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[PaintMyHouse]

Not at all. it's unregulated, just what you desire versus the totalitarian nightmare you believe exists here.

Ah, the good old days...

Somalia is highly regulated by a collection of Feudal warlord. No one sells a bushel of wheat there without the approval of some master.

No government regulation, your dream come true. And damn little capitalism either, since it can't exist in a vacuum meaning, without government and what it provides that taxation pays for...

What a fool, capitalism predates government and taxes. People traded amongst themselves long before they joined into tribes or villages.

That was not capitalism. That was bartering.

capitalism
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noun cap·i·tal·ism \ˈka-pə-tə-ˌliz-əm, ˈkap-tə-, British also kə-ˈpi-tə-\
Simple Definition of capitalism
Popularity: Top 1% of lookups

• : a way of organizing an economy so that the things that are used to make and transport products (such as land, oil, factories, ships, etc.) are owned by individual people and companies rather than by the government

Full Definition of capitalism

1. : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

Definition of CAPITALISM

Your definition didn't contradict what he posted.

Oh, but it did. You giving me your daughter for a cow isn't capitalism. That's bartering, not much better than hunting and gathering, which also isn't capitalism.

 

[bripat9643]

Any ideas on how long people are going to ignore the difference between democratic socialism and pure socialism?

Six months? Two years? Ten years?
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The difference is that what liberals call "democratic socialism" is really just capitalism with a welfare state.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Sorry Libertarian Anarchists, Capitalism Requires Government

The guy claims to be an objectivist - a Randian, in other words. Rand opposed all taxation.

Try reading an argument, then commenting, for once. Use this is you like, I really don't care: What role does the government play in capitalism? | Investopedia


Rand died taking Social Security and Medicare, and so ends Rand.

 

[bripat9643]

Somalia is highly regulated by a collection of Feudal warlord. No one sells a bushel of wheat there without the approval of some master.

No government regulation, your dream come true. And damn little capitalism either, since it can't exist in a vacuum meaning, without government and what it provides that taxation pays for...

What a fool, capitalism predates government and taxes. People traded amongst themselves long before they joined into tribes or villages.

That was not capitalism. That was bartering.

capitalism
play
noun cap·i·tal·ism \ˈka-pə-tə-ˌliz-əm, ˈkap-tə-, British also kə-ˈpi-tə-\
Simple Definition of capitalism
Popularity: Top 1% of lookups

• : a way of organizing an economy so that the things that are used to make and transport products (such as land, oil, factories, ships, etc.) are owned by individual people and companies rather than by the government

Full Definition of capitalism

1. : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

Definition of CAPITALISM

Your definition didn't contradict what he posted.

Oh, but it did. You giving me your daughter for a cow isn't capitalism. That's bartering, not much better than hunting and gathering, which also isn't capitalism.

You definition doesn't rule that out. Money wasn't in common use until about 500 B.C., long after taxation and government came into being.

 

[Mac1958]

Any ideas on how long people are going to ignore the difference between democratic socialism and pure socialism? Six months? Two years? Ten years?
.

The difference is that what liberals call "democratic socialism" is really just capitalism with a welfare state.

That's actually much closer than what I've been seeing.
.

 

[Rouge Rover]

Any ideas on how long people are going to ignore the difference between democratic socialism and pure socialism?

Six months? Two years? Ten years?
.

Does it really matter? Both are against private ownership.

 

[bripat9643]

Sorry Libertarian Anarchists, Capitalism Requires Government

The guy claims to be an objectivist - a Randian, in other words. Rand opposed all taxation.

Try reading an argument, then commenting, for once.

Rand died taking Social Security and Medicare, and so ends Rand.

Why shouldn't she take it? Turds like you made her pay for it.

 

[OKTexas]

Funny, a country in the midst of a war, I'd call that capitalism interrupted.

Not at all. it's unregulated, just what you desire versus the totalitarian nightmare you believe exists here.

Ah, the good old days...

Somalia is highly regulated by a collection of Feudal warlord. No one sells a bushel of wheat there without the approval of some master.

No government regulation, your dream come true. And damn little capitalism either, since it can't exist in a vacuum meaning, without government and what it provides that taxation pays for...

What a fool, capitalism predates government and taxes. People traded amongst themselves long before they joined into tribes or villages.

That was not capitalism. That was bartering.

capitalism
play
noun cap·i·tal·ism \ˈka-pə-tə-ˌliz-əm, ˈkap-tə-, British also kə-ˈpi-tə-\
Simple Definition of capitalism
Popularity: Top 1% of lookups

• : a way of organizing an economy so that the things that are used to make and transport products (such as land, oil, factories, ships, etc.) are owned by individual people and companies rather than by the government

Full Definition of capitalism

1. : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

Definition of CAPITALISM

Barter is the purest form of capitalism. And like most fools of your ilk, you try to judge the past by modern standards.

 

[Agit8r]

This economic and social equality is nothing more than outright socialism/communism.

Not really though.

"The great object should be to combat the evil: 1. By establishing a political equality among all; 2. By witholding unnecessary opportunities from a few to increase the inequality of property by an immoderate, and especially an unmerited, accumulation of riches; 3. By the silent operation of laws which, without violating the rights of property, reduce extreme wealth towards a state of mediocrity and raise extreme indigence towards a state of comfort"
-- James Madison; from 'Parties' (1792)

 

[Mac1958]

Any ideas on how long people are going to ignore the difference between democratic socialism and pure socialism? Six months? Two years? Ten years?.

Does it really matter? Both are against private ownership.

No they're not. Pure socialism is, but there is plenty of private ownership in democratic socialist countries such as Norway, Sweden, Denmark, France, Germany.
.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Sorry Libertarian Anarchists, Capitalism Requires Government

The guy claims to be an objectivist - a Randian, in other words. Rand opposed all taxation.

Try reading an argument, then commenting, for once.

Rand died taking Social Security and Medicare, and so ends Rand.

Why shouldn't she take it? Turds like you made her pay for it.

Because it went completely against everything she believed in but then again, what she believed was garbage.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Not at all. it's unregulated, just what you desire versus the totalitarian nightmare you believe exists here.

Ah, the good old days...

Somalia is highly regulated by a collection of Feudal warlord. No one sells a bushel of wheat there without the approval of some master.

No government regulation, your dream come true. And damn little capitalism either, since it can't exist in a vacuum meaning, without government and what it provides that taxation pays for...

What a fool, capitalism predates government and taxes. People traded amongst themselves long before they joined into tribes or villages.

That was not capitalism. That was bartering.

capitalism
play
noun cap·i·tal·ism \ˈka-pə-tə-ˌliz-əm, ˈkap-tə-, British also kə-ˈpi-tə-\
Simple Definition of capitalism
Popularity: Top 1% of lookups

• : a way of organizing an economy so that the things that are used to make and transport products (such as land, oil, factories, ships, etc.) are owned by individual people and companies rather than by the government

Full Definition of capitalism

1. : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

Definition of CAPITALISM

Barter is the purest form of capitalism. And like most fools of your ilk, you try to judge the past by modern standards.

The past is the past. I'm not judging as capitalist what came before capitalism, dummy.

 

[OKTexas]

Somalia is highly regulated by a collection of Feudal warlord. No one sells a bushel of wheat there without the approval of some master.

No government regulation, your dream come true. And damn little capitalism either, since it can't exist in a vacuum meaning, without government and what it provides that taxation pays for...

What a fool, capitalism predates government and taxes. People traded amongst themselves long before they joined into tribes or villages.

That was not capitalism. That was bartering.

capitalism
play
noun cap·i·tal·ism \ˈka-pə-tə-ˌliz-əm, ˈkap-tə-, British also kə-ˈpi-tə-\
Simple Definition of capitalism
Popularity: Top 1% of lookups

• : a way of organizing an economy so that the things that are used to make and transport products (such as land, oil, factories, ships, etc.) are owned by individual people and companies rather than by the government

Full Definition of capitalism

1. : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

Definition of CAPITALISM

Your definition didn't contradict what he posted.

Oh, but it did. You giving me your daughter for a cow isn't capitalism. That's bartering, not much better than hunting and gathering, which also isn't capitalism.

But trading meat for an arrow head is capitalism

 

[PaintMyHouse]

But trading meat for an arrow head is capitalism

Nope. It's bartering.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Look at other countries with a higher standard of living, a better quality of life, than the US. Then bitch:

The 15 Countries With The Highest Quality Of Life

You call 28k disposable income?
That times three maybe.

 

[Rouge Rover]

Any ideas on how long people are going to ignore the difference between democratic socialism and pure socialism? Six months? Two years? Ten years?.

Does it really matter? Both are against private ownership.

No they're not. Pure socialism is, but there is plenty of private ownership in democratic socialist countries such as Norway, Sweden, Denmark, France, Germany.
.

When did the definition change? The way I learned it was Socialism as top down state control of the means of production and Democratic Socialism as replacing bureaucracy with communes, collectives, that sort of thing. Neither allowed private ownership. Has the definition changed that much?

 

[OKTexas]

But trading meat for an arrow head is capitalism

Nope. It's bartering.

I'm sorry you can't understand even the most basic economic forms, all the while blathering on and on about complex ones you also have no understanding of. You know you're making yourself look really look foolish.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

But trading meat for an arrow head is capitalism

Nope. It's bartering.

I'm sorry you can't understand even the most basic economic forms, all the while blathering on and on about complex ones you also have no understanding of. You know you're making yourself look really look foolish.

Learn what capitalism is, it isn't bartering.

 

[OKTexas]

But trading meat for an arrow head is capitalism

Nope. It's bartering.

I'm sorry you can't understand even the most basic economic forms, all the while blathering on and on about complex ones you also have no understanding of. You know you're making yourself look really look foolish.

Learn what capitalism is, it isn't bartering.

Of course it is, people still do it every day.

 

[Mac1958]

Any ideas on how long people are going to ignore the difference between democratic socialism and pure socialism? Six months? Two years? Ten years?.

Does it really matter? Both are against private ownership.

No they're not. Pure socialism is, but there is plenty of private ownership in democratic socialist countries such as Norway, Sweden, Denmark, France, Germany.
.

When did the definition change? The way I learned it was Socialism as top down state control of the means of production and Democratic Socialism as replacing bureaucracy with communes, collectives, that sort of thing. Neither allowed private ownership. Has the definition changed that much?

Well, yes.

The countries I listed are examples.
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