AUTOMATIC BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP And Comp. Immig. Reform.

[Unkotare]

AUTOMATIC BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP
And Comp. Immig. Reform.

Comp. Immig. Reform will deal with the 11.9 million already here with Amnesty and mandatory E-Verify with a penalty and the future wave of illegals, but how will it deal with the new wave of illegals entering on visas and having anchor babies eligible for all the benefits of welfare, food stamps, Medicaid and public housing but E-Verify prevents them from working? Will they be given green cards and put on a path to citizenship and family eligible for family re-unification? Business as usual. I am curious as to how the gang of 8 idiots plan to deal with that existing automatic birthright citizenship incentive problem that will continue to provide a new wave of illegals and their families. Answer is they can’t unless they deal directly with automatic birthright citizenship.

The constitution provides that if you are born here, you are a citizen.

or should we have designation by blood or ethnicity? you know, like in nazi german or russia.

No, it doesn't! Its merely been a PC policy to grant babies born from illegal aliens our birthright citizenship. This nonsense needs to stop.

no. it is what the amendment provides and the supreme court has held.

but thanks for your unsubstantiated opinion.

Not an opinion.

A wrong opinion, oldgloryhole.

 

[Mudda]

Children of Mexicans who are born here should automatically get Mexican citizenship and be deported there. Along with their parents, relatives and assorted donkeys...

 

[Unkotare]

Children of Mexicans who are born here should automatically get Mexican citizenship and be deported there. Along with their parents, relatives and assorted donkeys...

Your "should" does not have the authority of Constitutional law, nitwit.

 

[abu afak]

There is NO Auto-Birthright citizenship for Illegal immgrant offspring.
It has Not been adjudicated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birthr...Modern_dispute

Modern dispute
In the late 1990s opposition arose over the longstanding practice of granting automatic citizenship on a jus soli basis as fears grew in some circles that the existing law encouraged parents-to-be to come to the United States to have children in order to improve the parents' chances of attaining legal residency themselves. Some media correspondents and public leaders, including former congressman Virgil Goode, have controversially dubbed this the "anchor baby" situation,[61] and politicians have proposed legislation on this basis that might alter how birthright citizenship is awarded.

The Pew Hispanic Center determined that according to an analysis of Census Bureau data about 8% of children born in the United States in 2008 — about 340,000 — were offspring of illegal immigrants. In total, about four million American-born children of illegal immigrant parents resided in this country in 2009, along with about 1.1 million foreign-born children of illegal immigrant parents. The Center for Immigration Studies—a think tank which favors stricter controls on immigration—claims that between 300,000 and 400,000 children are born each year to illegal immigrants in the U.S.

Bills have been introduced from time to time in Congress which have sought to declare American-born children of foreign nationals Not to be "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States", and thus not entitled to citizenship via the 14th Amendment, unless at least one parent was an American citizen or a lawful permanent resident.

Both Democrats and Republicans have introduced legislation aimed at narrowing the application of the Citizenship Clause. In 1993, Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) introduced legislation that would limit birthright citizenship to the children of U.S. citizens and legally resident aliens, and similar bills have been introduced by other legislators in every Congress since. For example, U.S. Representative Nathan Deal, a Republican from the State of Georgia, introduced the "Citizenship Reform Act of 2005" (HR 698) in the 109th Congress, the "Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007" (HR 1940) in the 110th Congress, and the "Birthright Citizenship Act of 2009" (HR 1868)[ in the 111th Congress. However, neither these nor any similar bill has ever been passed by Congress.

Some legislators, unsure whether such Acts of Congress would survive court challenges, have proposed that the Citizenship Clause be changed through a constitutional amendment.[70] Senate Joint Resolution 6, introduced on January 16, 2009 in the 111th Congress, proposes such an amendment; however, neither this, nor any other proposed amendment, has yet been approved by Congress for ratification by the states.

The most recent judge to weigh in on the issue as to whether a constitutional amendment would be necessary to change the policy is Judge Richard Posner who remarked in a 2003 case that "Congress would Not be flouting the Constitution if it amended the Immigration and Nationality Act to put an End to the Nonsense." He explained, "A constitutional amendment May be required to change the rule whereby birth in this country automatically confers U.S. citizenship, but I Doubt it." Posner also wrote, that automatic birthright citizenship is a policy that "Congress should rethink" and that the United States "should not be encouraging foreigners to come to the United States solely to enable them to confer U.S. citizenship on their future children."

Professor Edward J. Erler of the California State University has argued that "Congress began to pass legislation offering citizenship to Indians on a tribe by tribe basis. Finally, in 1923, there was a universal offer to all tribes. Any Indian who consented could become an American citizen. This citizenship was based on reciprocal consent: an offer on the part of the U.S. and acceptance on the part of an individual.
Thus Congress used its legislative powers under the Fourteenth Amendment to determine who was within the jurisdiction of the U.S. It could make a similar determination today, based on this legislative precedent, that children born in the U.S. to illegal aliens are Not subject to American jurisdiction.
A constitutional amendment is No more required now than it was in 1923."....​

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[Mudda]

Children of Mexicans who are born here should automatically get Mexican citizenship and be deported there. Along with their parents, relatives and assorted donkeys...

Your "should" does not have the authority of Constitutional law, nitwit.

You think I expected it to? Numbskull.

 

[LilOlLady]

Children of Mexicans who are born here should automatically get Mexican citizenship and be deported there. Along with their parents, relatives and assorted donkeys...

Your "should" does not have the authority of Constitutional law, nitwit.

They are already Mexican citizens because their mothers are Mexican citizens.