Are you a conservative Republican....or justa Trumpster?

[nat4900]

There are several important distinctions between what the GOP once stood for, and the cult mentality that currently has taken over (brain-washed, really) republican conservatives.

One of these distinctions is the fiscal responsibility of our federal government. Current Trump cult members will try to distort the issue, claiming that Obama spent trillions, but only an idiot would neglect to mention what Obama faced when entering office.
Again, only an idiot would forget that with a monthly, new unemployment rate of almost 800,000 new claims........the possibility of bankruptcy of our auto industries.......and the looming recession heading for a depression, Obama HAD to invest in our nation's economic future with borrowed money.

Just as a reminder, we should acknowledge that in the mid to late1990s, our debt was a [then] "shocking" 4 Trillion......

When GWB left office, our debt had climbed to 11 Trillion, mostly because of 2 unfunded wars, an unfunded Medicare Advantage, AND huge tax cuts to corporations which still led to the serious recession.

When Obama left office, the debt had climbed to 19 Trillion (especially because Obama foolishly and for political purposes, extended GWB' tax cuts...

With the above stated, we are today faced with an idiot-in-chief who....in a mere 18 months.......has added almost TWO trillions to our debt, mostly through his tax scam for businesses who never really paid the high tax rate, AND who are using the cuts mostly to buy back stock.......Just about 83% of these tax cuts have gone to businesses, and the remaining crumbs to working, middle class Americans.

This tax scam was done by Trump (and his useful puppet, Paul Ryan,) who basically inherited from Obama a thriving economy with an amazingly low unemployment rate.

If there is an ounce of dignity left among Trump cultists, they should realize that at this rate, Trump will lead us at the end of his miserable term in 2020, to a national debt of an estimated THIRTY TRILLION.........but, searching for "dignity" among cult members may be a foolish search.

Trump tax cuts carry a big price tag: Huge debt and risk of another financial crisis, budget office warns
Trump tax cuts carry a big price tag: Huge debt and risk of another financial crisis, budget office warns

 

[theHawk]

The biggest tax burden are illegals that don’t pay for the schools their kids fill up, the hospital bills they don’t pay, the auto insurance they never buy, the taxes they don’t pay in their illegal jobs, and the jails they fill from committing so many crimes.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

There are several important distinctions between what the GOP once stood for, and the cult mentality that currently has taken over (brain-washed, really) republican conservatives.

One of these distinctions is the fiscal responsibility of our federal government. Current Trump cult members will try to distort the issue, claiming that Obama spent trillions, but only an idiot would neglect to mention what Obama faced when entering office.
Again, only an idiot would forget that with a monthly, new unemployment rate of almost 800,000 new claims........the possibility of bankruptcy of our auto industries.......and the looming recession heading for a depression, Obama HAD to invest in our nation's economic future with borrowed money.

Just as a reminder, we should acknowledge that in the mid to late1990s, our debt was a [then] "shocking" 4 Trillion......

When GWB left office, our debt had climbed to 11 Trillion, mostly because of 2 unfunded wars, an unfunded Medicare Advantage, AND huge tax cuts to corporations which still led to the serious recession.

When Obama left office, the debt had climbed to 19 Trillion (especially because Obama foolishly and for political purposes, extended GWB' tax cuts...

With the above stated, we are today faced with an idiot-in-chief who....in a mere 18 months.......has added almost TWO trillions to our debt, mostly through his tax scam for businesses who never really paid the high tax rate, AND who are using the cuts mostly to buy back stock.......Just about 83% of these tax cuts have gone to businesses, and the remaining crumbs to working, middle class Americans.

This tax scam was done by Trump (and his useful puppet, Paul Ryan,) who basically inherited from Obama a thriving economy with an amazingly low unemployment rate.

If there is an ounce of dignity left among Trump cultists, they should realize that at this rate, Trump will lead us at the end of his miserable term in 2020, to a national debt of an estimated THIRTY TRILLION.........but, searching for "dignity" among cult members may be a foolish search.

Trump tax cuts carry a big price tag: Huge debt and risk of another financial crisis, budget office warns
Trump tax cuts carry a big price tag: Huge debt and risk of another financial crisis, budget office warns

not sure, I voted for kate browning yesterday...and oh yeah, lol "THIRTY TRILLION"!!!!

 

[MarcATL]

The biggest tax burden are illegals that don’t pay for the schools their kids fill up, the hospital bills they don’t pay, the auto insurance they never buy, the taxes they don’t pay in their illegal jobs, and the jails they fill from committing so many crimes.

Link?

 

[BluesLegend]

New day, same old liberal horseshit. The debt exploded to $20 trillion during Obama's 8 years but Obama isn't responsible. When is a Dem ever responsible for anything? According to the left, never.

 

[rightwinger]

There are several important distinctions between what the GOP once stood for, and the cult mentality that currently has taken over (brain-washed, really) republican conservatives.

One of these distinctions is the fiscal responsibility of our federal government. Current Trump cult members will try to distort the issue, claiming that Obama spent trillions, but only an idiot would neglect to mention what Obama faced when entering office.
Again, only an idiot would forget that with a monthly, new unemployment rate of almost 800,000 new claims........the possibility of bankruptcy of our auto industries.......and the looming recession heading for a depression, Obama HAD to invest in our nation's economic future with borrowed money.

Just as a reminder, we should acknowledge that in the mid to late1990s, our debt was a [then] "shocking" 4 Trillion......

When GWB left office, our debt had climbed to 11 Trillion, mostly because of 2 unfunded wars, an unfunded Medicare Advantage, AND huge tax cuts to corporations which still led to the serious recession.

When Obama left office, the debt had climbed to 19 Trillion (especially because Obama foolishly and for political purposes, extended GWB' tax cuts...

With the above stated, we are today faced with an idiot-in-chief who....in a mere 18 months.......has added almost TWO trillions to our debt, mostly through his tax scam for businesses who never really paid the high tax rate, AND who are using the cuts mostly to buy back stock.......Just about 83% of these tax cuts have gone to businesses, and the remaining crumbs to working, middle class Americans.

This tax scam was done by Trump (and his useful puppet, Paul Ryan,) who basically inherited from Obama a thriving economy with an amazingly low unemployment rate.

If there is an ounce of dignity left among Trump cultists, they should realize that at this rate, Trump will lead us at the end of his miserable term in 2020, to a national debt of an estimated THIRTY TRILLION.........but, searching for "dignity" among cult members may be a foolish search.

Trump tax cuts carry a big price tag: Huge debt and risk of another financial crisis, budget office warns
Trump tax cuts carry a big price tag: Huge debt and risk of another financial crisis, budget office warns

You have to remember the debt hysteria conservatives launched while Obama was president

They complained about any expenditure regardless of how crucial it was. They voted against hurricane relief. They voted against saving the auto companies. In an economy bordering depression they demanded an austerity budget

Once elected they made no attempt at controlling debt. They even needlessly passed a tax cut that caused debt to skyrocket and increased military spending

 

[Ryutora]

Well, there's a difference between all three. One being Republican/GOP, the other being Conservative. Then there's just being a Trump Supporter.

• A Republican is pro-business, while a conservative is pro-free enterprise.
• A Republican believes that the Federal Government should solve the problems of education, supports funding the Department of Education, A conservative believes that the federal government has no role in education. They agree with Ronald Reagan that the Federal Department of Education should be abolished and control returned to the local level.
• A Republican thinks that federal grants are good for business, but welfare problems cause lack of initiative on part of the recipients. Corporate welfare and TARP bailouts are good, but giveaway programs are bad, according to Republicans. Conservatives want to see free enterprise work.
• Republicans will support a moderate Republican because it’s good for the Party. Conservatives will never support a moderate because it’s bad for the country. In recent days, moderate Republican Florida Gov. Charles Crist has announced for US Senate. Crist was a supporter of the Obama stimulus package. The Conservative Republican Speaker of the House Rubio was already running for this seat, but the National GOP establishment is already behind Crist, thinking he can win the election.

Now, I'm unusual, I am both a Conservative and Republican. For example, I am pro-free enterprise and believe that federal government has no business in education, but I am Republican in the fact that I support the GOP. Normally Conservatives do not support the GOP only the Republicans do. I am also a Trump Supporter. So, that would make me all three.

 

[Sunni Man]

Thread title asks, "Conservative Republican or Trump supporter?"

I'm both. ....

 

[BluesLegend]

Is the left trying to divide our country again?

 

[nat4900]

The biggest tax burden are illegals that don’t pay for the schools their kids fill up, the hospital bills they don’t pay, the auto insurance they never buy, the taxes they don’t pay in their illegal jobs, and the jails they fill from committing so many crimes.

The above from a ONE-TRICK-PONY, Trump cult member.....

ALL the troubles of this country is due to illegals......Fucking morons like this poster are both ignorant and drunk on orange kool-aid.

 

[nat4900]

New day, same old liberal horseshit. The debt exploded to $20 trillion during Obama's 8 years but Obama isn't responsible. When is a Dem ever responsible for anything? According to the left, never.

Learn how to read AND comprehend, moron......

First, Obama's debt when up to 19 trillion (as clearly stated...look it up)

Second, only a fucking idiot would compare as the same what Obama inherited and what the orange clown also inherited in economic status.

 

[DGS49]

President Trump cannot spend a dime. Period.

If he could, "we" would be building a fucking wall.

The ultimate impact on tax revenues of the tax cuts that Trump supported (Congress passed them, not Trump) will not be known for a number of years. Statements that a tax cut "has added $X trillion to the debt," are irresponsible and ignorant. It may turn out that way, but NOBODY KNOWS. Reagan's tax cuts INCREASED Federal tax revenues, but a Democrat Congress increased spending even more, thus leading to false claims that the tax cut increased the deficit.

Leftists and Democrats like to use a static measure of tax ramifications which assumes that people will not react to the incentives and penalties of a major tax change. This is always incorrect. Always. People with money do react to tax changes.

The amount of discretionary money in the Federal budget is shrinking rapidly. The deficit is fueled by Social Security, Medicare, and debt service, none of which can be significantly altered. Thus, if Conservative congresspeople would like to reduce the deficit, that can only be done by reducing give-away programs, each of which has a vociferous advocacy group that will, with full cooperation of the MSM, skewer the offending congressperson for being evil and mean.

So there is no upside to cutting the deficit. You win intellectual debating points, but lose votes. People "harmed" by the cuts will hate you and vote against you and people who liked the cuts will vote based on more interesting issues.

A Benevolent Dictatorship is the best form of government.

Vote for me.

 

[BluesLegend]

New day, same old liberal horseshit. The debt exploded to $20 trillion during Obama's 8 years but Obama isn't responsible. When is a Dem ever responsible for anything? According to the left, never.

Learn how to read AND comprehend, moron......

First, Obama's debt when up to 19 trillion (as clearly stated...look it up)

Second, only a fucking idiot would compare as the same what Obama inherited and what the orange clown also inherited in economic status.

Libtard Obama begged us to put him in charge, why didn't he lower the debt? I thought he was the smartest guy ever to be president? Perfect example of the left not accepting responsibility for anything, its always someone else's fault that's your MO.

 

[nat4900]

A Benevolent Dictatorship is the best form of government.

Vote for me.

yep....you've answered the thread's title question.....YOU'RE just another TRUMPSTER....

 

[edward37]

New day, same old liberal horseshit. The debt exploded to $20 trillion during Obama's 8 years but Obama isn't responsible. When is a Dem ever responsible for anything? According to the left, never.

Learn how to read AND comprehend, moron......

First, Obama's debt when up to 19 trillion (as clearly stated...look it up)

Second, only a fucking idiot would compare as the same what Obama inherited and what the orange clown also inherited in economic status.

Libtard Obama begged us to put him in charge, why didn't he lower the debt? I thought he was the smartest guy ever to be president? Perfect example of the left not accepting responsibility for anything, its always someone else's fault that's your MO.

Blues that's pure unadulterated BS It's republicans who never do anything wrong Have they taken Blame for GWB and his BS war ,,for the great recession?? Answer is NO They blame the party who had no president in office You're nothing but a herd of hypocrites.................Aside.... When if ever have repubs taken blame?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The above from a ONE-TRICK-PONY, Trump cult member.....

ALL the troubles of this country is due to illegals......Fucking morons like this poster is both ignorant and drunk on orange kool-aid.

now now, it is very difficult to communicate with you when you get like this.

 

[nat4900]

Libtard Obama begged us to put him in charge, why didn't he lower the debt? I thought he was the smartest guy ever to be president? Perfect example of the left not accepting responsibility for anything, its always someone else's fault that's your MO.

Fuckhead......take a GED course in economics....

One CANNOT lower the debt when faced with 800,000 new unemployment claims PER fucking MONTH....and when facing a recession bordering on an all-out DEPRESSION.....

 

[Valerie]

Thread title asks, "Conservative Republican or Trump supporter?"

I'm both. ....

you're an unhinged holocaust denier

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I am not a conservative, and nat4900 is not a liberal.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

You have to remember the debt hysteria conservatives launched while Obama was president

They complained about any expenditure regardless of how crucial it was. They voted against hurricane relief. They voted against saving the auto companies. In an economy bordering depression they demanded an austerity budget

Once elected they made no attempt at controlling debt. They even needlessly passed a tax cut that caused debt to skyrocket and increased military spending

Socialist pigs have no clue what makes an economy robust. Big surprise there