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CaféAuLait;1463968 said:
So I guess it's unimportant to you people, who are at this moment communicating via computer, that in the event of a cyber threat that had the potential to shut down the entire global network, causing banks/markets/life support systems/etc., to simultaneously crash, is a baaaaaaad thing. Interesting.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04321.pdf
barack obama CNE
yeah, i have a small problem with giving govt a stranglehold on comms.
go figure.
Not quite, robots have some individuality, thinking more like pod people at this stage.
Actually Kitten does make a good point, bush tried this and the liberals flipped out. Not that the liberals posting in this thread were the same ones flipping out about bush, i dont know if they were or not. However the liberal media did. And now no one in the media has really complained about obama taking it even further.
You are actually acting like the robots in this specific instance, sorry to be the jerk and point it out but that is what it looks like to me.
I'm complaining about this one to.
Anything that risks losing the last truly free medium to government control angers me. We lost cable, and I know none of the Linux programmers will go down without a fight on this one, a serious fight. They worry about what gun nuts can do, they really need to worry about us "masked" programmers who don't have any major ties. If they try to fuck with the net, it won't be pretty, considering it was us "uneducated moron" techies who perfected the machines and software, their "educumated" techies are just reusing our work.
So I guess it's unimportant to you people, who are at this moment communicating via computer, that in the event of a cyber threat that had the potential to shut down the entire global network, causing banks/markets/life support systems/etc., to simultaneously crash, is a baaaaaaad thing. Interesting.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04321.pdf
barack obama CNE
yeah, i have a small problem with giving govt a stranglehold on comms.
go figure.
don't you remember when the libtards screamed " those who are willing to trade freedom for security get neither"? boy howdy,, the times they are a changing..
Actually Kitten does make a good point, bush tried this and the liberals flipped out. Not that the liberals posting in this thread were the same ones flipping out about bush, i dont know if they were or not. However the liberal media did. And now no one in the media has really complained about obama taking it even further.
You are actually acting like the robots in this specific instance, sorry to be the jerk and point it out but that is what it looks like to me.
I'm complaining about this one to.
Anything that risks losing the last truly free medium to government control angers me. We lost cable, and I know none of the Linux programmers will go down without a fight on this one, a serious fight. They worry about what gun nuts can do, they really need to worry about us "masked" programmers who don't have any major ties. If they try to fuck with the net, it won't be pretty, considering it was us "uneducated moron" techies who perfected the machines and software, their "educumated" techies are just reusing our work.
And there ya go. You just made the case why it might be necessary.
Here's more reasons:
Hacker Journals
CaféAuLait;1463968 said:
I will go an verify before i say much more but.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! If you cant control the message control the medium?
That's the power this new version will give, pretty much. Makes me more glad that my personal server is in the UK.
So I guess it's unimportant to you people, who are at this moment communicating via computer, that in the event of a cyber threat that had the potential to shut down the entire global network, causing banks/markets/life support systems/etc., to simultaneously crash, is a baaaaaaad thing. Interesting.
http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d04321.pdf
barack obama CNE
yeah, i have a small problem with giving govt a stranglehold on comms.
go figure.
I find it funny that she thinks there is even a chance that everything can "simultaneously crash" ... that almost made me laugh.
I will go an verify before i say much more but.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! If you cant control the message control the medium?
That's the power this new version will give, pretty much. Makes me more glad that my personal server is in the UK.
And I thought The UK was the 51st State.
I'd just hit your BIOS and tell it your CPU was overheating. Ooops!! Instant shut down. No Unix, No Linux, hit the motherboard and poof.*
*Theoretically, that is.
barack obama CNE
yeah, i have a small problem with giving govt a stranglehold on comms.
go figure.
I agree it is very worrisome because as we know with such ultimate power also comes the abuse of power, which is the real troublesome part of this type of thing. I'm not sure how else to protect ourselves though.
Actually, I could help them protect their systems ... I could, but I won't. Someone else with the complete knowledge of how the technology works instead of specialists probably would though. They just need to stop only using elitists. Really there are a few easily pin pointed flaws in their systems, and it wouldn't cost a dime to fix those, other than labor. However, and here's what the blind followers are missing, they are not interested in increasing security.
barack obama CNE
yeah, i have a small problem with giving govt a stranglehold on comms.
go figure.
I find it funny that she thinks there is even a chance that everything can "simultaneously crash" ... that almost made me laugh.
Well...thanks to YOU spilling the beans to non-pros like me, we now know that yaw'll will be the sole survivors. I can see it now--IMing and texting each other like crazy screaming HALLELEULA!!! WE WON!!!
CaféAuLait;1463968 said:
I will go an verify before i say much more but.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! If you cant control the message control the medium?
That's the power this new version will give, pretty much. Makes me more glad that my personal server is in the UK.
Gee... remember how the world was coming to an end because some nitwit actually thought Dick Cheney & Bush were reading their mail? Ahhh.. the good old days.
I will go an verify before i say much more but.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! If you cant control the message control the medium?
That's the power this new version will give, pretty much. Makes me more glad that my personal server is in the UK.
how does that help when your ISP is located here? if your ISP is here....you will still be controlled and all info passes through your ISP...isn't that right?
KK,
And because of the Cap and trade bill what makes you think that Phones will not be very expensive therefore no internet connection?
One question keeps popping into my head and that is "If someone wanted to take over a large Country what would be the process"? Military, communication, financial and what else?
What Plymco said ... to your second question.
As for the first, that is another grave possibility. I shudder to think just how far he will reach. As I said, he is creating two specific groups in the country, much like the North versus the South, it will be Pod People verses the rest of us.
The more I learn, the more all these so called crazy Conspiracy theories are not so crazy. Does anyone think 2010 doesn't seem to matter to the WH and Congress?
That's the strange part. The line between conspiracy theory and justified paranoia blurs when you learn too much. There is one tell, conspiracy theories (the nutjob ones) tend to have no meaning, rhyme, or reason. We know that computer systems can be hacked, hell, I've done it in the past myself, and we know virus' exist and can be improved, done that in the past as well. We also know the government is trying to gain more control right now, so it's not a stretch, it's very possible they will go after computers. Microsucks is even working to eliminate personal computers altogether, offering just a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, your files are stored online on their servers. Luckily there isn't any interest, and hopefully the more educated people get the more resistant they will be to this idea. I don't believe innocent people have anything to hide, but I also know that your work is your own until you choose to release it to the public.
I mentioned months ago that it was odd that there are no longer any ugly pics of Chelsea Clinton to be found on the internet.
I also mentioned it was the intent of Obama to shut down opposition by limiting, or eliminating, freedom of speech.
Per usual, I was 100 percent correct.
That's the power this new version will give, pretty much. Makes me more glad that my personal server is in the UK.
how does that help when your ISP is located here? if your ISP is here....you will still be controlled and all info passes through your ISP...isn't that right?
Um ... huh? My web host is where I put all my internet files, I got it specifically because it had the software and OS I wanted at a low price ... what does my ISP have to do with keeping my website on a truly secure server instead of a government run Windoze server?
The more I learn, the more all these so called crazy Conspiracy theories are not so crazy. Does anyone think 2010 doesn't seem to matter to the WH and Congress?
That's the strange part. The line between conspiracy theory and justified paranoia blurs when you learn too much. There is one tell, conspiracy theories (the nutjob ones) tend to have no meaning, rhyme, or reason. We know that computer systems can be hacked, hell, I've done it in the past myself, and we know virus' exist and can be improved, done that in the past as well. We also know the government is trying to gain more control right now, so it's not a stretch, it's very possible they will go after computers. Microsucks is even working to eliminate personal computers altogether, offering just a monitor, keyboard, and mouse, your files are stored online on their servers. Luckily there isn't any interest, and hopefully the more educated people get the more resistant they will be to this idea. I don't believe innocent people have anything to hide, but I also know that your work is your own until you choose to release it to the public.
Wow, I'm learning what a real sweetheart you are. I'm smacking my head ever thinking you had an ounce of humanity in you. Unfortunately for the rest of us, people like you are part of the problem, not the solution.
OK
1. How is this more ominous than the president's ability to declare "Martial Law"
2. This is a matter of national defense, several countries have already launched test mass-attacks against our country's administration and infrastruture through the internet.
3. If you people knew what could be accomplished through a massive "cyber-attack" you would not complain about this at all.
and
4. What does this matter? The previous administration has already given the federal government the ability to monitor your data communications and shut down whatever they want if they feel the situation warrants such actions, like if they claim you're engaging in terror-related activity, for instance.
Of course no-one on the right complained about it then. LOL.
1. .... are you serious?
2. So, forcing privately owned and operated servers to use a specific (and highly insecure) software protects the country how?
3. "Massive cyber-attack" ... um yeah ... you know ... well nothing about the internet.
4. Bush took out the internet clause because he knew programmers (like me) would seriously hurt them if they didn't.
