debate

The Boylove Online Community

DreamScape

Teen Boys World

Pedophiles Against Child Molestation

A Hundred Years of Pedophilia

Haven 4 Boys

International Boylove Magazine

Boyz World Photo Gallery

Starry Twilight

Proud to Love

Backwoodsman's Bits

Koinos Magazine

Boylove Channel

Perspectives

JON

BoyWiki

About Boylove

Kid Shady

Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites as Social Learning Environments: A Content Analysis

 

[Moonglow]

Speaking as a Liberal and a Moderate , I have no problem with gay marriage in the least . How does two homosexuals marrying each mess up my heterosexual marriage?

Marriage is the Joining of One Man and One Woman.

Sewn with thread...

 

[Moonglow]

It is immoral and a threat to our traditional values. Same sex marriage is an abomination to society.

Traditional values must be erased and rewritten from time to time. Once, traditional values held that Blacks were inferior to Whites. They held that a woman's place is in the home. They held that children should work in sweatshops.

Thank God we evolve and not become hopelessly chained to 'traditional values'.

It's also a very traditional value that we don't have sex with children.. but there are some that think that is antiquated...

The Legalization of the Adult pursuit of children for Sexual gratification is the cornerstone of the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality. The Child-fuckers are the primary and loudest voices of the Sexual Deviancy Cult. Without them, you'd have never heard of any of this crap.

Who is advocating that? I mean real people, not just the voices in your head.

The APA is the most notable... then there are these Leftists:

Table 1. Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites

Name of Website

Name of Website

North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)

Open Hands

IPCE

Boy Sky

Safet.net

Boy Tales

Girl Chat

LifeLine

Alice Pix

Angels Boylove Forum

Americans for a Society Free from Age Restrictions (ASFAR)[10]

RoboFrosh

Butterfly Kisses

Boyz World

Danish Pedophile Association

Somersault's Lounge

Martijn

Mhamic

Glorious Girls

Paiderastia

Debate Guide

The Human Face of Pedophilia

Cerius Love

Philia

Pedologues

CLogo

Puellula

Paedo UK

Boy Chat

Pedofilie

Free Spirits

The Church of Zeus and Ganymede

Pedophilia: Truth vs. Myth

Critical Estoppel

Boy Lover

Boy Bliss

Age Taboo

Magic Boy Angels

Christian Boylove Forum

Boyland Online

Boy Moment

The Childlove News

Elijah's Forum

Common Ground

International Boylovers United

Crossroads Debate

The Boylove Online Community

DreamScape

Teen Boys World

Pedophiles Against Child Molestation

A Hundred Years of Pedophilia

Haven 4 Boys

International Boylove Magazine

Boyz World Photo Gallery

Starry Twilight

Proud to Love

Backwoodsman's Bits

Koinos Magazine

Boylove Channel

Perspectives

JON

BoyWiki

About Boylove

Kid Shady

Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites as Social Learning Environments: A Content Analysis

Looks more like conservative sites really...

 

[Nosmo King]

Traditional values must be erased and rewritten from time to time. Once, traditional values held that Blacks were inferior to Whites. They held that a woman's place is in the home. They held that children should work in sweatshops.

Thank God we evolve and not become hopelessly chained to 'traditional values'.

It's also a very traditional value that we don't have sex with children.. but there are some that think that is antiquated...

The Legalization of the Adult pursuit of children for Sexual gratification is the cornerstone of the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality. The Child-fuckers are the primary and loudest voices of the Sexual Deviancy Cult. Without them, you'd have never heard of any of this crap.

Who is advocating that? I mean real people, not just the voices in your head.

The APA is the most notable... then there are these Leftists:

Table 1. Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites

Name of Website

Name of Website

North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)

Open Hands

IPCE

Boy Sky

Safet.net

Boy Tales

Girl Chat

LifeLine

Alice Pix

Angels Boylove Forum

Americans for a Society Free from Age Restrictions (ASFAR)[10]

RoboFrosh

Butterfly Kisses

Boyz World

Danish Pedophile Association

Somersault's Lounge

Martijn

Mhamic

Glorious Girls

Paiderastia

Debate Guide

The Human Face of Pedophilia

Cerius Love

Philia

Pedologues

CLogo

Puellula

Paedo UK

Boy Chat

Pedofilie

Free Spirits

The Church of Zeus and Ganymede

Pedophilia: Truth vs. Myth

Critical Estoppel

Boy Lover

Boy Bliss

Age Taboo

Magic Boy Angels

Christian Boylove Forum

Boyland Online

Boy Moment

The Childlove News

Elijah's Forum

Common Ground

International Boylovers United

Crossroads Debate

The Boylove Online Community

DreamScape

Teen Boys World

Pedophiles Against Child Molestation

A Hundred Years of Pedophilia

Haven 4 Boys

International Boylove Magazine

Boyz World Photo Gallery

Starry Twilight

Proud to Love

Backwoodsman's Bits

Koinos Magazine

Boylove Channel

Perspectives

JON

BoyWiki

About Boylove

Kid Shady

Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites as Social Learning Environments: A Content Analysis

Looks more like conservative sites really...

xxxxxxxx Other than the 18 guys paying NAMBLA dues, has anyone ever heard of these outfits?

 

[NYcarbineer]

It is immoral and a threat to our traditional values. Same sex marriage is an abomination to society.

Traditional values must be erased and rewritten from time to time. Once, traditional values held that Blacks were inferior to Whites. They held that a woman's place is in the home. They held that children should work in sweatshops.

Thank God we evolve and not become hopelessly chained to 'traditional values'.

It's also a very traditional value that we don't have sex with children.. but there are some that think that is antiquated...

The Legalization of the Adult pursuit of children for Sexual gratification is the cornerstone of the Advocacy to Normalize Sexual Abnormality. The Child-fuckers are the primary and loudest voices of the Sexual Deviancy Cult. Without them, you'd have never heard of any of this crap.

Who is advocating that? I mean real people, not just the voices in your head.

The APA is the most notable... then there are these Leftists:

Table 1. Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites

Name of Website

Name of Website

North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA)

Open Hands

IPCE

Boy Sky

Safet.net

Boy Tales

Girl Chat

LifeLine

Alice Pix

Angels Boylove Forum

Americans for a Society Free from Age Restrictions (ASFAR)[10]

RoboFrosh

Butterfly Kisses

Boyz World

Danish Pedophile Association

Somersault's Lounge

Martijn

Mhamic

Glorious Girls

Paiderastia

Debate Guide

The Human Face of Pedophilia

Cerius Love

Philia

Pedologues

CLogo

Puellula

Paedo UK

Boy Chat

Pedofilie

Free Spirits

The Church of Zeus and Ganymede

Pedophilia: Truth vs. Myth

Critical Estoppel

Boy Lover

Boy Bliss

Age Taboo

Magic Boy Angels

Christian Boylove Forum

Boyland Online

Boy Moment

The Childlove News

Elijah's Forum

Common Ground

International Boylovers United

Crossroads Debate

The Boylove Online Community

DreamScape

Teen Boys World

Pedophiles Against Child Molestation

A Hundred Years of Pedophilia

Haven 4 Boys

International Boylove Magazine

Boyz World Photo Gallery

Starry Twilight

Proud to Love

Backwoodsman's Bits

Koinos Magazine

Boylove Channel

Perspectives

JON

BoyWiki

About Boylove

Kid Shady

Adult-Child Sex Advocacy Websites as Social Learning Environments: A Content Analysis

This from the guy who considers Jesus a sexual deviant.

 

[Ravi]

Would Bobby hold firm in support of slavery?

 

[Political Junky]

I don't understand why people are so scared of two males or females getting married, unless you're a religious nut or homophobic bigot.

You mean like the Islamists? Scared? scared of what? I notice there aren't too many "gay marriages" within ISIS, are there? Looks like your disagreement is with them, right?

The Right wants to be more like ISIS.