Bezerkly bans natural gas in new homes and businesses.

[Dekster]

I have electric and if I lived in earthquake country, I sure as hell would have electric

Well I have and let me tell ya it's hard as hell to cook on electricity when there's no electric power. My power was out for over a friggin week after the Loma Prieta quake. The fridge didn't work so well either. Up in the nearby Santa Cruz mountains it took some months to get their power back on. I had better luck with the electric service in the Philippines, a third world country.

I lost power for 3 days in a hurricane. Move to the east coast. We are much quicker about such things. They will even text me to tell me when my power is restored. Very considerate.

LOL they do the same stupid shit here but can they tell you why it's out or when it will be back on? Noooooooo.
Therefore I have a whole house stand by generator now.

Actually they do have a website that you can go to to track power outages that posts updates, causes of outages, etc. They give estimates on there as to when power will be restored to certain areas. You just click on your neighborhood. It was pretty handy during the hurricane. They updated it every 4 hours. If nothing else, it was something to do to pass the time to say, "Fuck, I am glad I don't live in THAT neighborhood every time they did an update for a couple places in the area that just got devastated. by trees and water clear cutting their electric infrastructure.

I was without power for 16 days after Ike, ran two gasoline generators 24/7. After that I got a whole home generator that runs on propane, it can also run on natural gas.

.

I have seen those but not worth the money really no more than we lose power in this area. If I lived in the sticks, or in the northeast, or had critical medical devices I would do it. As is, not real need.

 

[martybegan]

Natural gas is not needed to run a home. The intent is to create more solar power from the roof top. If you had any brains this would be clearly understood.

How about we let people decide this on their own, you fascist twat-waddle?

 

[martybegan]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I have electric and if I lived in earthquake country, I sure as hell would have electric

Cooking with electricity sucks ass. And they made no mention about the dangers of earthquakes.
Wonder how long till they ban charcoal and wood.....if they haven't already.

Electric stoves are a problem for the majority of texassns. California can deal with it.

It's a less controllable method of cooking. flames are more easily adjustable and react quicker when cooking.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Natural gas is not needed to run a home. The intent is to create more solar power from the roof top. If you had any brains this would be clearly understood.

How about we let people decide this on their own, you fascist twat-waddle?

/----/ "How about we let people decide this on their own, you fascist twat-waddle?"
Libtards think Non-Libtards are too stupid to cross the street without wearing a pink bubble suit.

 

[Edgetho]

Maybe they banned Natural gas due to pipe-line rupturing fears??

If there's a earthquake, I could understand that but it shouldn't be that difficult to have an automatic cutoff in case of rupture.

dimocraps aren't just scum, they're stupid as well.

When Kalifornication goes belly-up, they'll be crying for help. And we need to turn them down

You people that are Patriots and still live there? You need to leave sooner rather than later.

Nothing good ever happens when dimocrap scum take over something. Anything. Everything they touch turns to shit.

everything

 

[OKTexas]

Well I have and let me tell ya it's hard as hell to cook on electricity when there's no electric power. My power was out for over a friggin week after the Loma Prieta quake. The fridge didn't work so well either. Up in the nearby Santa Cruz mountains it took some months to get their power back on. I had better luck with the electric service in the Philippines, a third world country.

I lost power for 3 days in a hurricane. Move to the east coast. We are much quicker about such things. They will even text me to tell me when my power is restored. Very considerate.

LOL they do the same stupid shit here but can they tell you why it's out or when it will be back on? Noooooooo.
Therefore I have a whole house stand by generator now.

Actually they do have a website that you can go to to track power outages that posts updates, causes of outages, etc. They give estimates on there as to when power will be restored to certain areas. You just click on your neighborhood. It was pretty handy during the hurricane. They updated it every 4 hours. If nothing else, it was something to do to pass the time to say, "Fuck, I am glad I don't live in THAT neighborhood every time they did an update for a couple places in the area that just got devastated. by trees and water clear cutting their electric infrastructure.

I was without power for 16 days after Ike, ran two gasoline generators 24/7. After that I got a whole home generator that runs on propane, it can also run on natural gas.

.

I have seen those but not worth the money really no more than we lose power in this area. If I lived in the sticks, or in the northeast, or had critical medical devices I would do it. As is, not real need.

You don't have to get one to run your whole home, smaller ones that can run specific circuits aren't that expensive. Not losing everything in your frig and freezer a couple of times will pay for them.

.

 

[Tax Man]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I have electric and if I lived in earthquake country, I sure as hell would have electric

Cooking with electricity sucks ass. And they made no mention about the dangers of earthquakes.
Wonder how long till they ban charcoal and wood.....if they haven't already.

Electric stoves are a problem for the majority of texassns. California can deal with it.

It's a less controllable method of cooking. flames are more easily adjustable and react quicker when cooking.

It is true that you need to be more attentive when cooking with electric stoves but for me they are very predictable so Ii have no problem with them. I know that for the average country bumpkin fire is the way and electric is just too hard for them.

 

[Tax Man]

Maybe they banned Natural gas due to pipe-line rupturing fears??

If there's a earthquake, I could understand that but it shouldn't be that difficult to have an automatic cutoff in case of rupture.

dimocraps aren't just scum, they're stupid as well.

When Kalifornication goes belly-up, they'll be crying for help. And we need to turn them down

You people that are Patriots and still live there? You need to leave sooner rather than later.

Nothing good ever happens when dimocrap scum take over something. Anything. Everything they touch turns to shit.

everything

Actually it is democrats who save the nation when cons destroy them. Speaking of dumb here is a good read, if you can understand big words.
Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice


Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice
Stephanie Pappas, LiveScience Senior Writer | January 26, 2012 10:29am ET

There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.

"Prejudice is extremely complex and multifaceted, making it critical that any factors contributing to bias are uncovered and understood," he said.

Controversy ahead

The findings combine three hot-button topics.

"They've pulled off the trifecta of controversial topics," said Brian Nosek, a social and cognitive psychologist at the University of Virginia who was not involved in the study. "When one selects intelligence, political ideology and racism and looks at any of the relationships between those three variables, it's bound to upset somebody."

Polling data and social and political science research do show that prejudice is more common in those who hold right-wing ideals that those of other political persuasions, Nosek told LiveScience. [7 Thoughts That Are Bad For You]

"The unique contribution here is trying to make some progress on the most challenging aspect of this," Nosek said, referring to the new study. "It's not that a relationship like that exists, but why it exists."

Brains and bias

Earlier studies have found links between low levels of education and higher levels of prejudice, Hodson said, so studying intelligence seemed a logical next step. The researchers turned to two studies of citizens in the United Kingdom, one that has followed babies since their births in March 1958, and another that did the same for babies born in April 1970. The children in the studies had their intelligence assessed at age 10 or 11; as adults ages 30 or 33, their levels of social conservatism and racism were measured. [Life's Extremes: Democrat vs. Republican]

In the first study, verbal and nonverbal intelligence was measured using tests that asked people to find similarities and differences between words, shapes and symbols. The second study measured cognitive abilities in four ways, including number recall, shape-drawing tasks, defining words and identifying patterns and similarities among words. Average IQ is set at 100.

Social conservatives were defined as people who agreed with a laundry list of statements such as "Family life suffers if mum is working full-time," and "Schools should teach children to obey authority." Attitudes toward other races were captured by measuring agreement with statements such as "I wouldn't mind working with people from other races." (These questions measured overt prejudiced attitudes, but most people, no matter how egalitarian, do hold unconscious racial biases; Hodson's work can't speak to this "underground" racism.)

As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias.

People with lower cognitive abilities also had less contact with people of other races.

"This finding is consistent with recent research demonstrating that intergroup contact is mentally challenging and cognitively draining, and consistent with findings that contact reduces prejudice," said Hodson, who along with his colleagues published these results online Jan. 5 in the journal Psychological Science.

A study of averages

Hodson was quick to note that the despite the link found between low intelligence and social conservatism, the researchers aren't implying that all liberals are brilliant and all conservatives stupid. The research is a study of averages over large groups, he said.

"There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals," Hodson said.

Nosek gave another example to illustrate the dangers of taking the findings too literally.

"We can say definitively men are taller than women on average," he said. "But you can't say if you take a random man and you take a random woman that the man is going to be taller. There's plenty of overlap."

Nonetheless, there is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world.

"Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," Hodson said, explaining why these beliefs might draw those with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."

In another study, this one in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning. They found that what applies to racism may also apply to homophobia. People who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays. As in the U.K. citizens, a lack of contact with gays and more acceptance of right-wing authoritarianism explained the link. [5 Myths About Gay People Debunked]

Simple viewpoints

Hodson and Busseri's explanation of their findings is reasonable, Nosek said, but it is correlational. That means the researchers didn't conclusively prove that the low intelligence caused the later prejudice. To do that, you'd have to somehow randomly assign otherwise identical people to be smart or dumb, liberal or conservative. Those sorts of studies obviously aren't possible.

The researchers controlled for factors such as education and socioeconomic status, making their case stronger, Nosek said. But there are other possible explanations that fit the data. For example, Nosek said, a study of left-wing liberals with stereotypically naïve views like "every kid is a genius in his or her own way," might find that people who hold these attitudes are also less bright. In other words, it might not be a particular ideology that is linked to stupidity, but extremist views in general.

"My speculation is that it's not as simple as their model presents it," Nosek said. "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology where 'People I don't know are threats' and 'The world is a dangerous place'. ... Another simple way would be to just assume everybody is wonderful."

Prejudice is of particular interest because understanding the roots of racism and bias could help eliminate them, Hodson said. For example, he said, many anti-prejudice programs encourage participants to see things from another group's point of view. That mental exercise may be too taxing for people of low IQ.

"There may be cognitive limits in the ability to take the perspective of others, particularly foreigners," Hodson said. "Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive. These two pieces of information suggest that it might be particularly fruitful for researchers to consider strategies to change feelings toward outgroups," rather than thoughts.

You can follow LiveScience senior writer Stephanie Pappas on Twitter @sipappas. Follow LiveScience for the latest in science news and discoveries on Twitter @livescience and on Facebook.

 

[WillMunny]

No surprise coming from Berkley, a city so fanatically leftist that it actually manages to deserve a big quake even more than San Fuckcisco itself! The city gov't. recently banned "sexist" words like "manhole" or "manpower."......these people-like things really need to get a life since they think there aren't more serious concerns in society than being butthurt over common, everyday words that aren't supposed to be taken that literally!

 

[bripat9643]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I have electric and if I lived in earthquake country, I sure as hell would have electric

Cooking with electricity sucks ass. And they made no mention about the dangers of earthquakes.
Wonder how long till they ban charcoal and wood.....if they haven't already.

Electric stoves are a problem for the majority of texassns. California can deal with it.

It's a less controllable method of cooking. flames are more easily adjustable and react quicker when cooking.

It is true that you need to be more attentive when cooking with electric stoves but for me they are very predictable so Ii have no problem with them. I know that for the average country bumpkin fire is the way and electric is just too hard for them.

Professional chiefs prefer gas stoves, moron. Look at all the most expensive stoves. They are all gas. Wolfgang Puck even has a company that sells professional quality gas ranges.

 

[Dekster]

I have electric and if I lived in earthquake country, I sure as hell would have electric

Cooking with electricity sucks ass. And they made no mention about the dangers of earthquakes.
Wonder how long till they ban charcoal and wood.....if they haven't already.

Electric stoves are a problem for the majority of texassns. California can deal with it.

It's a less controllable method of cooking. flames are more easily adjustable and react quicker when cooking.

It is true that you need to be more attentive when cooking with electric stoves but for me they are very predictable so Ii have no problem with them. I know that for the average country bumpkin fire is the way and electric is just too hard for them.

Professional chiefs prefer gas stoves, moron. Look at all the most expensive stoves. They are all gas. Wolfgang Puck even has a company that sells professional quality gas ranges.

Some restaurants prefer electric because it is cheaper up front, requires less installation headache, and doesn't overheat the kitchen.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I have electric and if I lived in earthquake country, I sure as hell would have electric

Cooking with electricity sucks ass. And they made no mention about the dangers of earthquakes.
Wonder how long till they ban charcoal and wood.....if they haven't already.

Electric stoves are a problem for the majority of texassns. California can deal with it.

It's a less controllable method of cooking. flames are more easily adjustable and react quicker when cooking.

It is true that you need to be more attentive when cooking with electric stoves but for me they are very predictable so Ii have no problem with them. I know that for the average country bumpkin fire is the way and electric is just too hard for them.

You are such a liar. It is simply impossible for an electric stove to be anywhere near as effective as a gas stove. By their very nature (first converting energy into heat, then transferring that heat to he cookware through an element) they will always be less responsive than a direct flame, because there's a whom additional step involved. And because of that extra step they will always be less consistent. Each element heats differently, causing hot spots, and they often don't sit perfectly level, causing hit spots on the cookware to be even worse.

Just because you're used to electric cooking and aren't sophisticated enough to know anything better doesn't mean that better doesn't exist.

 

[daveman]

For cooking, I prefer a gas cooktop and an electric oven.

Gas heat and water heater every time!

An electric oven is not uncommon even for people with gas cook tops. While I theoretically would have gas hot water if I could, I really wouldn't for more practical reasons--the location of the tank in my house is not a good place for a gas unit

Of course, that's always a consideration. Sometimes retrofit just isn't practical.

If my landlord had installed a line to the laundry alcove, I'd have bought a gas clothes dryer. Dryers are the single biggest consumers of electrical power.

I have a dryer and a clothesline I use weather and will permitting. This time of year, the line will dry about as fast as the dryer. Just about everyone in my subdivision I know has complained at some point about the location of their hot water heater. The developer stuck them all behind doors in small rooms/closets on the opposite ends of the houses from where most of the water gets consumed. I was going to do on-demand, but the guy who sells them said that wouldn't fix the location problem so I would need some expensive replumbing for that

Bad house design, but not much you can do about it. I'd use a clothesline, but I don't have one, and I couldn't in the spring. Everything would wind up yellow.

There are areas, mostly in Yuppivilles that don't allow clothes lines unless they're the retractable kind with restrictions on how long clothes can be hanging outside. Many homeowner associations in large suburban areas back east have banned clothes lines altogether. At least that was the case when I lived in Northern Virginia.

HOAs are the devil.

 

[bripat9643]

Cooking with electricity sucks ass. And they made no mention about the dangers of earthquakes.
Wonder how long till they ban charcoal and wood.....if they haven't already.

Electric stoves are a problem for the majority of texassns. California can deal with it.

It's a less controllable method of cooking. flames are more easily adjustable and react quicker when cooking.

It is true that you need to be more attentive when cooking with electric stoves but for me they are very predictable so Ii have no problem with them. I know that for the average country bumpkin fire is the way and electric is just too hard for them.

Professional chiefs prefer gas stoves, moron. Look at all the most expensive stoves. They are all gas. Wolfgang Puck even has a company that sells professional quality gas ranges.

Some restaurants prefer electric because it is cheaper up front, requires less installation headache, and doesn't overheat the kitchen.

Those are called "bad restaurants." All the best restaurants use gas. You can blubber all you like about electric, but professionals prefer gas. There simply isn't any doubt about that.

 

[daveman]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

 

[bripat9643]

An electric oven is not uncommon even for people with gas cook tops. While I theoretically would have gas hot water if I could, I really wouldn't for more practical reasons--the location of the tank in my house is not a good place for a gas unit

Of course, that's always a consideration. Sometimes retrofit just isn't practical.

If my landlord had installed a line to the laundry alcove, I'd have bought a gas clothes dryer. Dryers are the single biggest consumers of electrical power.

I have a dryer and a clothesline I use weather and will permitting. This time of year, the line will dry about as fast as the dryer. Just about everyone in my subdivision I know has complained at some point about the location of their hot water heater. The developer stuck them all behind doors in small rooms/closets on the opposite ends of the houses from where most of the water gets consumed. I was going to do on-demand, but the guy who sells them said that wouldn't fix the location problem so I would need some expensive replumbing for that

Bad house design, but not much you can do about it. I'd use a clothesline, but I don't have one, and I couldn't in the spring. Everything would wind up yellow.

There are areas, mostly in Yuppivilles that don't allow clothes lines unless they're the retractable kind with restrictions on how long clothes can be hanging outside. Many homeowner associations in large suburban areas back east have banned clothes lines altogether. At least that was the case when I lived in Northern Virginia.

HOAs are the devil.

I agree. I hate HOAs. Who wants to have some committee deciding what color you can paint your house or whether you can build a workshop in your backyard? The whole concept is fundamentally unamerican.

 

[Crepitus]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

 

[daveman]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I have electric and if I lived in earthquake country, I sure as hell would have electric

Cooking with electricity sucks ass. And they made no mention about the dangers of earthquakes.
Wonder how long till they ban charcoal and wood.....if they haven't already.

Electric stoves are a problem for the majority of texassns. California can deal with it.

It's a less controllable method of cooking. flames are more easily adjustable and react quicker when cooking.

It is true that you need to be more attentive when cooking with electric stoves but for me they are very predictable so Ii have no problem with them. I know that for the average country bumpkin fire is the way and electric is just too hard for them.

You and people like you are the reason Trump won.

 

[daveman]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

 

[Crepitus]

WTF!!!
Who the Hell wants to cook on an electric range or oven?
They claim it's for stopping climate change yet natural gas is the cleanest burning fossil fuel available.
I'd be looking to see who profits by going all electric.
Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

I would think it's more about earthquakes than the small environmental impact. Power lines don't leak or explode.

Wanna bet?

Big arcs that look like explosions when they overload the cameras. I never said they weren't dangerous, but they aren't going to level any houses explosively.

Unless there's a natural gas leak inside.

Cool video though.

Houses burn due to electrical fires all the time. Surely you've heard of this...?

Ok genius, please point out where I said anything like that?

Yes, electricity is dangerous.

No, electricity can't seep into your house from a cracked main and blow it up.