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No you should thank government. No one is thanking you. You don't understand our government is the referee. Every government is.
Ours just so happens to be of we the people. At least it use to now it serves the rich because you worship them.
OK I'll bite. Post the "names" I've called you. Refresh my memory.
OK I'll bite. Post the "names" I've called you. Refresh my memory.
I realize for people your age Alzheimer's is starting so I'll answer that one...
You just called me a troll.
As for your inability to contain your comments to OP, which I believe you created BTW, we all know it's because...
*****CHUCKLE******
OK I'll bite. Post the "names" I've called you. Refresh my memory.
I realize for people your age Alzheimer's is starting so I'll answer that one...
You just called me a troll.
As for your inability to contain your comments to OP, which I believe you created BTW, we all know it's because...
*****CHUCKLE******
My mind is doing just fine. I am in the middle of rebuilding a c6 automatic transmission for this 95 f250 4x4 I recently purchased. Not many people let alone good mechanics would take on a project like this just because there are so many ways to screw it up. I manufactured 10 special tools in a machine shop just for this rebuild. The c6 is the top choice for many car and off road racing builds so I am gearing up to build them professionally starting with my own rig. I am a licensed airplane pilot and stay current on the information any good pilot must be aware of to perform that endeavor with competence.
As for calling you a "troll". I noticed you replied to a whole string of my posts in a short period of time without really addressing any of my points. Posting with songs and video clips may seem entertaining to you but if these distractions don't add to the discussion they are in fact just trolling posts. IMHO your posts are more about you attempting to get attention. THAT to me is trolling.
So yes I labeled you a troll. You met several of the characteristics I weigh to meet that level.
I haven't given your posting a thorough look. I probably won't give you the attention you seek to reach a well informed opinion. Your style is annoying to me. No big deal. Neither one of us is obligated to go out of our way for anyone on the internets. If you crave my interest you must be interesting not annoying.
OK I'll bite. Post the "names" I've called you. Refresh my memory.
I realize for people your age Alzheimer's is starting so I'll answer that one...
You just called me a troll.
As for your inability to contain your comments to OP, which I believe you created BTW, we all know it's because...
*****CHUCKLE******
My mind is doing just fine. I am in the middle of rebuilding a c6 automatic transmission for this 95 f250 4x4 I recently purchased. Not many people let alone good mechanics would take on a project like this just because there are so many ways to screw it up. I manufactured 10 special tools in a machine shop just for this rebuild. The c6 is the top choice for many car and off road racing builds so I am gearing up to build them professionally starting with my own rig. I am a licensed airplane pilot and stay current on the information any good pilot must be aware of to perform that endeavor with competence.
As for calling you a "troll". I noticed you replied to a whole string of my posts in a short period of time without really addressing any of my points. Posting with songs and video clips may seem entertaining to you but if these distractions don't add to the discussion they are in fact just trolling posts. IMHO your posts are more about you attempting to get attention. THAT to me is trolling.
So yes I labeled you a troll. You met several of the characteristics I weigh to meet that level.
I haven't given your posting a thorough look. I probably won't give you the attention you seek to reach a well informed opinion. Your style is annoying to me. No big deal. Neither one of us is obligated to go out of our way for anyone on the internets. If you crave my interest you must be interesting not annoying.
Is that why you felt you needed such a long response?
Sounds to me like you're simply deflecting from the whole issue of your initial post... Something you started when you became angry. That and the fact that you are apparently insecure about the state of your mental capacities since you felt some urgent need for providing TMI. You also appear to have difficulties with accepting personal differences since you feel some pressing need to comment on how I post my replies.
Do you wish to try over and perhaps discuss the OP or should we continue this dance?
*****CHUCKLE*****
I understand Huggy's program. He can't prove that God does not exist, so he wants believers to prove to him something he will not believe anyway. And, yes, I believe his ulterior motive is to take away the believers' right to discuss religious values in the public forum.
I'm just here doing a public service. God stories offer you more. I offer you less but it is the truth.
I'm not here to suggest that any one of you waste a single second "following" my path. I am here suggesting that the time you have on this earth is ALL of the time you will EVER have and to waste even a second of that most precious commodity is a crime.
God is a silly lie but the "heaven" lie is the dangerous one. It sucks people into hedging a bet on a ticket that will NEVER get cashed in. There is no collection window when you die. There is less than nothing. You will not lie there cold in pitch darkness in a box underground. YOU will not exist any more in any form. Your only future after you die is in the minds of those that knew you. That is but a shadow...a reflection of who you are anyway. No one really knows anyone 100%.
There is certainly nothing wrong with doing good for your fellow man with the limited time you have here on earth. If you are doing all this good believing you will have an eternity somewhere for your efforts then you have just wasted your time.
Haven't any of you noticed a striking resemblance between a church and a gambling casino?
They don't build those big impressive casinos because the house is losing. Those churches didn't come cheap either.
Most of the casinos I know of are built with a heavy investment of taxpayer dollars for the 'good' of the local government and not necessarily for the good of the people. Those government buildings that you worship at as you demand more and more taxes to 'do good' are built with tax dollars also. Your religion of government intervention costs me more than any religion that uses churches, temples, synagogues, mosques, etc,... has ever cost me because they only take money that's given freely.
Charity is given freely and from the heart not at the point of a government sword.
*****CHUCKLE*****
Every government's job is to practice social engineering.
Government allows churches to be tax free. You're welcome.
And it's a huge industry. We'd have a recession without religion and no one is forcing anyone to join except maybe your family from birth.
If you are so unfortunate to be born female in a Morman family and church you can expect to be pawed and groped and penetrated by some old man when you are 14. No worries...don't let that concern your little punkin head. It's all been arranged.
I understand Huggy's program. He can't prove that God does not exist, so he wants believers to prove to him something he will not believe anyway. And, yes, I believe his ulterior motive is to take away the believers' right to discuss religious values in the public forum.
I'm just here doing a public service. God stories offer you more. I offer you less but it is the truth.
I'm not here to suggest that any one of you waste a single second "following" my path. I am here suggesting that the time you have on this earth is ALL of the time you will EVER have and to waste even a second of that most precious commodity is a crime.
God is a silly lie but the "heaven" lie is the dangerous one. It sucks people into hedging a bet on a ticket that will NEVER get cashed in. There is no collection window when you die. There is less than nothing. You will not lie there cold in pitch darkness in a box underground. YOU will not exist any more in any form. Your only future after you die is in the minds of those that knew you. That is but a shadow...a reflection of who you are anyway. No one really knows anyone 100%.
There is certainly nothing wrong with doing good for your fellow man with the limited time you have here on earth. If you are doing all this good believing you will have an eternity somewhere for your efforts then you have just wasted your time.
Haven't any of you noticed a striking resemblance between a church and a gambling casino?
They don't build those big impressive casinos because the house is losing. Those churches didn't come cheap either.
Most of the casinos I know of are built with a heavy investment of taxpayer dollars for the 'good' of the local government and not necessarily for the good of the people. Those government buildings that you worship at as you demand more and more taxes to 'do good' are built with tax dollars also. Your religion of government intervention costs me more than any religion that uses churches, temples, synagogues, mosques, etc,... has ever cost me because they only take money that's given freely.
Charity is given freely and from the heart not at the point of a government sword.
*****CHUCKLE*****
Every government's job is to practice social engineering.
Government allows churches to be tax free. You're welcome.
And it's a huge industry. We'd have a recession without religion and no one is forcing anyone to join except maybe your family from birth.
If you are so unfortunate to be born female in a Morman family and church you can expect to be pawed and groped and penetrated by some old man when you are 14. No worries...don't let that concern your little punkin head. It's all been arranged.
Did you mean Mormon or Muslim?
I'm just here doing a public service. God stories offer you more. I offer you less but it is the truth.
I'm not here to suggest that any one of you waste a single second "following" my path. I am here suggesting that the time you have on this earth is ALL of the time you will EVER have and to waste even a second of that most precious commodity is a crime.
God is a silly lie but the "heaven" lie is the dangerous one. It sucks people into hedging a bet on a ticket that will NEVER get cashed in. There is no collection window when you die. There is less than nothing. You will not lie there cold in pitch darkness in a box underground. YOU will not exist any more in any form. Your only future after you die is in the minds of those that knew you. That is but a shadow...a reflection of who you are anyway. No one really knows anyone 100%.
There is certainly nothing wrong with doing good for your fellow man with the limited time you have here on earth. If you are doing all this good believing you will have an eternity somewhere for your efforts then you have just wasted your time.
Haven't any of you noticed a striking resemblance between a church and a gambling casino?
They don't build those big impressive casinos because the house is losing. Those churches didn't come cheap either.
Most of the casinos I know of are built with a heavy investment of taxpayer dollars for the 'good' of the local government and not necessarily for the good of the people. Those government buildings that you worship at as you demand more and more taxes to 'do good' are built with tax dollars also. Your religion of government intervention costs me more than any religion that uses churches, temples, synagogues, mosques, etc,... has ever cost me because they only take money that's given freely.
Charity is given freely and from the heart not at the point of a government sword.
*****CHUCKLE*****
Every government's job is to practice social engineering.
Government allows churches to be tax free. You're welcome.
And it's a huge industry. We'd have a recession without religion and no one is forcing anyone to join except maybe your family from birth.
If you are so unfortunate to be born female in a Morman family and church you can expect to be pawed and groped and penetrated by some old man when you are 14. No worries...don't let that concern your little punkin head. It's all been arranged.
Did you mean Mormon or Muslim?
I believe the Morman's at least wait til the little girls start to bleed before they are forced to breed.
The barbaric Muslims have no such restraint.
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it is an abdication that at first glance seems to reflect your own earlier comment ...
anotherwords there is a Spiritual component associated with evolution that then translates to physical change ... and (perhaps) there is a repository, the Everlasting where the Spiritual evolution to Life begins and which may be readmitted after the present physiology perishes.
and therefore for a Spirit a life without physical restraint is not only possible but a goal if so desired.
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You actually believe that if you play your cards right you become a spiritual entity so when you die you are able to scoot around in spirit form? Because you "desire" it to be so?
Sure you can Sport. Ya...you should really go with that. You should COUNT on it.
I suppose you label all your advances towards this pie in the sky evolution.
I see it as levels of brain washing. You are just step by step making yourself insane. I could see you eventually reaching a level of complete belief like those nitwits that flew the planes into the towers on 9/11. Instead of believing some trash about a bunch of virgins you of course being so much more reasonable will go to heaven and see your relatives and pets that died.
You idiots think the Muslims are stupid because instead of YOUR version of heaven they get suckered in with the kind of rewards a third world goat herder would long for.
What BOTH of you can't see is that it isn't the reward that's stupid... it's the same belief you both have that you will get any reward at all after you die. Both of you have been brainwashed to a level that you are both clinically insane.
what causes the changes you refer to as evolution, not to the same specimen but from one to the next ?
what is the process, evolution you are talking about - if it is not Spiritual ?
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I don't believe from the evidence I've seen that there are wholesale leaps from one species to another totally different being if that is what you are suggesting. All of the change in evolution has come in spurts where a "spurt" might take more than a million years from what I can understand. I'm not an expert in DNA changes so you would probably be better served asking an expert in the field.
The scientists are clearly on the track of filling in the missing links the religists are so fond of bringing up. To me it is sort of a puzzle that once a few of the places on the board are filled in one can easily guess where the puzzle is going. The religists seem to be fighting the evidence as it is discovered tooth and nail. I have no such agenda. Sure as a curious human being with enough education to basically follow many of the directions scientists are following I try to keep up as I would like to see a more complete filling in of the evolutionary puzzle like most Americans.
We are not a nation of frightened goat herders. We lead the world in education and discovery. I welcome the results as they appear.
I don't believe from the evidence I've seen that there are wholesale leaps from one species to another totally different being if that is what you are suggesting. All of the change in evolution has come in spurts where a "spurt" might take more than a million years from what I can understand.
the point being made is change does not occur to a single specimen over time but the change is being transferred from one (unaffected) specimen to a new altered specimen with a predetermined outcome with results - whether radical or simple the change takes place.
anotherwards, there is a Spiritual overlap between generations that allows for "evolution" to occur.
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A spiritual overlap? Ya....UUUUuuuuuu Right.
BW: anotherwards, there is a Spiritual overlap between generations that allows for "evolution" to occur.
HUGGY: A spiritual overlap? Ya....UUUUuuuuuu Right.
All of the change in evolution has come in spurts where a "spurt" might take more than a million years from what I can understand. I'm not an expert in DNA changes so you would probably be better served asking an expert in the field.
...You actually believe that if you play your cards right you become a spiritual entity so when you die you are able to scoot around in spirit form? Because you "desire" it to be so?
Sure you can Sport. Ya...you should really go with that. You should COUNT on it.
I suppose you label all your advances towards this pie in the sky evolution.
I see it as levels of brain washing. You are just step by step making yourself insane. I could see you eventually reaching a level of complete belief like those nitwits that flew the planes into the towers on 9/11. Instead of believing some trash about a bunch of virgins you of course being so much more reasonable will go to heaven and see your relatives and pets that died.
You idiots think the Muslims are stupid because instead of YOUR version of heaven they get suckered in with the kind of rewards a third world goat herder would long for.
What BOTH of you can't see is that it isn't the reward that's stupid... it's the same belief you both have that you will get any reward at all after you die. Both of you have been brainwashed to a level that you are both clinically insane.
what causes the changes you refer to as evolution, not to the same specimen but from one to the next ?
what is the process, evolution you are talking about - if it is not Spiritual ?
.
I don't believe from the evidence I've seen that there are wholesale leaps from one species to another totally different being if that is what you are suggesting. All of the change in evolution has come in spurts where a "spurt" might take more than a million years from what I can understand. I'm not an expert in DNA changes so you would probably be better served asking an expert in the field.
The scientists are clearly on the track of filling in the missing links the religists are so fond of bringing up. To me it is sort of a puzzle that once a few of the places on the board are filled in one can easily guess where the puzzle is going. The religists seem to be fighting the evidence as it is discovered tooth and nail. I have no such agenda. Sure as a curious human being with enough education to basically follow many of the directions scientists are following I try to keep up as I would like to see a more complete filling in of the evolutionary puzzle like most Americans.
We are not a nation of frightened goat herders. We lead the world in education and discovery. I welcome the results as they appear.
I don't believe from the evidence I've seen that there are wholesale leaps from one species to another totally different being if that is what you are suggesting. All of the change in evolution has come in spurts where a "spurt" might take more than a million years from what I can understand.
the point being made is change does not occur to a single specimen over time but the change is being transferred from one (unaffected) specimen to a new altered specimen with a predetermined outcome with results - whether radical or simple the change takes place.
anotherwards, there is a Spiritual overlap between generations that allows for "evolution" to occur.
.
A spiritual overlap? Ya....UUUUuuuuuu Right.
BW: anotherwards, there is a Spiritual overlap between generations that allows for "evolution" to occur.
HUGGY: A spiritual overlap? Ya....UUUUuuuuuu Right.
All of the change in evolution has come in spurts where a "spurt" might take more than a million years from what I can understand. I'm not an expert in DNA changes so you would probably be better served asking an expert in the field.
in DNA changes ...
what then without DNA expertise as being necessary, is your explanation for the changes that occur allowing for physical evolution to take place if not from a Spiritual origin - the recognition for improvement being transferred to a new being.
and also speciation occurring the same as metamorphosis from a superimposed state to a new beginning, the essence of a Spiritual event.
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If you are so unfortunate to be born female in a Morman family and church you can expect to be pawed and groped and penetrated by some old man when you are 14. No worries...don't let that concern your little punkin head. It's all been arranged.
It's my thread. I'll continue to post on it as long as the replies continue.
Your diversions into my personal abilities have been answered, Trolling was alleged and trolling continues. Your screwing around attempting to elevate some personal drama instead of addressing the points I have made is the essence of trolling.
My life is already interesting. I don't participate here at USMB to find friends or play pinch and tickle with goof balls like yourself.
If you cannot address the points made in this thread or suggest some of your own consistent with the topic please leave me alone. So far I am not impressed with your ability or more your lack of an ability to stay on topic.
In any case I believe this "dance" is over.
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what causes the changes you refer to as evolution, not to the same specimen but from one to the next ?
what is the process, evolution you are talking about - if it is not Spiritual ?
.
I don't believe from the evidence I've seen that there are wholesale leaps from one species to another totally different being if that is what you are suggesting. All of the change in evolution has come in spurts where a "spurt" might take more than a million years from what I can understand. I'm not an expert in DNA changes so you would probably be better served asking an expert in the field.
The scientists are clearly on the track of filling in the missing links the religists are so fond of bringing up. To me it is sort of a puzzle that once a few of the places on the board are filled in one can easily guess where the puzzle is going. The religists seem to be fighting the evidence as it is discovered tooth and nail. I have no such agenda. Sure as a curious human being with enough education to basically follow many of the directions scientists are following I try to keep up as I would like to see a more complete filling in of the evolutionary puzzle like most Americans.
We are not a nation of frightened goat herders. We lead the world in education and discovery. I welcome the results as they appear.
I don't believe from the evidence I've seen that there are wholesale leaps from one species to another totally different being if that is what you are suggesting. All of the change in evolution has come in spurts where a "spurt" might take more than a million years from what I can understand.
the point being made is change does not occur to a single specimen over time but the change is being transferred from one (unaffected) specimen to a new altered specimen with a predetermined outcome with results - whether radical or simple the change takes place.
anotherwards, there is a Spiritual overlap between generations that allows for "evolution" to occur.
.
A spiritual overlap? Ya....UUUUuuuuuu Right.
BW: anotherwards, there is a Spiritual overlap between generations that allows for "evolution" to occur.
HUGGY: A spiritual overlap? Ya....UUUUuuuuuu Right.
All of the change in evolution has come in spurts where a "spurt" might take more than a million years from what I can understand. I'm not an expert in DNA changes so you would probably be better served asking an expert in the field.
in DNA changes ...
what then without DNA expertise as being necessary, is your explanation for the changes that occur allowing for physical evolution to take place if not from a Spiritual origin - the recognition for improvement being transferred to a new being.
and also speciation occurring the same as metamorphosis from a superimposed state to a new beginning, the essence of a Spiritual event.
.
You are losing me with this "spiritual" component.
Flying fish of which there are several varieties can eject themselves from water and extend their fins to glide considerable distances and elevation on the air above the water. Did they rely on some "spiritual" component to achieve this ability? I believe the fear of being eaten had more to do with it and the ones that couldn't fly very far got eaten and those that flew far enough to evade the predators survived. What other reason to "learn to fly"? Sight seeing? Spiritual development?
Some fish have learned to crawl out of water and developed an ability to go from one drying up puddle to a larger one with less likely of a chance of drying up. OR are these fish just sight seeing? Working on their spiritual development?
IMHO human beings have developed a very complex brain. We have imagination. We rapidly invent solutions to problems way past the desperate need of the moment. We observe. We plan. We can do this awake or in dreams as we sleep.
I used to believe I could enter a walking dream state and follow colors in my dream state to decide if my directions taken in this dream state were true or false or evil. I used this perceived ability to help other people in distress or so I thought. One night I was driving down a Seattle road in an area known for criminal activity and saw a young woman hiding behind a dumpster. She was only wearing a night gown. Anyway to make the story short, I stopped, got out of my car, convinced her I would help her, "thought" I was looking into her mind and followed a path, with the colors, several miles looking through her eyes at the scenery she was familiar with. Oh by the way she was totally incoherent. Nothing coming out of her mouth made any sense at all. She just kept babbling gibberish. If you know Seattle, I took her from the Rainier Valley to West Seattle probably making a hundred or more turns. When I was sure I was at the house "with the proper safe colors in my dream state I knocked on the door. An older woman, I was 22 or 23 at the time answered the door. I pointed to the young woman in my car and asked her if she knew that young woman. She started sobbing with a "yes". Turned out the young woman was completely mentally broken after her fiance had blown her off. She was a basket case. Couldn't talk. Scrambled brain. At the time I convinced myself I had "spiritually" saved the young woman from the criminal element in the Rainier Valley. Nonsense. I don't know how I "read her mind" and found her mother's house in that rainy windy Seattle night. Her mom was convinced it was a miracle. Nonsense.
I have had many dozens of situations come up that a vivid imagination could attribute to "spirituality". Again...NONSENSE.
We have developed minds that can search in unusual directions to solve problems. I am not nor never was the "psychic lifeguard" I though I was. All these adventures proved was that we have interesting minds that can explore possibilities not yet experienced. There is no "magic". There is no god. Our brains are Ferrari's while the rest of the animal kingdom has yet to understand how to ride a goat or burro.
Chimps can take a stick and pick away at a hole in a log and pull out a grub. We have landed a man on the moon. No magic..no spirituality.
You are losing me with this "spiritual" component.
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Flying fish of which there are several varieties can eject themselves from water and extend their fins to glide considerable distances and elevation on the air above the water. Did they rely on some "spiritual" component to achieve this ability? I believe the fear of being eaten had more to do with it and the ones that couldn't fly very far got eaten and those that flew far enough to evade the predators survived. What other reason to "learn to fly"? Sight seeing? Spiritual development?
what then without DNA expertise as being necessary, is your explanation for the changes that occur allowing for physical evolution to take place if not from a Spiritual origin ...
HUGGY: IMHO human beings have developed a very complex brain.
H: I believe the fear of being eaten had more to do with it ...
Only idiots believe we evolved from apes.Sort of like idiots who believe we evolved from apes?
What missing link?Found the missing link yet?A belief in a god is not evil. Some people have done evil (bad) things because of a belief in a god but let's not paint all with the same stroke.
PS. Sorry SJ but evolution is true. Don't be one of the last to deny it. You'll end up looking like those flat-earthers.
You keep demanding "proof." I suspect that you have no idea what the term "proof" means.In other words, you can prove a fucking thing. Sorry, but you demand proof of the existence of God, so I'll let's apply the same standard to you. Prove your ridiculous theory of evolution. PROOF, not speculation.Sort of like idiots who believe we evolved from apes?
People like you keep droning on about "where is the missing link"?
It is right in front of you every time you go to the zoo.
We share 98% of the same genetics as a chimp or a gorilla. Those animals were on this planet many millions of years before modern humans. Unless you think your sky fairy took an ape and gave it the extra 2% in some crazy god lab to make humans then it is beyond OBVIOUS that we evolved somehow from apes. The problem with finding intact skeletons that show all the small degrees of physical change is easy to answer,
Human beings and their ancestors were and are prey animals to the larger carnivorous animals. Even in Africa today and the Arctic you will be hard pressed to find an ape corpse lying around in the jungle or Savannah or an old Eskimo corpse up north where they got eaten or swept out to sea.
Not that many animals of any description got buried before they got consumed.
