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These young warriors of ST-6 and other Teams ask nothing for their dedication and duty, and put themselves at risk 100's of times a year to defend this nation. Take for instance the Maersk Alabama and the pirates taken out by ST members. It was not the person that sent them there that yielded the result, but the efforts of the ALL of those involved. THUS THE WORD TEAM!!! of which in the case of UBL President Obama was part of a team. Again, taking nothing away from what I am sure was and is a very hard decision to put warriors at risk anywhere in the world, let understand that once that word is given it takes the point end of the spear to actually make the kill once the order is given to do so, and these young people risk their lives so that we may live how we do, to be the point end of that spear. They have my utmost respect and admiration, and a hardy job well done!!!! as does the President as part of the American team that got this job done.
I find the title of this thread not only insulting to warriors who carried out the mission to take out UBL but also EVERY young warrior sent to that turd hole part of the world. While it's right to give the PResident his credit for making what was a very tough decision to enter into another nation and put at risk American lives to take out UBL, please do not forget the warriors who made this happen. THEY are the HERO's here.
That's the kind of thing that goes without saying because the actual ISSUE is people who want so badly to deny that the President gave the order, they will say anything, no matter how irrational.
In other words, people are trying to say the Seal Team would have done it without his say-so. There is not even a glimmer of truth in that allegation. He couldn't have done it without them, and vice-versa.
First ST-6 or any Team would not have acted without command authority to do so. You are talking about entering another nation with American SpecOps troops without invitation. An act like that would need the absolute highest authority to go on. So yes, I believe that the President should be given his due for making what is and was a very tough decision, however, the thread title seems to indicate that the President did so alone and I would suggest to you that all the warriors both Team members and intelligence people who got to the point where he could make the decision need to be given their respect as well, and more so, the warriors who ask little and operate out of view are the ones who we really need to thank here as they daily put their lives at risk for us. In other words it was a Team effort.
I find the title of this thread not only insulting to warriors who carried out the mission to take out UBL but also EVERY young warrior sent to that turd hole part of the world. While it's right to give the PResident his credit for making what was a very tough decision to enter into another nation and put at risk American lives to take out UBL, please do not forget the warriors who made this happen. THEY are the HERO's here.
That's the kind of thing that goes without saying because the actual ISSUE is people who want so badly to deny that the President gave the order, they will say anything, no matter how irrational.
In other words, people are trying to say the Seal Team would have done it without his say-so. There is not even a glimmer of truth in that allegation. He couldn't have done it without them, and vice-versa.
First ST-6 or any Team would not have acted without command authority to do so. You are talking about entering another nation with American SpecOps troops without invitation. An act like that would need the absolute highest authority to go on. So yes, I believe that the President should be given his due for making what is and was a very tough decision, however, the thread title seems to indicate that the President did so alone and I would suggest to you that all the warriors both Team members and intelligence people who got to the point where he could make the decision need to be given their respect as well, and more so, the warriors who ask little and operate out of view are the ones who we really need to thank here as they daily put their lives at risk for us. In other words it was a Team effort.
sure you have the right, and i have the right to call you a fucking moron and tell you to go away because you are too stupid to make comments.
Well if the mission failed he would have taken some serious heat for it, as he should have.
No he woudn't. It was all set up before hand. If the mission failed, he would have said it was without authorization by a rogue Admiral. He didn't know anything about it and it wasn't his fault. The only one who risked anything was Admiral McRaven who would have been court martialed if the mission failed.
Are you serious?
And when you have absolutely not a leg to stand on - shoot the messenger.
What makes all this so hilarious is that every single rightwinger on this board is stupid enough to believe that they can honestly turn the killing of Bin Laden into a negative against President Obama.
That is how far removed from normal America these people are.
What makes all this so hilarious is that every single rightwinger on this board is stupid enough to believe that they can honestly turn the killing of Bin Laden into a negative against President Obama.
That is how far removed from normal America these people are.
What makes all this so hilarious is that every single rightwinger on this board is stupid enough to believe that they can honestly turn the killing of Bin Laden into a negative against President Obama.
That is how far removed from normal America these people are.
Well, progressives act like Obamafuck killed OBL himself and was the mastermind behind the operation.
ST-6 killed OBL NOT Obama.
I heard a preview of an interview Brian Williams had with Obama, I'm not sure when it plays, but anyhow,
in it the President graciously gives ample credit to President Bush for his administrations part in the effort.
If the rightwing nuts around here were capable of being embarassed over their idiocy, that would do it.
Of course it won't.
What makes all this so hilarious is that every single rightwinger on this board is stupid enough to believe that they can honestly turn the killing of Bin Laden into a negative against President Obama.
That is how far removed from normal America these people are.
Well, progressives act like Obamafuck killed OBL himself and was the mastermind behind the operation.
ST-6 killed OBL NOT Obama.
puleeze..... buncha rightwingnut whiners....
what bush's ad would have looked like if his admin off'd bin laden:
Video - Jon Stewart asks how Republicans would have reacted had Bush killed bin Laden - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com
Actually Obamination isn't part of the team when he steps into the spotlight and keeps taking the credit for it like he was there. He lost that angle when he twists this into a political gain to show he is a "tough guy."
Giving the ok on a mission that has to be done doesn't make him a hero or a tough guy.
These young warriors of ST-6 and other Teams ask nothing for their dedication and duty, and put themselves at risk 100's of times a year to defend this nation. Take for instance the Maersk Alabama and the pirates taken out by ST members. It was not the person that sent them there that yielded the result, but the efforts of the ALL of those involved. THUS THE WORD TEAM!!! of which in the case of UBL President Obama was part of a team. Again, taking nothing away from what I am sure was and is a very hard decision to put warriors at risk anywhere in the world, let understand that once that word is given it takes the point end of the spear to actually make the kill once the order is given to do so, and these young people risk their lives so that we may live how we do, to be the point end of that spear. They have my utmost respect and admiration, and a hardy job well done!!!! as does the President as part of the American team that got this job done.
Actually Obamination isn't part of the team when he steps into the spotlight and keeps taking the credit for it like he was there. He lost that angle when he twists this into a political gain to show he is a "tough guy."
Giving the ok on a mission that has to be done doesn't make him a hero or a tough guy.
What makes all this so hilarious is that every single rightwinger on this board is stupid enough to believe that they can honestly turn the killing of Bin Laden into a negative against President Obama.
That is how far removed from normal America these people are.
Well, progressives act like Obamafuck killed OBL himself and was the mastermind behind the operation.
ST-6 killed OBL NOT Obama.
puleeze..... buncha rightwingnut whiners....
what bush's ad would have looked like if his admin off'd bin laden:
Video - Jon Stewart asks how Republicans would have reacted had Bush killed bin Laden - National Political Buzz | Examiner.com
Sure it does. President Obama now ranks up there with those great military commanders... Churchill, Patton, MacArthur, Eisenhower, Montgomery.
Oh, you're still here. We're mocking your absence in the Flame Zone, Minute Man.
That's the kind of thing that goes without saying because the actual ISSUE is people who want so badly to deny that the President gave the order, they will say anything, no matter how irrational.
In other words, people are trying to say the Seal Team would have done it without his say-so. There is not even a glimmer of truth in that allegation. He couldn't have done it without them, and vice-versa.
First ST-6 or any Team would not have acted without command authority to do so. You are talking about entering another nation with American SpecOps troops without invitation. An act like that would need the absolute highest authority to go on. So yes, I believe that the President should be given his due for making what is and was a very tough decision, however, the thread title seems to indicate that the President did so alone and I would suggest to you that all the warriors both Team members and intelligence people who got to the point where he could make the decision need to be given their respect as well, and more so, the warriors who ask little and operate out of view are the ones who we really need to thank here as they daily put their lives at risk for us. In other words it was a Team effort.
Quite correct. However, look at the number of people here that absolutely refuse to acknowledge that the President willingly put his Presidency on the line in order to bring justice to Bin Laden. All involved deserve kudos for a good job well done.
Barack Obama’s decision to go after Osama Bin Laden: how the president overruled his advisers in ordering the assassination - Slate Magazine
I don't want to drop this at the tail end of Mud dude's thread (sorry, name escapes me) because I feel it's more newsworthy than that.
Far from the no-brainer that Romney depicts, the secret, high-level discussions leading up to the raid were fraught with intense debate and uncertaintyand Obamas final decisions, on both whether and how to attack, went against some of his top advisers recommendations.
Vice President Joe Biden revealed a few months ago that he had urged Obama not to mount the assault. Bergen and Allison report that Secretary of Defense Robert Gates joined him in the dissentand they explain why.
In the weeks leading up to the decision, a group of counterterrorism officials, after conducting a red-team exercise of what could go wrong in such an attack, estimated that there was only a 40 percent chance Osama Bin Laden was actually in the compound. The CIA put the odds at 60 percent. Bergen quotes Michael Morell, the CIAs deputy director, as telling the president that the circumstantial case of Iraq having WMD was actually stronger than the circumstantial case that bin Laden is living in the Abbottabad compound.
Faced with these uncertainties, a president could have been forgiven for holding back. Certainly, a decision to go ahead was no slam dunk. More to the point, if Obama had given the order, and it turned out that Bin Laden wasnt there, it is an absolute sure thing that, one year later, Romney and his allies would still be lampooning Obama for his foolhardy recklessness and accusing him of letting the worlds No. 1 terrorist slip through our fingers, perhaps this time for good.
