Biggest welfare scam ever.....disability claims!!

[RetiredGySgt]

First let's get rid of foreign aid. If you haven't paid US taxes you don't deserve money from those who have.

Good idea, but how about starting with a conservative congress who's taken more vacation than actual working days, who whine about ACA, but gets it at our expense, who gets a 6 figure check and does nothing for it, who get all the perks and benefits of their office, but doesn't earn....PLEASE LEARN TO PICK YOUR BATTLES...FOREIGN AIDE ISN'T IT.

Liar, but you keep on proving you are a racist piece of shit.

 

[tigerred59]

First let's get rid of foreign aid. If you haven't paid US taxes you don't deserve money from those who have.

Good idea, but how about starting with a conservative congress who's taken more vacation than actual working days, who whine about ACA, but gets it at our expense, who gets a 6 figure check and does nothing for it, who get all the perks and benefits of their office, but doesn't earn....PLEASE LEARN TO PICK YOUR BATTLES...FOREIGN AIDE ISN'T IT.

Liar, but you keep on proving you are a racist piece of shit.

(sigh)....one thing is certain, you can't penetrate concrete...you people are hopeless....now I know how Hitler got ahead....he was dealing with white people....LOLOLOL...bye trash can...your race is hopeless.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Then we have those women who demand to be paid for having babies when they have never paid into the system. Cut that off.

 

[Care4all]

This is the sort of cut a businessman would make. If Trump runs America like a business, look for major cuts in spending. He will set the budget back to 2012 level and then cut spending by 1% every year for 6 years. Sont tell me the government can't cut spending by 1% every year.

FYI-
2012's spending level was about the same as 2015's spending so cutting it to 2012 spending level is virtually not cutting it at all...

 

[candycorn]

First let's get rid of foreign aid. If you haven't paid US taxes you don't deserve money from those who have.

Terrible idea.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Biggest welfare scam ever.....disability claims!!"

lol

Ignorant nonsense.

SSDI is not ‘welfare.’

 

[Katzndogz]

Social Security disability is just another scam. It is designed to pay the healthy slackers while encouraging the truly sick and disabled to die.

Adding to the disgusting mix are parents imagining or encouraging their children to have a mental disability to get that crazy check.

Meanwhile cancer patients die in alleys. SSI needs a total overhaul.

 

[candycorn]

Good stuf there tiger. It was touched on about 3 years ago:

If you want to be angered...

Obama has done nothing about it.

I urge anyone who cares about this mushrooming problem to give a listen to This American Life episode.

490: Trends With Benefits

It will make your blood boil.

See, if Trump were not a disgusting individual and would have pledged to fix things like this; I would be happy to vote for him. But obviously, he can't be trusted (or liked for that matter).

Without getting too far in the weeds about the episode--again I urge you to listen to it on your phone or tablet in the background while you're working out or making dinner; you wont' believe your ears--

But without getting too far into the weeds (and remember I heard it 3 years ago so I stand to be corrected) If the butcher, the baker and the candlestick maker all file for social security disability, 2 of the 3 are not getting it. Lets say the Butcher and the Baker are left out in the cold. Both the butcher and the baker file an appeal. There is a 60% chance that they will get it if they have representation (think daytime television lawyer commericals--BInder and Binder being one large firm that does nothing but this sort of work).

Here is the kicker: At the hearing, there are 3 entities in the room. The Social Security Administration who denied the claim, the Judge who is hearing the appeal, and either the Butcher or the Baker. Those are the entities. Often though, there are only 2 people in the room. The judge and the Butcher or the Baker. The government sends nobody to argue that the Butcher or Baker is not actually disabled and they are playing the system.

Outrageous.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg about people who end up on the SS Disability.

Anyway, give it a listen.

 

[EverCurious]

Social Security disability is just another scam. It is designed to pay the healthy slackers while encouraging the truly sick and disabled to die.

Adding to the disgusting mix are parents imagining or encouraging their children to have a mental disability to get that crazy check.

Meanwhile cancer patients die in alleys. SSI needs a total overhaul.

EH I'll give SS is a scam, but it wasn't intended to be. It was supposed to be a helping hand and all... but we didn't expect it to go to the government, ya know, we thought it was gonna be for the people who paid into it. And that's what we get for trusting politicians...

 

[candycorn]

Social Security disability is just another scam. It is designed to pay the healthy slackers while encouraging the truly sick and disabled to die.

Adding to the disgusting mix are parents imagining or encouraging their children to have a mental disability to get that crazy check.

Meanwhile cancer patients die in alleys. SSI needs a total overhaul.

EH I'll give SS is a scam, but it wasn't intended to be. It was supposed to be a helping hand and all... but we didn't expect it to go to the government, ya know, we thought it was gonna be for the people who paid into it. And that's what we get for trusting politicians...

Pols did nothing but leave it the way it was. People are taking advantage.

 

[candycorn]

Social Security disability is just another scam. It is designed to pay the healthy slackers while encouraging the truly sick and disabled to die.

Adding to the disgusting mix are parents imagining or encouraging their children to have a mental disability to get that crazy check.

Meanwhile cancer patients die in alleys. SSI needs a total overhaul.

Nonsense. Almost all who want it, get on it either through the original application or appeals

 

[candycorn]

"Biggest welfare scam ever.....disability claims!!"

lol

Ignorant nonsense.

SSDI is not ‘welfare.’

In this sense, it's welfare

 

[blastoff]

Yeah but......you got some 25yr old with "back pain & depression" he ain't paid crap into SSI. OP is right. Need massive cleanup, look at increase since 2008. You tell me more getting hurt now than 70s'? Bullhockey. Should be less due to massive safety regs

The female that confronted Obama back when he was running for president, some tea party nut that supposedly the leader of the movement back then...this bitch was on disability and fussing to the guy for limited gov....couldn't make that shit up on my best fuckin day. And the only reason congress and politicians DON'T TACKLE THE SUBJECT, BUT INSTEAD FOCUS ON WELFARE.......IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT HALF THEIR SUPPORT BASE IS NOT ONLY ON IT....BUT BECAUSE ITS WHITE PEOPLE THE DOMINATE THE CLAIMS AND ITS MUCH EASIER TO ATTACK WELFARE WHERE MINORITIES DOMINATE IT.

When I read your tripe I nearly get giddy over my whiteness and pleased you're left to wallow in your nigganess.

Also, spend less time in here and more working towards that GED so you'll be able to hopefully communicate better. LOL...you know I'm write.

 

[Katzndogz]

Social Security disability is just another scam. It is designed to pay the healthy slackers while encouraging the truly sick and disabled to die.

Adding to the disgusting mix are parents imagining or encouraging their children to have a mental disability to get that crazy check.

Meanwhile cancer patients die in alleys. SSI needs a total overhaul.

Nonsense. Almost all who want it, get on it either through the original application or appeals

Very true. If they live through the appeals process everyone will get on. The sickest usually don' t live that long.

 

[WillowTree]

Social Security Administration Seeks Shortcut Through Massive Disability Backlog
Some worry the new policy could cause claimants to miss out on a fair hearing.

“With over 1.1 million people waiting for a hearing decision, we are in the midst of a public service crisis,” SSA spokesman Mark Hinkle said in an email. “For some people this results in a wait of over 17 months to receive a hearing decision, which we concede is unacceptable service.”

If someone can’t keep working because of a serious illness or injury, that person can apply for monthly benefits under the Social Security Disability Insurance program. Nearly 9 million disabled Americans receive federal disability benefits, which average $1,022 per month.


I have yet to see one person with a true disability get out of handicap parking space and not walk talk and move like the rest of us. Both my nieghbors, both WHITE, he and wife get a disability check, yet they drive, walk, do shit just like everybody else and they're on disability. I have an entire street, with just handicap parking signs on it...all white and yet I've yet to anyone with a true disability. Soldiers are coming back from these wars, and all of them are claiming some sort of disability...grant it, its okay.....but for the rest of their lives??????? 60Minutes did a expose' on this very topic and guess who tops the list?????Uhmmmm, white people in the south!!

Well, blame Obama. After he extended unemployment for a 100 months and the people still could not find a job ( yeah right) then he allowed them to get SS disability checks. They were not disable just lazy and unemployed. Democrats are really stupid people.

 

[EverCurious]

I'm curious how much SSDI pays out now. Ya know my husband hit a moose on the highway 3-4 years ago, then it healed wrong (cause dumbass went back to work three days later) so they had to re-break it or w/e. Now he can't do his RV mechanic'ing very well. The company he works for put him on the counter as a service writer (and they're just loving the shit out of it cause he basically gives the other mechanics a list of what to fix, vs a service writer who didn't have his mechanical experience - they were actually able to hire two trainee mechanics because of it, but I digress) Not that I think I could get Mr Work-a-holic to stay home with me and work on my honey do list, I just wonder what it pays out.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Vote R Tiger, they hate welfare, JS

Why would I vote for a party, who in my opinion are the biggest welfare recipients in the country? Between corporate welfare and the freebies them motherfuckers get on the hill and not have to work for it? How many weeks vacation does your job provide? Thus far, them bastards have taken more vacations than actual working days, so....why prey tell would I support a party like this?

your party aint no different....or have you decided they suck too?.......

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'd be happy to ditch /all/ welfare and social safety net programs. Lets do it, make people fucking plan for their own gd futures instead of relying on everyone else. We're not a country anymore anyway with open borders so fuck it, lets go back to every man for themselves.

Lets go back to every man for themselves? When did it stop????? Did I blink and miss it?

... don't play stupid honey.

"Not including Social Security and Medicare, Congress allocated almost $717 billion in federal funds in 2010 plus $210 billion was allocated in state funds ($927 billion total) for means tested welfare programs in the United States, of which half was for medical care and roughly 40% for cash, food and housing assistance. Some of these programs include funding for public schools, job training, SSI benefits and medicaid.[2] As of 2011, the public social spending-to-GDP ratio in the United States was below the OECD average.[3] Roughly half of this welfare assistance, or $462 billion went to families with children, most of which are headed by single parents.[4]

Total Social Security and Medicare expenditures in 2013 were $1.3 trillion, 8.4% of the $16.3 trillion GNP (2013) and 37% of the total Federal expenditure budget of $3.684 trillion.[5][6]

In addition to government expenditures, private welfare spending, i.e. social insurance programs provided to workers by employers,[7] in the United States is estimated to be about 10% of the U.S. GDP or another $1.6 trillion, according to 2013 OECD estimates.[8] In 2001, Jacob Hacker estimated that public and private social welfare expenditures constituted 21% and 13-14% of the United States' GDP respectively. In these estimates of private social welfare expenditures, Hacker included mandatory private provisions (less than 1% of GDP), subsidized and/or regulated private provisions (9-10% of GDP), and purely private provisions (3-4% of GDP).[9]"

In a 2011 article, Forbes reported, "The best estimate of the cost of the 185 federal means tested welfare programs for 2010 for the federal government alone is $717 billion, up a third since 2008, according to the Heritage Foundation. Counting state spending of about $210 billion, total welfare spending for 2010 reached over $920 billion, up nearly one-fourth since 2008 (24.3%)"—and increasing fast.[45] The previous decade had seen a 60% decrease in the number of people receiving welfare benefits,[15] beginning with the passage of the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act, but spending did not decrease proportionally during that time period. Combined annual federal and state spending is the equivalent of over $21,000 for every person living below poverty level in America.[46]

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And you know that shits higher today then it was in 2010.

I'm for getting rid of all that crap and cutting almost a trillion dollars off the budget.

Could you please show me one post, one anything you posted here, while Bush was in office....voicing your concerns of federal spending....if not then fuck off!!

neither one of you were here when bush was in office....

 

[candycorn]

Social Security disability is just another scam. It is designed to pay the healthy slackers while encouraging the truly sick and disabled to die.

Adding to the disgusting mix are parents imagining or encouraging their children to have a mental disability to get that crazy check.

Meanwhile cancer patients die in alleys. SSI needs a total overhaul.

Nonsense. Almost all who want it, get on it either through the original application or appeals

Very true. If they live through the appeals process everyone will get on. The sickest usually don' t live that long.

Its splitting hairs, I know, but disability is just that; a disability. If you’re on your deathbed an filing for disability, you’re an idiot. You file for that long before your disability results in that sort of infirmary. Some people have a very short time between the two, I know but those are not that common.

Still, your point stands; millions who are on it shouldn’t be on it. They are on it because they’ve exhausted their unemployment, burned through their savings, or what have you.

 

[tigerred59]

"Biggest welfare scam ever.....disability claims!!"

lol

Ignorant nonsense.

SSDI is not ‘welfare.’

YES it is.....go to L.A's skid row someday......its drunks, drug users and mentally people getting checks...and lazy white people....most worked about a year or so in their intire lives.