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Hey.........Lone Idiot No Logic........take the sights off of your rifle, then try to shoot something 25 yards away from you and hit it.
Like I said, stay away from guns and sharp things, you'll only hurt yourself.
Things don't need to go over your head Lone Idiot No Logic, it takes a shortcut through your ears as there is nothing between 'em to stop anything.
By the way penis puffer, lemmie ask something of you........how the fuck do you even have the remotest clue about what the military does or does not need? Ever served? Oh wait.....that's right........you were a pussy assed college puke that thought fucking cattle would be better than defending this country. You're right......my bad.......apparently some queer assed cow humper knows what's better for military personnel than a 20 year veteran who has served honorably as well as has several awards, 3 of which are Navy Achievement Medals awarded by no less than an Admiral EACH.
But.......I digress...........
Apparently, from what I'd seen on the article, the numbers are stamped/engraved on the side of the sight. It's not necessary for the integrity of the sight, nor is not putting anything on it in any way, shape or form, detrimental to the performance of the weapon.
Oh yeah......rifle sights DO kill people, as without the sight, it's very hard to make sure you hit your target. Might wanna get another vocation that doesn't involve guns as you obviously don't know much about them.
Stay away from sharp objects as well. You'll hurt yourself.
By the way, since I'm a Taoist, as well as someone who studies Torah, how would you feel about the company stamping the sights with a yin-yang symbol that has Hebrew characters on one side with various names of God, and has the Taoist characters for war and The Way?
Sun-Tzu and his philosophy (he wrote The Art of War as well as was a Taoist) would be much more appropriate on a gun sight than bible verses, don't you think?
Matter of fact, scratch the Hebrew lettering as well. God supports creation, not death.
Know what kind of gunsight I'd like on my weapon? On in the shape of an upraised middle finger with a yin-yang symbol engraved on the back of the hand in gold.
On special occasions, I'd paint it psychedellic.
As far as the Bible verses thing in the Pentagon? You do realize that during the Bush Administration, they printed Bible verses on Pentagon briefings, right? Might be where that came from.
Pentagon Briefings Carried Bible Verses
Try again ya cow poking idiot, you're losing ground fast.
Show me one instance where a rifle sight killed anyone.
This is what you've been reduced to as an argument?
That's a pretty big rock you've been under, isn't it?☭proletarian☭;1923706 said:And when we hand these weapons of holy war against Islam to a Muslim and tell him we're his friends?No but they do have the means to remove the engravings if they deem them offensive.
Good thing this serpent isn't hanging from a branch, or they might draw the wrong conclusion.
If it's not a continuation of the Crusades, we're doing a damn good job of acting like it is.
You're assuming Christian scripture is offensive to muslims. Using that logic then Christians should be offended by muslim scripture. Do you have any evidence that muslims are offended by Christian scripture?
The VC learned that the hardway, too. The Tet offensive proved devastating for public relations.That type of mind set handed us our defeat in Vietnam.It is a serial number and a small one the only people that look at them are doing inventory. I really do not care what NUMBERS they use. Nor do I believe the military cares except for in the PC department.
Modern warfare isn't just about winning militarily.
Vietnam should have taught us that lesson.
Public opinion on both sides and the media ultimately decides who is the final Victor in modern conflicts.
And given to the local muslims we train.Many of the soldiers I work with have Bible verses hidden within their uniforms, its very important to soldiers of faith. Why would anyone care if some obscure number is etched into their weapons?
This is just an other example of the anti-religious types stirring up shit with their phoney outrage just so they can try to win another 'victory' against Christian conservatives.
Individual religious stuff is a lot different from scripture references embossed into weaposns issued by the US govt.
Not sure what you are trying to say?☭proletarian☭;1925169 said:The VC learned that the hardway, too. The Tet offensive proved devastating for public relations.That type of mind set handed us our defeat in Vietnam.It is a serial number and a small one the only people that look at them are doing inventory. I really do not care what NUMBERS they use. Nor do I believe the military cares except for in the PC department.
Modern warfare isn't just about winning militarily.
Vietnam should have taught us that lesson.
Public opinion on both sides and the media ultimately decides who is the final Victor in modern conflicts.
That's a bit like going after a fly with a shotgun, don't you think?The company should lose their military contract.
They have been doing it for some time,
Im sure they will change it to Quran quotes before to long.
You raise an interesting point...I'm quite confident that the people who consider the inscriptions inappropriate would feel that way regardless of which Holy Book the they came from. But would the people defending the company also have defended them if it was verses from the Koran? I doubt it.
The company should lose their military contract.
The company should lose their military contract.
Just the kind of IDIOCY I expected, thanks for proving me correct once again.
They are violating the general order against promoting Christianity.
And giving validation to the opposition. From the oppositions viewpoint.
They are violating the general order against promoting Christianity.
And giving validation to the opposition. From the oppositions viewpoint.
Moron, there is a reason that company is making the sights. So let me get this right? In regards armor for Hummers in Iraq you were all for stringing Bush up for not having foreseen a need for something the army never even thought of, BUT with regards the very sights that go on all our weapons you want to cut off the only source that passed the field tests? I got that about right?
all the references could be ground off and further scripture references be forbidden on any weapons.
A recall thing.
If they refuse then start finding another supplier.
all the references could be ground off and further scripture references be forbidden on any weapons.
A recall thing.
If they refuse then start finding another supplier.
Keep proving you are as stupid as you seem. You support giving our combat troops second hand equipment because you do not like a serial number.
Removing the inscription/stamping is makes it second hand equipment?
LOL in Nam I used a Colt .45 from 1940's.
Spin much do ya?
The guy/owner(? ) that started that is dead btw.
I guess god did not like what he was doing?
I knew it! You are the president of the "stupid club".
btw the new membership comittee rejected your application for membership.
We do have standards to uphold you know.
Anybody who may happen to be deployed into their lands may care, the general population considering our presence there as a crusade could prove to make a dangerous situation worse for those who serve our nation.
Anyone can make assumptions. Try supporting it with testimonies from the soldiers on the ground.
How about you try support having the verses on theer with testimony from the soldiers on the ground? These superstitious verses do not add to the combat readiness or skills they need.
How about you try support having the verses on theer with testimony from the soldiers on the ground? These superstitious verses do not add to the combat readiness or skills they need.
The burden of proof is on the one making the claims. These verses do not take away their combat readiness or the skills they need either. Now do they?
No but it sure puts them in peril if captured or if the Muslims whose hearts and minds they are trying to win decide that such messages on instruments of death are a sign that the U.S. is involved in a Jihad, doesnt take an Einstein to see something so basic.
Many of the soldiers I work with have Bible verses hidden within their uniforms, its very important to soldiers of faith. Why would anyone care if some obscure number is etched into their weapons?
This is just an other example of the anti-religious types stirring up shit with their phoney outrage just so they can try to win another 'victory' against Christian conservatives.
Choice...vs...thrust upon them.
This is starting to remind me of when military tombstones always had a Christian cross on them....whether you were Christian or not.
When was that? Seeing as how WWI and WWII crosses did not all have Christian Crosses on them? Mind backing that up with some evidence?
What it does is provide fodder for Islamic propaganda that the US is engaged in a holy war. Who the hell is a manufacturer to decide what markings go on weapons? They are paid to produce sights and thats it.
Pull their contract
Bullshit! Do you honestly think the islamic extremist needs this as a reason to engage in a holy war? Was 911 an act of jihad? Did the twin towers have scriptures etched into them? You liberals are so stupid it's comical.
Its not the extremists its the everday muslim who we rely on to operate in their countries. They provide information, allow us in their communities and support or resist the extremists.
With extremists pointing to weapons meant to kill muslims with Christian scriptures it makes it easier to operate in these countries.
Bullshit! Do you honestly think the islamic extremist needs this as a reason to engage in a holy war? Was 911 an act of jihad? Did the twin towers have scriptures etched into them? You liberals are so stupid it's comical.
Its not the extremists its the everday muslim who we rely on to operate in their countries. They provide information, allow us in their communities and support or resist the extremists.
With extremists pointing to weapons meant to kill muslims with Christian scriptures it makes it easier to operate in these countries.
Do you really suppose everyday Muslims in the Middle East get the chance to scrutinize American weapon sights closely enough to notice those engravings, even assuming they're educated enough about the Bible to realize what they were, anyway?
Even in the most distored of christian minds, I find it hard to believe that they think their god wants them to kill other people.
This makes as much sense as when we made the sign of the cross in football games to beat those dirty protestant teams.
Oh, how people have distorted the meaning religion for their own petty purposes.
if this company IS the only source, then the government should just stipulate that they change their marking system to remove the offensive references.
Just because some idiots such as yourself find bible verses offensive doesn't mean the rest of America does. But you're willing to strip these folks of their religious freedom because you don't want to be offended. I have news for you. You do not have the right to not be offended. So get over it!
You do realize the over 80 percent of Americans identify themselves as Christian.
I am not personally offended, but I understand how many might be... I understand the inappropriateness of putting bible verses from the New Testament where turn the other cheek is taught... on guns that kill.
And I am one of those 80%... in fact, I am a pastor.
