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[PubliusInfinitum]

Jesus christ is that Chicago or Iraq?

The home of your hero.

Funny I thought Obama stopped this when he was reaching out to the community? He had to fixed it to go from that to President. Chicago must be the safest city in American because Obama fixed it right. Just like he is going to fix America. YAY

Stopped it? Buddy that the the Rev' Wright way, right there...

That is what Hussein organized... Little Anarchists taking charge of their lives, hatin' on the Po-po... and anyone that adhere's to anything approaching American values.

What you see in that video is Socialism in action... the majority imparting their will on the minority.

 

[Si modo]

Jesus christ is that Chicago or Iraq?

The home of your hero.

Funny I thought Obama stopped this when he was reaching out to the community? He had to fixed it to go from that to President. Chicago must be the safest city in American because Obama fixed it right. Just like he is going to fix America. YAY

Stopped it? Buddy that the the Rev' Wright way, right there...

That is what Hussein organized... Little Anarchists taking charge of their lives, hatin' on the Po-po... and anyone that adhere's to anything approaching American values.

What you see in that video is Socialism in action... the majority imparting their will on the minority.

[Emphasis mine] Yup. Strive for mediocrity.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

all cities have problems with gangs. they've also moved into the suburbs as well. look at Calif. their over run with gang warfare. that's one of many reasons residents are leaving there. they even have a website

Street Gangs Resource Center - Los Angeles and California | The Gang Experts | Bloods | Crips | Surenos | 18th Street | Mara Salvatrucha

the most feared and dangerous is the MS-13 which has spread nationwide. heavily armed and finaced from south america. and has murdered many Americans. hell they murder each other

[youtube]DTGNwSARj9A[/youtube]

You make that last sound like a bad thing.

I imagine most big cities are pretty bad when it comes to gangs. Having lived in Chicago, I saw it first hand. When I moved to Denver, gangs were miniscule in comparison, and here in Toledo, they aren't that strong here either.

The bottom line is that none of this will ever change until men begin to act like fathers to their kids. In minority communities the problem is greatly exasperated as very few fathers are there for their kids. In the Black community it is the worst. How do we change this, or can we?

Yeah... it's just awful...

I just wish there was some way to know who it is that is out their clambering for lower cultural standards, promoting debacuhery, rejecting individual responsibility; rationalizing criminal behavior as somehow excusable because it's a function of environment...

MAN! IF WE JUST KNEW WHO IT WAS!

WHO is out there telling the minorities that white America owes them something?

WHO is out there apologizing for the ills perpetrated on 'da poh...'

Oh how could this have happened? HOW could we have POSSIBLY seen it comin'?

Of course, we need to keep in mind, that those murderin' fools are Americans... just like you and I and dey gots rights... and just 'cause you dun seen'em kicking the dat boie to deaf, don't mean dey guilty naih... dey just misunderstood, datsall.

We needs to comes togedda and stop all this hatin'... and trying to put da blame on ebbywun...

Cumown naih!

 

[rayboyusmc]

Funny I thought Obama stopped this when he was reaching out to the community?

You are an idiot. How many years ago was Obama working there as a Community Organizer. And nobody said he stopped it, dipshit.

It's shit head remarks like that, the politically parallel the stupidity of the gangs and their violence.

 

[WillowTree]

Video: Teen Attacked, Beaten to Death in Melee - Chicago Breaking News

Why don't you try reading what's already been posted, you may find you are a little too fucking late dumbass!!!

lonestar you are outta line. If you pay attention to what Kaman posted you might learn something. For instance.. the newslady just said there were two police cars sitting there watching this shit go down! And did not move to help.

 

[rayboyusmc]

I guess it's the white devils who run Chicago that caused this.

Is that your opinion or fact?

 

[Lost Soul]

Funny I thought Obama stopped this when he was reaching out to the community?

You are an idiot. How many years ago was Obama working there as a Community Organizer. And nobody said he stopped it, dipshit.

It's shit head remarks like that, the politically parallel the stupidity of the gangs and their violence.

Moron wake the fuck up punk. People voted for Obama not knowing a damn thing about the piece of shit and thinking he was the next Messiah.

He claims to have the answer for everything yet the city he comes from is worst off than Iraq yet we put in in charge of fixing Iraq?

Its sorry piece of shit like you that put him in office.

 

[Luissa]

Funny I thought Obama stopped this when he was reaching out to the community?

You are an idiot. How many years ago was Obama working there as a Community Organizer. And nobody said he stopped it, dipshit.

It's shit head remarks like that, the politically parallel the stupidity of the gangs and their violence.

Moron wake the fuck up punk. People voted for Obama not knowing a damn thing about the piece of shit and thinking he was the next Messiah.

He claims to have the answer for everything yet the city he comes from is worst off than Iraq yet we put in in charge of fixing Iraq?

Its sorry piece of shit like you that put him in office.

and you an idiot for blaming or thinking one guy could solve the problems in Chicago. Did you blame Bush for the violence in the whole country?
If you want to blame anyone here blame the people who started the drug war.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Video: Teen Attacked, Beaten to Death in Melee - Chicago Breaking News

Why don't you try reading what's already been posted, you may find you are a little too fucking late dumbass!!!

lonestar you are outta line. If you pay attention to what Kaman posted you might learn something. For instance.. the newslady just said there were two police cars sitting there watching this shit go down! And did not move to help.

There was no newslady speaking on the video Kman provided. No mention of two police cars. As for me being out of line? That's nothing new since I'm not a follower. I find I step out of line quite a bit, but it works for me.

 

[WillowTree]

Why don't you try reading what's already been posted, you may find you are a little too fucking late dumbass!!!

lonestar you are outta line. If you pay attention to what Kaman posted you might learn something. For instance.. the newslady just said there were two police cars sitting there watching this shit go down! And did not move to help.

There was no newslady speaking on the video Kman provided. No mention of two police cars. As for me being out of line? That's nothing new since I'm not a follower. I find I step out of line quite a bit, but it works for me.

yes hell there was. it's right there. where do you think I got it from?

 

[WillowTree]

Video: Teen Attacked, Beaten to Death in Melee - Chicago Breaking News



click the link. see the black newslady on the right.. click on that video and learn something whyconchya?

 

[Lost Soul]

You are an idiot. How many years ago was Obama working there as a Community Organizer. And nobody said he stopped it, dipshit.

It's shit head remarks like that, the politically parallel the stupidity of the gangs and their violence.

Moron wake the fuck up punk. People voted for Obama not knowing a damn thing about the piece of shit and thinking he was the next Messiah.

He claims to have the answer for everything yet the city he comes from is worst off than Iraq yet we put in in charge of fixing Iraq?

Its sorry piece of shit like you that put him in office.

and you an idiot for blaming or thinking one guy could solve the problems in Chicago. Did you blame Bush for the violence in the whole country?
If you want to blame anyone here blame the people who started the drug war.

"and you an idiot"........I think you cleared that up for everyone who is the idiot.

You would think the man that has all the answers for America would've he at least have a few for Chicago? This is his city that he claimed he made a better place for the inner city youth. He claimed he reached out to help. He claimed is and he claimed that and its quite clear he didn't do shit.

Lets see if your pea size brain can wrap around this? If Obama has the answers for everything wrong in America and he can fix it, why couldn't he fix his hometown of all the evils running loose in that city? The answer, he cannot. Just like he is not capable of fixing America because he done nothing worth while his whole life that didnt benefit him.

Thats what people like you cannot understand.

 

[CryGlennCry]

Gang members beating up on an honor student kid is a sad metaphor for our current society; not only do we encourage mediocrity, we now enforce it.

I don't quite get your point.
Who's the "we" and ...well, I just don't get your point.

My take on the video...
Violence in our country is an epidemic. It is such a part of our culture, I'm not sure we can even pull out of this thuggish abyss.
We need to start prosecuting violent crime differently. I am aware of the hardships of poverty and the appeal of gangs to the poorer, but this shit's gotta stop. And it can.
Here's how we do it:
1) De-criminalize drugs.
Not just pot. All drugs. Believe me, anyone who wants to take heroin is already taking it. Very very few are deterred from taking drugs because of the legality. Overnight the income for gangs dries up and much of their appeal as well.
2) Release non-violent criminals from jail to make room for ....
3) Prosecute violent criminals severely.
First offense, depending on circumstances, a smart slap on the wrist. (this one's your chance to turn it around, kids)
Second offense, once again, depending on circumstances, 7-12 yrs. Yep that's right. Law abiding people don't end up with 2 violent felonies.
And if you get a third, well you have no interest in society, 25-life.
This gang mentality can not and must not be allowed to prosper in our slums or anywhere else for this matter.
And now here's my liberal side....
This will work if in tandem we start really funding schools. I mean REALLY funding schools. And bring on accountants to make sure money goes where it needs to and is not wasted. More of our tax dollars must be used for education. It's the key to our future as a nation.

 

[chanel]

Legalize all drugs? Are you fucking nuts? Do you think these CHILDREN who are killing each other will stop if all they are all on meth?

Unbelievable.

 

[CryGlennCry]

Legalize all drugs? Are you fucking nuts? Do you think these CHILDREN who are killing each other will stop if all they are all on meth?

Unbelievable.

Do you think any of these criminals don't use drugs because they're illegal??
Don't be a fool.

 

[Si modo]

Gang members beating up on an honor student kid is a sad metaphor for our current society; not only do we encourage mediocrity, we now enforce it.

I don't quite get your point.
Who's the "we" and ...well, I just don't get your point. ....

The antecedent for we is our society. And don't fret too much about not getting it, as long as you're happy.

 

[garyd]

Yes they're all on drugs and if you think some one won't buy something that some dead head tells them is better than that crap you get from the government you're kidding yourself. Drugs are just another symptom of the problem they aren't the problem. The problem is two fold. First we've spent the last fifty years making a cootage industry of blaming everyone on God's green earth for the violence but the perpetrators for whom we've provided every excuse in the world to continue to behave like horse's butts. If you make excuses for that which is patently inexcusable you will get more of that which is patently inexcuseable.

The second step in this unholy alliance is the odd notion that you can have self esteem wothout accomplishment which has simply resulted in a culture that confuses fear with respect.

 

[CryGlennCry]

Gang members beating up on an honor student kid is a sad metaphor for our current society; not only do we encourage mediocrity, we now enforce it.

I don't quite get your point.
Who's the "we" and ...well, I just don't get your point. ....

The antecedent for we is our society. And don't fret too much about not getting it, as long as you're happy.

No need to be a dick about it. I wasn't insulting to you.
So "we" are the gangs forcing violence and stupidity??
See, I think about that element as "them".
And I am part of the "us" trying to fix the problem crippling decent society.

 

[Si modo]

I don't quite get your point.
Who's the "we" and ...well, I just don't get your point. ....

The antecedent for we is our society. And don't fret too much about not getting it, as long as you're happy.

No need to be a dick about it. I wasn't insulting to you. ....

OMG. You're reading way too much into what I said. No 'dickness' was intended at all. Calm down.

 

[chanel]

I can only speak from where I sit. I teach in a very "diverse" high school. Rich, poor, white, black, Hispanic, etc. Our county ranks #1 in substance abuse, #1 in child abuse, and #2 in teen pregnancy. If I had to name one thing to fix; it would be teen pregnancy. There is no more shame and these young girls are doing drugs while pregnant and think that having babies is cool. And then the abuse and neglect begins and the cycle continues. But they get money from welfare, and the moms and the grandmoms see a new baby as another meal ticket. We reward this behavior with tax money, and NO ONE tells them they should wait to get married. Well I do. Probably lose my job for it one day.

Children raising children with no dads. That's what's destroying our cities.