Are we Importing -- PERMANENT -- U.S. poverty?

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    Third world shithole, here we come!
     
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    Mitt Romney ran on a policy of bringing in more immigrants. So what's the deal? The right liked him then?
     
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    This is a real issue, but here is the problem:

    These illegal immigrants help some of the largest contributors to the GOP.

    How?

    They diminish rigidities in the Labor Force; they create a flexible labor market. A flexible labor market is one willing to work for less.

    Business wants flexible labor markets. This is why the American private sector gets so much of its labor from places like South Korea, China, Vietnam, Taiwan, etc.

    Nike makes more money when their sneakers are made in South Korea by workers who make $4 a day.

    California agribusiness and construction and fast food makes more money when they can hire illegals for lower wages.

    Business asked Ronald Reagan to dismantle the high wages imposed by the heavily unionized structure of postwar America. This is why Reagan passed the greatest Amnesty Bill in the history of this country: to break union control of Southwestern Labor Markets... to introduce flexibility into once rigid Labor markets occupied by Americans.

    The corporate interests which run your political party wants the flexible labor markets mades possible by illegal immigration.

    Labor shortages destroy profits.

    Surplus labor, especially if it's illegal, lowers wages and THEREFORE increases profits.

    The point of Reaganomics was to open boarders so that capital could flow freely to the cheapest resources and labor. Capitalism dies if you place limits on it. Read your Milton Friedman. The success of capitalism is that it gets incentives right by rewarding investment with higher returns . . . and it doesn't let artificial constructs like borders get in the way of returns. This is why we have global capitalism - so all the world's capital can have maximum access to all the world's labor and resources. A world of closed borders would destroy capitalism. (Fucking talk radio morons)

    CAPITALISM 101: Open borders = cheaper labor = higher returns

    Silly rabbit. You've been lied too. The party you support wants open borders.

    Turn off talk radio and take your brain back.

    "Borders Language Culture" is anathema to Libertarianism YET Reagan MIXED Conservatism and Libertarianism FOR STRATEGIC REASONS. (He used Conservatism as his populism for appealing to the south, heartland and rural America. That is, he used tradition, God, patriotism, blood&soil to trick the naive into the voting booth where they would unwittingly vote for neoliberal economic policies. That is, he used "Borders Language Culture" to get people to vote for the kind of open borders that capital requires)

    When it was happening I marveled at it . . . but I knew that the voters who joined his movement were too dumb to see the ruse.
     
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    God you are so full of shit, I bet you have brown eyes.
     
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    Yep, highly educated immigrants, we have companies that need them.
     
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    That's called Free Trade. We trade our Wealth for Third World status.
     
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    We have highly educated Americans. Why aren't companies hiring them?
     
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    There are certain areas like engineering, technology and medicine that we don't have enough, why do you think companies are asking the education system to push more math and science?
     
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    And right wingers are too stupid to educate? Remember, he wanted to cut teachers here. Even right wingers, such as yourself, don't believe right wingers can't be taught, right?
     

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