Bipartisan Agreement That Stimulus Program Worked--GOP Issa & Biden Agree!

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    The Stimulus that failed so many of the Party of Abraham Lincoln has not been able to escape the scruitiny of House Government Oversight Committee Chairman, Rep Issa, from CA.

    Being a California Republican CongressRep, most of the GOP can point with scorn to Issa's new plan of monitoring federal programs--based on the Recovery website--as after all, among the last suggestions of a dying breed--A California GOP elected Official. I myself am related to a famous California cemetery, founding family. Even Bush II, Terms I and II, can spot a rational Texas family, who fled after 1865.

    Business is business, anyore! My own father was among the first to sell cars on TV--in league with Haldeman's dad.

    Biden, GOP announce spending watchdog plans (6/13/11) -- GovExec.com

    Now both Vice President Biden, and GOP Rep. D. Issa, have found a way to curtail waste and fraud in government: Such as the missing $6.6 bil., in Iraq. Anyone with GOP around, even famous actor John Wilkes Booth: Would likely have enough to keep his hands, and pockets, and pillow cases, and mattresses--and tie and tails, full: And even all at the same time.

    Recovery.org had a website able to track federal spending. That seems to have created bipartisan concurrence on something to do. Now both sides agree that something can be done, and clearly with a nod to the Obama Liberals, stimulus program.

    "Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
    (Many nations find new uses for $6.6 bil.: From whatever source derived! Many syndicates likely got there first, and maybe SPECTRE, friend of Blofeld--and Writers Guild! Many now go to New Hampshire: To Seek New Non-Negro Dialect!)
     
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    This week's Time Magazine disagrees:

    What U.S. Economic Recovery? Five Destructive Myths - TIME

    Goolsbee admits that the government can't fix it:

     
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    Just because those two knuckleheads agree to something doesn't make it true, unemployment numbers and the amount of people filing for unemployment benefits speaks for itself. Also, if Biden said it's true, there is your first hint not to believe it. And Issa realizes that if he doesn't start pandering to the left in Cali that his career will end, that's not very hard to figure out coming from him being in California. If he does not hold true to conservatism his career is over, if he does his career is over. We can chalk him up as a loss but not really a big loss, we would be losing one GOP moderate for a Democrat Moderate at most.
     
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    The editors of Time Magazine can create five myths based on virtually no data whatsoever. Their counterpart is FOXTVNightlyNothingNewAtAll!

    Here is the gist of the linked Time article:

    "Myth No. 1: This is a temporary blip, and then it's full steam ahead.

    True, only 12.2% of economists surveyed in the past few days by the Philadelphia Fed believe that the current backsliding will develop into a double-dip recession (though that percentage is up significantly from the start of the year). . . ."

    "Avoiding a double dip is not the same as creating growth that's strong enough to revive the job market."

    (Actually, Payroll data have to be collected from reporting businesses. 1099's are different. Anything new gets initially under-reported, but is in the household survey.)

    "In fact, there's an unfortunate snowball effect with growth and employment when they are weak. It used to take roughly six months for the U.S. to get back to a normal employment picture after a recession; the McKinsey Global Institute estimates it will take five years this time around."

    (So Time Creates The Fiction Of A "snowball" sliding uphill!)

    "That lingering unemployment cuts GDP growth by reducing consumer demand, which in turn makes it harder to create jobs. We would need to create 187,000 jobs a month, growing at a rate of 3.3%, to get to a healthy 5% unemployment rate by 2020. At the current rate of growth and job creation, we would maybe get halfway there by that time."

    There is nothing that denies that the recovery has happened, and is under way: In any article, anywhere at all.

    Then compare with 1932. 25% unemployment was only what got reported. The various Hoovervilles, and transients by the trainful, were likely not a part of the count. 8% unemployment was in range, and that was eight years later, and maybe undercounted, even then.

    The Democrat's recovery was, however, under underway.

    "Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
    (Many not spending need new incentive. What is a Great Half-Wit Father In Washington to do--With $6.6 bil. cash right away! Famous "Committee To Re-Elect President," maybe had needed skills for that(?)! "Smoke 'Em If You Got 'Em," maybe not!)
     
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    Dude... you're one fucked up puppy.
     
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    Notice how deflection and sarcasm surround addressing only one of the 5 myths mentioned?
    Not that he got that one right, either.....jus' saying
    :cuckoo:
     
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    Why would it matter to the left what Ca. republican Issa says? Is the left so desperate that they think a quote from a republican can change the facts that are evident in the stimulous disaster that Obama and the democrats created? Issa's state is bankrupt to the point of releasing monsters back into society because the prisons are overcrowded. Issa's constituents are in danger because every politician in California looked the other way for decades while the golden state was dying under federal regulations, bureaucratic crap and illegal immigration.
     
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    yes, a stimulus will always fail because it can only cause a temporary bubble that will misallocate resources and then burst causing a recession until the free market then reallocates resources to their proper places causing the economy to recover.
     
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    The United States Unemployment Rate By Year

    Unemployment by Year and "Trajectory"

    1981 7.62% "The Reagan Trajectory"
    1982 9.71% "The Reagan Trajectory"
    1983 9.60% "The Reagan Trajectory"

    The Real Economy of, "The First African American President In History:"

    1998 4.50% "The First African American President In History!"
    1999 4.22% "Ending The Gangland Murders Atrocities"
    2000 3.97% "Four Full Years--And No John Wilkes Booth Around!"

    This starts the "Great Recession" Below:

    2008 7.60% This is Still Bush, Who Caused The Crash, GOP Intended!

    The halts the slide, below--which has happened before:

    2009 9.26% "Back To The Reagan Trajectory, Just Like Then! (Obama)
    2010 9.64% "Back To the Reagan Trajectory, Just Like Then!" (Obama)

    In the GOP tradition of uneven treatment for peoples, the first three years of Reagan are being compared to only the first two years of Obama.

    See the corresponding recoveries, compared to what real African Americans(?) are alleged to do!

    "Crow, James Crow: Shaken, Not Stirred!"
    (Many Squaws come to Lands of Many Nations: Maybe with the $6.6 bil. cash, of our cornucopia models!)
     
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    Herman Cain described the left best when it comes to arguing or debating, he uses the acronym "SIN" to describe them:
    The left....
    1) Shift the subject
    2) Ignore the facts
    3) Name call

    Pretty much sums them up.
     

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