As Iraqis dance, Dems as usual spoil the party

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Not since the last vote has the world witnessed Iraqis dancing in the streets... But sadly, the Democratic Party led by Representative John Murtha stunk up the party.

Iraqi police celebrate in the holy city of Najaf after hearing Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki announce the death of Al-Qaeda leader in Iraq Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.(AFP/Qassem Zein)

Freedom for Egyptians has more celebration pictures from Iraq.

But, it didn’t take long for democrats to trash this great military success:


"This is just to cover Bush's [rear] so he doesn't have to answer" for Iraqi civilians being killed by the U.S. military and his own sagging poll numbers.


Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich, Ohio Democrat, said Zarqawi was a small part of "a growing anti-American insurgency" and that it's time to get out.

"We're there for all the wrong reasons," Mr. Kucinich said.
Scott Thill at the Huffington Post was equally disappointed:




But the most outlandish comments came from the official spokesman of the democratic party on military affairs, and antiwar hawk John Murtha in his interview this morning on CNN:


CAROL LIN, CNN ANCHOR: Fred, one of the most vocal critics of troops in Iraq is Congressman John Murtha. He -- last November, as recently as last November, asked -- called for U.S. troops to be withdrawn. He joins me now live with reaction to this death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Congressman, it is a pleasure to have you, an outspoken critic in this war, but a very big day for this administration. Is it fair to say that this attack and the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi wouldn't have happened if U.S. troops were not on the ground?

REP. JOHN MURTHA (D), PENNSYLVANIA: Well, I'm not sure about that. I'm not sure it was a bomb that killed him from the air. So I'm not sure about that. But one thing for sure, this is significant. This is significant, two aspects. One is the fact that Zarqawi is killed, but also the fact that they appointed a defense minister and an interior minister. There's no question we can't win this militarily. So it's a matter of time. The Iraqis are getting better. I think the intelligence came from the Iraqis, as I understand it. Now, this is the early reports. And it came to the security forces and the Iraqis and then passed on to the Americans. So this was a key element. Whether they could have done this themselves in this isolated area, I don't know.

But one thing for sure, this is significant to get rid of a real thorn in the side of the Americans. And of course, what I've been saying over and over again is the economic situation is not improving and the public has lost faith in what's going on. And when you have less electricity, less oil production and so forth, we've got a long ways to go. But this is very significant, and I hope the Bush administration will take this as a signal to start working diplomatically with these other countries in trying to reduce our presence as quickly as we can from this $8 billion cost per month.

LIN: But, congressman, I'm hearing two things from you. Yes, a major victory certainly due credit goes to the U.S. forces and the Iraqi forces on the ground. I want to play back to you what Tony Snow, White House spokesperson, said earlier today.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

TONY SNOW, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECY.: Why are you so hellbent on saying we're going to get out tomorrow? You know, make a good news headline. But the facts on the ground, we've got six additional dead guys out of the terror network. But there is still a significant problem here.

(END VIDEO CLIP)a

LIN: That was the answer to reporters saying, all right, let's -- is the president going to be talking about troop withdrawal? Is that the next conversation to have with military commanders on the ground? Tony Snow also went on to say to critics who say -- people who are calling for a pullout, that he has to ask, what is the best way to win? Today was a winning strike, congressman. Is there value to having U.S. forces still in Iraq?

MURTHA: Well, it's costing us $9 billion a month. It's cost us so far up to $450 billion by the end of this year, and the 2,400 lives that we've lost. What I'm saying is, we've got the Iraqis trained, you've got a government in place; now It's time to said a schedule for the withdrawal and the redeployment of American forces.
Just to put things in perspective, here are war cost figures from the American War Library:

American Revolution: $3.2 billion.
War of 1812: $1 billion.
Mexican War: $1.8 billion.
Civil War: $50 billion Union, $21.8 billion Confederacy.
Spanish-American War: $6.5 billion.
World War I: $588 billion.
World War II: $4.8 trillion.
Korean War: $408 billion.
Vietnam War: $584 billion.
Persian Gulf War of 1991: $82 billion. Contributions from U.S. allies ended up covering more than 90 percent of this war's costs.
Operation Iraqi Freedom: $197 billion, as of March 2006.
 
Bonnie said:

Hey Bonnie, this matter is sort of being discussed in the thread titled "Bonus Points" in the WOT board. You might be interested in giving that thread a read.

To give a quick summary of my point: I think liberals are happy Zarquawi has been taken out of the picture, it is just important that America realizes Zarquawi is not as much to blame for Iraq's problems, as the nation's social structures.
 

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