Bezerkly bans natural gas in new homes and businesses.

[mikegriffith1]

The majority of electric power comes from natural gas, coal, and oil. The wind doesn't always blow, and the sun isn't always shining. Plus, look into how solar panels are made and what they contain--they're not exactly environmentally friendly in their composition. But, don't let facts get in your way.

Natural gas burns more cleanly than oil or coal, and we have an abundance of it. So, of course, some liberals wanna stop us from using it. Silly.

 

[Dekster]

Recent KFC explosion from gas leak in NC

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

It's nice to have a choice. you can always turn off your gas valve as well, in the case of an earthquake.

Assuming it is not too late. I have natural gas heat because it is cheaper than electric and electric does not do too well once the temps get into the 20's. I really would not want that if we were in earthquakeland. In the mean time, I have had gas stoves. I do not like them. The ovens are horrible to try to bake in.

with a gas stove you can control the heat instantly while with an electric range top, the burner stays hot even after you turn it down. Plus the fact you cant see the flame makes it more likely to accidentally lay a towel on top and start a fire. If you have a convection gas stove with a fan that circulates the heat the ovens work great.

My ass. Cook something on high heat on your gas top, turn it down, and then put your hand on the grate and tell me about how instant that cool down was.

The main reason restaurants use gas is the ease of temp control.

The main reason they use gas is because it is cheaper. Gas has horrible temperature control at lower heat.

Never heard heard that in my life.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

They're retarded. Its amazing to watch them devolve in CA.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

That was never mentioned.....

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Assuming it is not too late. I have natural gas heat because it is cheaper than electric and electric does not do too well once the temps get into the 20's. I really would not want that if we were in earthquakeland. In the mean time, I have had gas stoves. I do not like them. The ovens are horrible to try to bake in.

with a gas stove you can control the heat instantly while with an electric range top, the burner stays hot even after you turn it down. Plus the fact you cant see the flame makes it more likely to accidentally lay a towel on top and start a fire. If you have a convection gas stove with a fan that circulates the heat the ovens work great.

My ass. Cook something on high heat on your gas top, turn it down, and then put your hand on the grate and tell me about how instant that cool down was.

The main reason restaurants use gas is the ease of temp control.

The main reason they use gas is because it is cheaper. Gas has horrible temperature control at lower heat.

Never heard heard that in my life.

Neither have I. Its completely bogus. They're getting dumber by the minute.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

I'd say electrical fires are more likely than gas fires.

 

[daveman]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

Ok genius, please point out where I said anything like that?

Yes, electricity is dangerous.

No, electricity can't seep into your house from a cracked main and blow it up.

Dear Diary:

Today I learned that a house that blew up from a gas leak is far more destroyed than a house that burned down from an electrical fire.

Tell me, dude...did you have this irrational hatred of gas before Berkeley told you to?

 

[Crepitus]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

That was never mentioned.....

I know. I was surprised.

 

[Crepitus]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

I'd say electrical fires are more likely than gas fires.

Why?

 

[Crepitus]

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

Ok genius, please point out where I said anything like that?

Yes, electricity is dangerous.

No, electricity can't seep into your house from a cracked main and blow it up.

Dear Diary:

Today I learned that a house that blew up from a gas leak is far more destroyed than a house that burned down from an electrical fire.

Tell me, dude...did you have this irrational hatred of gas before Berkeley told you to?

I have no irrational hatred of natural gas.

Now you tell me, were you born this stupid or do you have to practice?

 

[daveman]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

I'd say electrical fires are more likely than gas fires.

In 2007-2011, U.S. municipal fire departments responded to an estimated average of 51,600 fires per year involving ignition of flammable gas as the type of material first ignited, including 20,260 fires per year in or at homes and 31,340 fires per year in or at other properties.

From this report, in 2007-2011, there were 112,100 home electrical fires.

Electrical fires are over twice as common as gas fires.

 

[daveman]

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

Ok genius, please point out where I said anything like that?

Yes, electricity is dangerous.

No, electricity can't seep into your house from a cracked main and blow it up.

Dear Diary:

Today I learned that a house that blew up from a gas leak is far more destroyed than a house that burned down from an electrical fire.

Tell me, dude...did you have this irrational hatred of gas before Berkeley told you to?

I have no irrational hatred of natural gas.

Now you tell me, were you born this stupid or do you have to practice?

Stupid compared to what? You made a claim that reality doesn't support.

 

[daveman]

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

I'd say electrical fires are more likely than gas fires.

Why?

Because they are.

 

[Crepitus]

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

I'd say electrical fires are more likely than gas fires.

In 2007-2011, U.S. municipal fire departments responded to an estimated average of 51,600 fires per year involving ignition of flammable gas as the type of material first ignited, including 20,260 fires per year in or at homes and 31,340 fires per year in or at other properties.

From this report, in 2007-2011, there were 112,100 home electrical fires.

Electrical fires are over twice as common as gas fires.

Don't know much about earthquakes huh?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

I'd say electrical fires are more likely than gas fires.

Why?

old houses with shit wiring,overloading circuits,human error.....
At least with a gas leak you get a tell without even looking.

 

[daveman]

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

I'd say electrical fires are more likely than gas fires.

In 2007-2011, U.S. municipal fire departments responded to an estimated average of 51,600 fires per year involving ignition of flammable gas as the type of material first ignited, including 20,260 fires per year in or at homes and 31,340 fires per year in or at other properties.

From this report, in 2007-2011, there were 112,100 home electrical fires.

Electrical fires are over twice as common as gas fires.

Don't know much about earthquakes huh?

Lessee, who do I believe...the National Fire Protection Association, or a bunch of liberal morons in the most liberal city in the most liberal state who base their decisions on ideology and emotion?

Stamp your feet and pout some more. I'm THIS close to agreeing with you. No, really!

 

[Ringel05]

An electric oven is not uncommon even for people with gas cook tops. While I theoretically would have gas hot water if I could, I really wouldn't for more practical reasons--the location of the tank in my house is not a good place for a gas unit

Of course, that's always a consideration. Sometimes retrofit just isn't practical.

If my landlord had installed a line to the laundry alcove, I'd have bought a gas clothes dryer. Dryers are the single biggest consumers of electrical power.

I have a dryer and a clothesline I use weather and will permitting. This time of year, the line will dry about as fast as the dryer. Just about everyone in my subdivision I know has complained at some point about the location of their hot water heater. The developer stuck them all behind doors in small rooms/closets on the opposite ends of the houses from where most of the water gets consumed. I was going to do on-demand, but the guy who sells them said that wouldn't fix the location problem so I would need some expensive replumbing for that

Bad house design, but not much you can do about it. I'd use a clothesline, but I don't have one, and I couldn't in the spring. Everything would wind up yellow.

There are areas, mostly in Yuppivilles that don't allow clothes lines unless they're the retractable kind with restrictions on how long clothes can be hanging outside. Many homeowner associations in large suburban areas back east have banned clothes lines altogether. At least that was the case when I lived in Northern Virginia.

HOAs are the devil.

The last HOA we we stuck with was when we owned in Reston VA, one of the first planned communities in the nation. If we had known just how anal they were we would have never bought there. Everything had to fit the original plan/designs, HOA approval was needed even if you wanted to sneeze in your yard........... Not really but you get my gist.

 

[Blues Man]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I have electric and if I lived in earthquake country, I sure as hell would have electric

Cooking with electricity sucks ass. And they made no mention about the dangers of earthquakes.
Wonder how long till they ban charcoal and wood.....if they haven't already.

Electric stoves are a problem for the majority of texassns. California can deal with it.

It's a less controllable method of cooking. flames are more easily adjustable and react quicker when cooking.

Not to mention you can still cook if the power goes out

 

[martybegan]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I have electric and if I lived in earthquake country, I sure as hell would have electric

Cooking with electricity sucks ass. And they made no mention about the dangers of earthquakes.
Wonder how long till they ban charcoal and wood.....if they haven't already.

Electric stoves are a problem for the majority of texassns. California can deal with it.

It's a less controllable method of cooking. flames are more easily adjustable and react quicker when cooking.

It is true that you need to be more attentive when cooking with electric stoves but for me they are very predictable so Ii have no problem with them. I know that for the average country bumpkin fire is the way and electric is just too hard for them.

What a smarmy elitist shit you are.

Once again the issue becomes "I have no issue with it, lets force EVERYONE TO BE LIKE MEEEEEEEEEE"