CDZ Barack Obama...Greatest President of Modern times

[Sun Devil 92]

Just talked to someone I work with (retired and back as a contractor)

He used to pay $800/month for insurance (way to expensive).

Now he is paying $1,900 month. I had to ask him three times to make sure I heard the "month" part right.

 

[rightwinger]

 

[rightwinger]

 

[Sun Devil 92]

What a lovely chart. Of course if you look at the numbers....some things immediately jump out at you.

Obama took over a stock market that was depressed.

Guess what...the market always recovers for the most part. It has since the Great Depression. Obama got a market that had already been up over 14,000. So he gets props for adding about (18/14 - 1.....or 30%). Reagan got a market that had been flat at 950 most of Carters presidency. He goes from 950 to 2,700 or (27/9.5....almost 300%).

Anyone who knows the market knows that nobody thinks Obama has done anything of substance and such an analysis is much closer to the truth.

Clinton knocked it out of the park even farther because he got a market that had already been smoking hot for a decade and still ran it up 300%.

Obama is a loser.

 

[Roudy]

It really does not matter.

By the end of his term, Reagan (for all his faults) was found to be a good president. History has been good to him since.

Obama can only hope.

Unfortunately for him, it looks like he'll go the way of Carter and become less popular with time.

Reagan's legacy is fading

Reaganomics destroyed the middle class

Reagan's legacy is what ????

His backbone is missed more than ever.

Reaganomics was practiced by many presidents...it isn't Reaganomics....it's a policy package.

The Reagan Revolution was a house of cards that collapsed on the middle class

No...that would be your unsupported arguments.

There was never any depression....and Obama's meddling probably hindered the recovery.

Great legacy.

Never was a depression...we can thank Obama for that

What we did have was 750,000 job losses a month, collapsing banks and auto companies and a stock market that had lost half its value

Depression? maybe not, but as close as you dare come

Damn what a lame revision. The collapse of 2008 was mostly the Dems fault for forcing the banks to give out shady loans. There was no depression. Obama simply continued yet grossly mishandled Bush's stimulus package. He has a way of fucking everything up royally. Just like he did after Bush stabilized Iraq with the Surge.

True story.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Obama's created more part time jobs than any president in history.

Now, that's success.

 

[Roudy]

He's also the greatest at creating the greatest number of people on welfare and food stamp receipients. Truly, what a "great" president.

HHS Report: Percentage of Americans on Welfare Hits Recorded High

 

[MadDog]

You neglected who was a better President and why

Then we can compare notes

Who was a better president? That's easy.

Harry Truman
Dwight Eisenhower
John Kennedy
Lyndon Johnson
Richard Nixon
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan
George H. W. Bush
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush
(John McCain and Mitt Romney WOULD have been)

Why? That's easy, too.

Barrack Obama is the worst president since James Buchanan

 

[rightwinger]

What a lovely chart. Of course if you look at the numbers....some things immediately jump out at you.

Obama took over a stock market that was depressed.

Guess what...the market always recovers for the most part. It has since the Great Depression. Obama got a market that had already been up over 14,000. So he gets props for adding about (18/14 - 1.....or 30%). Reagan got a market that had been flat at 950 most of Carters presidency. He goes from 950 to 2,700 or (27/9.5....almost 300%).

Anyone who knows the market knows that nobody thinks Obama has done anything of substance and such an analysis is much closer to the truth.

Clinton knocked it out of the park even farther because he got a market that had already been smoking hot for a decade and still ran it up 300%.

Obama is a loser.

Obama took over a market that was in a panic
Investors were bailing and driving up the gold market. One of the first thing Obama did was make it clear that the US Governement would stand behind the banks....the banks would not fail
He also had the government put money into the economy when everyone else was pulling out

The panic subsided and the market recovered

 

[rightwinger]

You neglected who was a better President and why

Then we can compare notes

Who was a better president? That's easy.

Harry Truman
Dwight Eisenhower
John Kennedy
Lyndon Johnson
Richard Nixon
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan
George H. W. Bush
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush
(John McCain and Mitt Romney WOULD have been)

Why? That's easy, too.

Barrack Obama is the worst president since James Buchanan

You left off the all important why

Name the President and what you think their lasting legacy was and we can discuss

 

[Sun Devil 92]

What a lovely chart. Of course if you look at the numbers....some things immediately jump out at you.

Obama took over a stock market that was depressed.

Guess what...the market always recovers for the most part. It has since the Great Depression. Obama got a market that had already been up over 14,000. So he gets props for adding about (18/14 - 1.....or 30%). Reagan got a market that had been flat at 950 most of Carters presidency. He goes from 950 to 2,700 or (27/9.5....almost 300%).

Anyone who knows the market knows that nobody thinks Obama has done anything of substance and such an analysis is much closer to the truth.

Clinton knocked it out of the park even farther because he got a market that had already been smoking hot for a decade and still ran it up 300%.

Obama is a loser.

Obama took over a market that was in a panic
Investors were bailing and driving up the gold market. One of the first thing Obama did was make it clear that the US Governement would stand behind the banks....the banks would not fail
He also had the government put money into the economy when everyone else was pulling out

The panic subsided and the market recovered

Yeah, it recovered. It got back to where it had been eventually.

You dodged that entire point. Obama didn't take it to new heights.

If he had kept his mouth shut, it might have gotten there faster.

Markets nearly tripled (from previous highs) under Reagan and Clinton.

With Obama, we've gotten 30%. Big whoop.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

You neglected who was a better President and why

Then we can compare notes

Who was a better president? That's easy.

Harry Truman
Dwight Eisenhower
John Kennedy
Lyndon Johnson
Richard Nixon
Gerald Ford
Jimmy Carter
Ronald Reagan
George H. W. Bush
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush
(John McCain and Mitt Romney WOULD have been)

Why? That's easy, too.

Barrack Obama is the worst president since James Buchanan

Not sure about Johnson, Ford or Bush II.
Carter is marginal.

What we are seeing here is not a discussion of who's better and why.

What we are getting is far left talking points pulled from Valerie Jarrett's ass.

 

[rightwinger]

What a lovely chart. Of course if you look at the numbers....some things immediately jump out at you.

Obama took over a stock market that was depressed.

Guess what...the market always recovers for the most part. It has since the Great Depression. Obama got a market that had already been up over 14,000. So he gets props for adding about (18/14 - 1.....or 30%). Reagan got a market that had been flat at 950 most of Carters presidency. He goes from 950 to 2,700 or (27/9.5....almost 300%).

Anyone who knows the market knows that nobody thinks Obama has done anything of substance and such an analysis is much closer to the truth.

Clinton knocked it out of the park even farther because he got a market that had already been smoking hot for a decade and still ran it up 300%.

Obama is a loser.

Obama took over a market that was in a panic
Investors were bailing and driving up the gold market. One of the first thing Obama did was make it clear that the US Governement would stand behind the banks....the banks would not fail
He also had the government put money into the economy when everyone else was pulling out

The panic subsided and the market recovered

Yeah, it recovered. It got back to where it had been eventually.

You dodged that entire point. Obama didn't take it to new heights.

If he had kept his mouth shut, it might have gotten there faster.

Markets nearly tripled (from previous highs) under Reagan and Clinton.

With Obama, we've gotten 30%. Big whoop.

The market has nearly tripled from its low of 6700
Yes, that is a big whoop

 

[Toro]

No. He has been a poor President.

- He has been a divider more than a uniter
- He has weakened America's standing in the world
- The economic recovery has been weak by historical standards
- He has not improved the long term fiscal balance of the nation.
- Even though he was reelected, his Presidency has seen the biggest Congresional swing in modern times.

Of course, none of these are all his fault, but his actions have contributed to all of them.

I would say that only Bush 43 was worse.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

What a lovely chart. Of course if you look at the numbers....some things immediately jump out at you.

Obama took over a stock market that was depressed.

Guess what...the market always recovers for the most part. It has since the Great Depression. Obama got a market that had already been up over 14,000. So he gets props for adding about (18/14 - 1.....or 30%). Reagan got a market that had been flat at 950 most of Carters presidency. He goes from 950 to 2,700 or (27/9.5....almost 300%).

Anyone who knows the market knows that nobody thinks Obama has done anything of substance and such an analysis is much closer to the truth.

Clinton knocked it out of the park even farther because he got a market that had already been smoking hot for a decade and still ran it up 300%.

Obama is a loser.

Obama took over a market that was in a panic
Investors were bailing and driving up the gold market. One of the first thing Obama did was make it clear that the US Governement would stand behind the banks....the banks would not fail
He also had the government put money into the economy when everyone else was pulling out

The panic subsided and the market recovered

Yeah, it recovered. It got back to where it had been eventually.

You dodged that entire point. Obama didn't take it to new heights.

If he had kept his mouth shut, it might have gotten there faster.

Markets nearly tripled (from previous highs) under Reagan and Clinton.

With Obama, we've gotten 30%. Big whoop.

The market has nearly tripled from its low of 6700
Yes, that is a big whoop

He got a market that has already been at 14,000.

It was going there anyway. Already been pointed out...or would you like to review market performance in the past 50 years ?

So, get's no credit for something that was going to happen anyway.

30% growth...pathetic.

1/10th of Clinton.

Obama is worse than sucks.

If we use RW approach, Reagan moved the market 500%. He gets credit for the overall rise plus the recovery that happened after Black Tuesday. That drop which saw the market drop 35% was erased in six months. Obama took how many YEARS to get back what was already there ?

He's been a disaster.

He was worse that Bush II on the market overall.

 

[rightwinger]

What a lovely chart. Of course if you look at the numbers....some things immediately jump out at you.

Obama took over a stock market that was depressed.

Guess what...the market always recovers for the most part. It has since the Great Depression. Obama got a market that had already been up over 14,000. So he gets props for adding about (18/14 - 1.....or 30%). Reagan got a market that had been flat at 950 most of Carters presidency. He goes from 950 to 2,700 or (27/9.5....almost 300%).

Anyone who knows the market knows that nobody thinks Obama has done anything of substance and such an analysis is much closer to the truth.

Clinton knocked it out of the park even farther because he got a market that had already been smoking hot for a decade and still ran it up 300%.

Obama is a loser.

Obama took over a market that was in a panic
Investors were bailing and driving up the gold market. One of the first thing Obama did was make it clear that the US Governement would stand behind the banks....the banks would not fail
He also had the government put money into the economy when everyone else was pulling out

The panic subsided and the market recovered

Yeah, it recovered. It got back to where it had been eventually.

You dodged that entire point. Obama didn't take it to new heights.

If he had kept his mouth shut, it might have gotten there faster.

Markets nearly tripled (from previous highs) under Reagan and Clinton.

With Obama, we've gotten 30%. Big whoop.

The market has nearly tripled from its low of 6700
Yes, that is a big whoop

He got a market that has already been at 14,000.

It was going there anyway. Already been pointed out...or would you like to review market performance in the past 50 years ?

So, get's no credit for something that was going to happen anyway.

30% growth...pathetic.

1/10th of Clinton.

Obama is worse than sucks.

If we use RW approach, Reagan moved the market 500%. He gets credit for the overall rise plus the recovery that happened after Black Tuesday. That drop which saw the market drop 35% was erased in six months. Obama took how many YEARS to get back what was already there ?

He's been a disaster.

He was worse that Bush II on the market overall.

Like most things Obama...
Republicans claim...it would have happened anyway

No, it wouldn't have happened. What would have happened if Obama did not stand behind the market, put money into the economy and save the banks and auto companies is we would have seen a full scale depression
20% unemployment and a useless dollar

 

[Sun Devil 92]

What a lovely chart. Of course if you look at the numbers....some things immediately jump out at you.

Obama took over a stock market that was depressed.

Guess what...the market always recovers for the most part. It has since the Great Depression. Obama got a market that had already been up over 14,000. So he gets props for adding about (18/14 - 1.....or 30%). Reagan got a market that had been flat at 950 most of Carters presidency. He goes from 950 to 2,700 or (27/9.5....almost 300%).

Anyone who knows the market knows that nobody thinks Obama has done anything of substance and such an analysis is much closer to the truth.

Clinton knocked it out of the park even farther because he got a market that had already been smoking hot for a decade and still ran it up 300%.

Obama is a loser.

Obama took over a market that was in a panic
Investors were bailing and driving up the gold market. One of the first thing Obama did was make it clear that the US Governement would stand behind the banks....the banks would not fail
He also had the government put money into the economy when everyone else was pulling out

The panic subsided and the market recovered

Yeah, it recovered. It got back to where it had been eventually.

You dodged that entire point. Obama didn't take it to new heights.

If he had kept his mouth shut, it might have gotten there faster.

Markets nearly tripled (from previous highs) under Reagan and Clinton.

With Obama, we've gotten 30%. Big whoop.

The market has nearly tripled from its low of 6700
Yes, that is a big whoop

He got a market that has already been at 14,000.

It was going there anyway. Already been pointed out...or would you like to review market performance in the past 50 years ?

So, get's no credit for something that was going to happen anyway.

30% growth...pathetic.

1/10th of Clinton.

Obama is worse than sucks.

If we use RW approach, Reagan moved the market 500%. He gets credit for the overall rise plus the recovery that happened after Black Tuesday. That drop which saw the market drop 35% was erased in six months. Obama took how many YEARS to get back what was already there ?

He's been a disaster.

He was worse that Bush II on the market overall.

Like most things Obama...
Republicans claim...it would have happened anyway

No, it wouldn't have happened. What would have happened if Obama did not stand behind the market, put money into the economy and save the banks and auto companies is we would have seen a full scale depression
20% unemployment and a useless dollar

Waiter....waiter.....can I get something to go with this meme ?

Also, my side hurts from laughing so hard.

BTW: I am not a republican.......

I am someone who deals in facts.

Fact: Obama got a stock market that had already been at 14,000. It wasn't over valued. It reacted to a short term mess.

 

[Roudy]

Is there another president that is worse? He's definitely worse than Carter even, however during Carter's time the leftist dominated media wasn't a well oiled propaganda machine and an arm of the Democratic party.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Is there another president that is worse? He's definitely worse than Carter even, however during Carter's time the leftist dominated media wasn't a well oiled propaganda machine and an arm of the Democratic party.

I will agree with your assessment of the press.

Clinton was a master at working the press....

Both sides do it.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What a lovely chart. Of course if you look at the numbers....some things immediately jump out at you.

Obama took over a stock market that was depressed.

Guess what...the market always recovers for the most part. It has since the Great Depression. Obama got a market that had already been up over 14,000. So he gets props for adding about (18/14 - 1.....or 30%). Reagan got a market that had been flat at 950 most of Carters presidency. He goes from 950 to 2,700 or (27/9.5....almost 300%).

Anyone who knows the market knows that nobody thinks Obama has done anything of substance and such an analysis is much closer to the truth.

Clinton knocked it out of the park even farther because he got a market that had already been smoking hot for a decade and still ran it up 300%.

Obama is a loser.

Obama took over a market that was in a panic
Investors were bailing and driving up the gold market. One of the first thing Obama did was make it clear that the US Governement would stand behind the banks....the banks would not fail
He also had the government put money into the economy when everyone else was pulling out

The panic subsided and the market recovered

Yeah, it recovered. It got back to where it had been eventually.

You dodged that entire point. Obama didn't take it to new heights.

If he had kept his mouth shut, it might have gotten there faster.

Markets nearly tripled (from previous highs) under Reagan and Clinton.

With Obama, we've gotten 30%. Big whoop.

The market has nearly tripled from its low of 6700
Yes, that is a big whoop

He got a market that has already been at 14,000.

It was going there anyway. Already been pointed out...or would you like to review market performance in the past 50 years ?

So, get's no credit for something that was going to happen anyway.

30% growth...pathetic.

1/10th of Clinton.

Obama is worse than sucks.

If we use RW approach, Reagan moved the market 500%. He gets credit for the overall rise plus the recovery that happened after Black Tuesday. That drop which saw the market drop 35% was erased in six months. Obama took how many YEARS to get back what was already there ?

He's been a disaster.

He was worse that Bush II on the market overall.

Like most things Obama...
Republicans claim...it would have happened anyway

No, it wouldn't have happened. What would have happened if Obama did not stand behind the market, put money into the economy and save the banks and auto companies is we would have seen a full scale depression
20% unemployment and a useless dollar

This, in spite of the FACT it was Repubs who brought the entire world to the brink of total financial ruin.

Obama has made some amazing accomplishments. The RWNJs all benefit from his hard work but that doesn't stop them from lying about him.