Black American who criticized the US involvement in Ukraine is facing 10 years in prison.- Is a 1984 type Society what Democrats want?

[Harpy Eagle]

You usually provide some original thought but you’re acting like a robot in this thread with no original thought man. Just like the 1984 society just like the film V for vendetta you are programmed robot in this thread without any original thought. Give us your opinion on the matter

I gave you my opinion, if the Biden's are illegally taking money from China lock them the fuck up.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

I gave you my opinion, if the Biden's are illegally taking money from China lock them the fuck up.

OK but this black socialist man described in the original post is not a government agent and he’s facing 10 years in prison. That is an attack on free-speech what do you think about that buddy?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

OK but this black socialist man described in the original post is not a government agent and he’s facing 10 years in prison. That is an attack on free-speech what do you think about that buddy?

I am confused as hell what his skin color has to do with anything...but that aside I am not sure I really have any problem with someone working directly for a foreign government being required to register as such.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

I am confused as hell what his skin color has to do with anything...but that aside I am not sure I really have any problem with someone working directly for a foreign government being required to register as such.

He’s a black socialist it just goes to show that the Democrats don’t mind going after one of their own. So the law says that a government agent in America has to register that he is getting paid by a foreign government, doesn’t say anything about a private American citizen having to do so. What about all of those Americans who get paid money by Catholic organizations or Israel to represent their cause. I mean who cares man why do they have to register and what does that even mean and what difference does it make if they have to register as a foreign agent or not? That should only apply to government workers my friend…. meaning if an American as an employee of the federal government or the US government and they are getting paid money by a foreign country yes I agree with you they have to register, but a private citizen I don’t think so.

We’re not at war with Russia. When Israel goes to war in Gaza it means Israel is at war with Palestinians. When Israel invaded Lebanon they were at war with Lebanon. And yet continued on that they were all sorts of people in America supporting Israel which is their right ….I might disagree with them but it is there God-given right to support Israel in a free country like America.

 

[miketx]

To note, one person is never plural.

They are if they have multiple personalities. Like leftist stooges do.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

So what is the actual law here can a American citizen who is not a government official except money from Israel, except money from a Catholic organization, except money from Russia to speak on their behalf. Or maybe those types of Americans already supported Israel they already supported Russia and they also take money from organizations affiliated with Israel or Russia. Is that actually a crime according to the laws of America yes or no?

Any of the far left people on this thread have an answer for this? Do they think that it’s OK for A man to languish in jail for 10 years for using his speech to say he supports Russia? . What a disgusting bunch of far left wing Americans we have. Waving their Ukrainian flag like animals well actually there below animals nobody here should insult animals

 

[Harpy Eagle]

He’s a black socialist it just goes to show that the Democrats don’t mind going after one of their own.

I am not black, a Dem nor a socialist, thus I am not going after my own.

So the law says that a government agent in America has to register that he is getting paid by a foreign government, doesn’t say anything about a private American citizen having to do so.

That private citizen is acting an agent for the foreign government. Thus they have to register.

What about all of those Americans who get paid money by Catholic organizations

Catholic organizations are not a foreign government

Israel to represent their cause.

They should also register.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

You got a wonder if the Ukraine propaganda machine had anything to do with this. Of course they have asked the United States government to censor Americans like Tucker Carlson and Colonel Douglas Macgregor like the creatures that they are… The authoritarians Nazis of Ukraine can go to hell. To think that in World War II we fought against those types of people and now they’re trying to tell us what to do ….to hell with them they can’t control our free-speech.

 

[pknopp]

Any of the far left people on this thread have an answer for this? Do they think that it’s OK for A man to languish in jail for 10 years for using his speech to say he supports Russia? .

Who has done that?

What a disgusting bunch of far left wing Americans we have. Waving their Ukrainian flag like animals well actually there below animals nobody here should insult animals

I don't support what we have done in Ukraine.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

I am not black, a Dem nor a socialist, thus I am not going after my own.



That private citizen is acting an agent for the foreign government. Thus they have to register.



Catholic organizations are not a foreign government



They should also register.

No I don’t think that you’re right on the important part. OK I get it you’re not a Democrat I’m talking about the Democrats in the justice system who are going after their own. Yeah they claim to support Black people doesn’t look like they do.

Cite the law that says that a private American citizen has the register as a foreign agent if they are getting paid by a foreign government or foreign entity. Please cite the source site the law because I don’t think that you’re right about this. I believe that they actually have to be a government agent which this man described in the original post, a black socialist is a private citizen he’s not a government worker.

And who cares man, who cares who he is paid by ….we Americans have a brain to use and we can agree with him or not agree with him.

Well any Catholic organization that is paying people money in America to speak on behalf of the Vatican which is a separate entity it is a recognized country it is a recognized entity they are working on behalf of the Vatican. So the same thing applies here and who cares again!!!!

Who cares. Who cares who they’re being paid by we can look at what they’re saying and agree with it or not and use the God-given brains we have.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I think they're shooting for sodom and gomorrah type society.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Cite the law that says that a private American citizen has the register as a foreign agent if they are getting paid by a foreign government or foreign entity. Please say the source site the law because I don’t think that you’re right about this. I believe that they actually have to be a government agent watch this man described in the original poster black socialist is a private citizen he’s not a government worker.

Here is the indictment., It list all the laws the Govt say were broken.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22123394/ionov-indictment.pdf

 

[AMart]

Ironically what the Feds accuse these people of our own government does every day. Meddling in elections, regime change, aid money with strings attached etc.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Ironically what the Feds accuse these people of our own government does every day. Meddling in elections, regime change, aid money with strings attached etc.

We have always been a "do as I say, not as I do" country.

 

[BlindBoo]

OK so ? . What do you think about the situation. This guy is not a government agent and he’s been being faced with 10 years in prison.

“ weoponizing the first amendment”

What does that mean, what kind of a joke statement is that from the United States government who the heck do they think they are. ? This is a free country with freedom of speech, freedom of thought.

Who cares man who cares who is paying him. We as Americans can listen to what he says and agree with him or disagreed with him. You know we have a right in America to support Russia or to support Ukraine. As long as you’re not a congressman and a senator or a government official you can also be paid by foreign groups and then speak your mind. So what do you think about Americans were paid by Israeli organizations or by Catholic organizations to speak on behalf of those organizations?

That would be using our freedoms against us to subvert the government of we the people. There are laws against foreign nationals interfering in our elections as well there should be. Anyone caught not following the laws, regardless of nationality, should be subject to those laws. My guess is that the Israelis and the Catholics are smart enough to follow the laws and that Russians and their sympathizers are not. Let them have their day in court.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

That would be using our freedoms against us to subvert the government of we the people. There are laws against foreign nationals interfering in our elections as well there should be. Anyone caught not following the laws, regardless of nationality, should be subject to those laws. My guess is that the Israelis and the Catholics are smart enough to follow the laws and that Russians and their sympathizers are not. Let them have their day in court.

I’m sorry sir but can you specifically cite the law that says that a private citizen cannot accept money from Israel or from Russia to promote their agenda?. And who cares man me and you have the ability to think about what anyone says no matter who they’re paid by.

I believe that the department of justice has lost it. They are not what they used to be. We have the protection of the first amendment sir. The black socialist featured in the original post is not a government agent so the law is not applicable to him unless you can cite a law that says a private citizen cannot accept money from a foreign country to promote their agenda. By the way the man featured in the original post denies getting paid money by Russia.

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

Here is the indictment., It list all the laws the Govt say were broken.

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/22123394/ionov-indictment.pdf

No my friend I’m asking you to cite the law that says a private citizen cannot accept money from a foreign government to promote their agenda.

I’m asking you to think for yourself and not be a robot.

 

[BlindBoo]

Any of the far left people on this thread have an answer for this? Do they think that it’s OK for A man to languish in jail for 10 years for using his speech to say he supports Russia? . What a disgusting bunch of far left wing Americans we have. Waving their Ukrainian flag like animals well actually there below animals nobody here should insult animals

Do you really think the only thing they are charging the group with is simply saying they support Russia's invasion of the Ukraine? NFL.

Disgusting bunch? Flag waving animals? Scratch that, below animals?

Russian Gutter politics?

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

I don’t know what the specific law here is which is why I’m asking fellow posters and there should be one of them considering there’s thousands of posters on this board who knows whether or not a private American citizen can get paid by a foreign government or foreign entity to promote their agenda. I am aware that a government worker like for example a Congress person or a senator must register if they are paid foreign agent or if they’re getting paid by a foreign country to promote their agenda and we certainly have a lot of Democrats and Republicans promoting Israel’s agenda so what the heck is going on here

 

[FranklinRoosevelt_FTW]

Do you really think the only thing they are charging the group with is simply saying they support Russia's invasion of the Ukraine? NFL.

Disgusting bunch? Flag waving animals? Scratch that, below animals?

Russian Gutter politics?

The NPR link said that the man is being charged because he did not register as a foreign agent. But the man is not a part of US government he’s a private citizen. So I’ll I’ll ask again what law is being broken here. Where is the law that says a private citizen hast to register if he’s getting paid by Israel by Russia buy the Vatican by Japan you name it.