Do I not have a right to my own property? Shouldn't I be CONVICTED of a crime before my property becomes forfeit?
According to SCOTUS, No.
Then we, as a people, should demand that law be changed.
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Do I not have a right to my own property? Shouldn't I be CONVICTED of a crime before my property becomes forfeit?
According to SCOTUS, No.
Do I not have a right to my own property? Shouldn't I be CONVICTED of a crime before my property becomes forfeit?
You are pulled over and a cop find a large amount of cash (without a bank receipt) and drug paraphernalia, you should get to keep the cash and the drug paraphernalia?
I should be arrested for the drug paraphernalia and my property held as evidence of a crime. But, I don't lose ownership unless I'm convicted of a crime.
and the loss of ownership has to be comparable to the crime. One should not lose 10k in cash over a hash pipe.
I don't think that there should be an automatic assumption that large amounts of cash is only related to drug use.
I should be arrested for the drug paraphernalia and my property held as evidence of a crime. But, I don't lose ownership unless I'm convicted of a crime.
So does anyone think asset forfeiture is a good policy? There occurs when law enforcement charges someone with a crime and seizes their assets. Sometimes people arent even charged. Just a seizure. Then there is an extensive ad expensive procedure to appeal and get the asset back. With any luck.
On the plus side, it brings millions of dollars to law enforcement agencies who often struggle with budget cuts.
So what do people think?
Sorry, not even charged with insider trading.
and the loss of ownership has to be comparable to the crime. One should not lose 10k in cash over a hash pipe.
I don't think that there should be an automatic assumption that large amounts of cash is only related to drug use.
No, it isnt.and the loss of ownership has to be comparable to the crime. One should not lose 10k in cash over a hash pipe.
10K in cash without a bank receipt is money laundering.
and the loss of ownership has to be comparable to the crime. One should not lose 10k in cash over a hash pipe.
10K in cash without a bank receipt is money laundering.
No, it isnt.
I knew a thread liek this would smoke out the real statist assholes. You rose right to the bait.
There's that "no person deprived of life liberty or property withouut due process" thing you keep forgetting. Getting arrested is not a conviction. Getting arrested is not due process. I could arrest you right now for impersonating a police officer.
That isnt a response.No, it isnt.
I knew a thread liek this would smoke out the real statist assholes. You rose right to the bait.
There's that "no person deprived of life liberty or property withouut due process" thing you keep forgetting. Getting arrested is not a conviction. Getting arrested is not due process. I could arrest you right now for impersonating a police officer.
The next time you are at the bank deposit 10k cash in your account and watch what happens.
The police have to apply to the courts in order to keep the assets. A hearing is held. You have the right to challenge. There is your due process.
No, there'sa lot of common sense.and the loss of ownership has to be comparable to the crime. One should not lose 10k in cash over a hash pipe.
10K in cash without a bank receipt is money laundering.
I saw a story recently where a cash business has had their revenue from their legimate business frozen....
That's the problem with this type of law...There doesn't seem to be a bit of common sense in it.
Sorry, not even charged with insider trading.
Charges related to insider trading, (Lying about a stock sale, conspiracy, and obstruction of justice) Having problems with English? You Canadian also?
and the loss of ownership has to be comparable to the crime. One should not lose 10k in cash over a hash pipe.
10K in cash without a bank receipt is money laundering.
He's factually challenged. That's a nice way of saying he's a liar.Sorry, not even charged with insider trading.
Charges related to insider trading, (Lying about a stock sale, conspiracy, and obstruction of justice) Having problems with English? You Canadian also?
She didn't commit insider trading, she wasn't charged with insider trading, she wasn't convicted of insider trading.
Having problems with English as well as math?
I saw a story recently where a cash business has had their revenue from their legimate business frozen....
That's the problem with this type of law...There doesn't seem to be a bit of common sense in it.
He's factually challenged. That's a nice way of saying he's a liar.Sorry, not even charged with insider trading.
Charges related to insider trading, (Lying about a stock sale, conspiracy, and obstruction of justice) Having problems with English? You Canadian also?
She didn't commit insider trading, she wasn't charged with insider trading, she wasn't convicted of insider trading.
Having problems with English as well as math?
That isnt a response.
Holding 10k in cash is not money laundering. It is holding 10k in cash.
Police confiscate assets unrelated to the crime and out of proportion to the evidence. Getting them returned is expensive and time consuming and often out of the range of the average person.
He's factually challenged. That's a nice way of saying he's a liar.
That isnt a response.No, it isnt.
I knew a thread liek this would smoke out the real statist assholes. You rose right to the bait.
There's that "no person deprived of life liberty or property withouut due process" thing you keep forgetting. Getting arrested is not a conviction. Getting arrested is not due process. I could arrest you right now for impersonating a police officer.
The next time you are at the bank deposit 10k cash in your account and watch what happens.
The police have to apply to the courts in order to keep the assets. A hearing is held. You have the right to challenge. There is your due process.
Holding 10k in cash is not money laundering. It is holding 10k in cash.
Police confiscate assets unrelated to the crime and out of proportion to the evidence. Getting them returned is expensive and time consuming and often out of the range of the average person.