Are things better than 4 years ago? You Betcha!

[mudwhistle]

Is a bigger hole better?

I guess its all a matter of perception and who you talk to.

Imagine how much worse it could have been without Obama spending $5 trillion.

8.3 unemployment although the highest in 60 yrs is quite an accomplishment.

For the first time in this country's history we can't expect that our children will have a better life than we had. But who cares. Bring on another Greek economy and hope somebody likes us enough to bail us out.

Doesn't the House control spending? I don't believe the President can authorize any spending, in fact. He can only approve or veto it.

Obama has been going around Congress since 09'.

He does whatever he wants and nobody does anything about it.

 

[mudwhistle]

Unemployment way too high.
Housing values in the toilet.
More people on food stamps then ever.
The debt is off the charts.
The interest on the debt is crippling.

I fear that we are about to go off the cliff.

Don't forget new banking rules that make it next to impossible to get a loan or refinance.

Homes are losing value because unless you have cash you can't buy a home. People are choosing to rent until this shitforbrains is out of office.

 

[jillian]

Remember the dark days of start the Bush Depression?
Remember how people were worried they were gonna lose EVERYTHING?
There was talk of bank closings. Panic on Wall Street.
700,000 jobs lost in the month prior to Obama taking office.
People were freaking the hell out!

Look at today.
Complaints that the markets haven't recovered FAST enough yet.

I'd say, considering where BushCo left us, we're not doing so bad.
God knows, if "the fundamentals of our economy are sound" old man McCain would have gotten in there, who KNOWS where we'd be today. Probably waiting in a bread line.

and that was despite the efforts at sabotage by the rightwingnuts.

could have been better if the pres found his cojones earlier... but could have been worse.

but the obama deranged will tell you otherwise, of course. no matter what they have to make up.

 

[Synthaholic]

Imagine how much worse it could have been without Obama spending $5 trillion.

8.3 unemployment although the highest in 60 yrs is quite an accomplishment.

For the first time in this country's history we can't expect that our children will have a better life than we had. But who cares. Bring on another Greek economy and hope somebody likes us enough to bail us out.

Doesn't the House control spending? I don't believe the President can authorize any spending, in fact. He can only approve or veto it.

Obama has been going around Congress since 09'.

He does whatever he wants and nobody does anything about it.

No....pay attention: the POTUS has NO POWER to spend any money.

That's Congress.

 

[Synthaholic]

Unemployment way too high.
Housing values in the toilet.
More people on food stamps then ever.
The debt is off the charts.
The interest on the debt is crippling.

I fear that we are about to go off the cliff.

Don't forget new banking rules that make it next to impossible to get a loan or refinance.

Homes are losing value because unless you have cash you can't buy a home. People are choosing to rent until this shitforbrains is out of office.

Bullshit. I could refinance today, or get a loan, if I wanted.

 

[Chris]

GDP has been growing since 2009.
The stock market has doubled since 2009.
Americans net worth is up $9 trillion dollars since 2009.
3.7 million private sector jobs have been created since 2009.
Auto sales are up.
Retail sales are up.
Home sales are up.
Unemployment is down.

GM was saved, and is now the number one automaker in the world.

Bin Laden and Gaddafi are dead, and we are out of Iraq.

Obama has done a very good job.

 

[mudwhistle]

Remember the dark days of start the Bush Depression?
Remember how people were worried they were gonna lose EVERYTHING?
There was talk of bank closings. Panic on Wall Street.
700,000 jobs lost in the month prior to Obama taking office.
People were freaking the hell out!

Look at today.
Complaints that the markets haven't recovered FAST enough yet.

I'd say, considering where BushCo left us, we're not doing so bad.
God knows, if "the fundamentals of our economy are sound" old man McCain would have gotten in there, who KNOWS where we'd be today. Probably waiting in a bread line.

and that was despite the efforts at sabotage by the rightwingnuts.

could have been better if the pres found his cojones earlier... but could have been worse.

but the obama deranged will tell you otherwise, of course. no matter what they have to make up.

Yes, the right forced Harry Reid not to pass a budget and sit on legislation so Obama could go around congress.

 

[Claudette]

Unemployment way too high.
Housing values in the toilet.
More people on food stamps then ever.
The debt is off the charts.
The interest on the debt is crippling.

I fear that we are about to go off the cliff.

Yup and the Clowns we elect don't seem to give a shit.

 

[mudwhistle]

GDP has been growing since 2009.
The stock market has doubled since 2009.
Americans net worth is up $9 trillion dollars since 2009.
3.7 million private sector jobs have been created since 2009.
Auto sales are up.
Retail sales are up.
Home sales are up.
Unemployment is down.

GM was saved, and is now the number one automaker in the world.

Bin Laden and Gaddafi are dead, and we are out of Iraq.

Obama has done a very good job.

Bin Laden and Qaddaffi are dead, so the war on terror is over?

I wish Obama could have convinced the Iraqis he was a good guy, but he just couldn't sell it. They know how two-faced he is.

Obama promised to buy a Volt in 5 years when he's done being carted around in bullet-proof limos. Problem is by then it won't exist.

Oh, name the programs Obama put in place that contributed to the media's estimations on the "improving economy". What has he done to improve the private-sector? How many jobs did he save in the public-sector? Links please.

 

[peach174]

Is a bigger hole better?

I guess its all a matter of perception and who you talk to.

Imagine how much worse it could have been without Obama spending $5 trillion.

8.3 unemployment although the highest in 60 yrs is quite an accomplishment.

For the first time in this country's history we can't expect that our children will have a better life than we had. But who cares. Bring on another Greek economy and hope somebody likes us enough to bail us out.

Totally agree. The left don't care that's for sure.


Our children and grandchildren are going to have to pay for that debt and they won't be able to afford a better life at all, dummkopf lefties.

 

[Katzndogz]

The numbers look good for democrats because they are lying. Home sales aren't up, they are down.
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000727963

Auto Sales are up, but not for obama's green cars, for diesel.

U.S. diesel auto sales up 27% in 2011 while hybrid share shrinks

The real unemployment rate is 9.4

What's the Real Unemployment Number? - DailyFinance

Gaffafi and Bin Laden are dead, but obama had as much to do with that as Nixon had in landing on the moon.

When people sit down to assess their own circumstances they won't look at statistics but their own checkbooks. The question are you better off than you were four years ago will be answered on a very personal level.

 

[mudwhistle]

The numbers look good for democrats because they are lying. Home sales aren't up, they are down.
New home sales down 8% in January - Globes

Auto Sales are up, but not for obama's green cars, for diesel.

U.S. diesel auto sales up 27% in 2011 while hybrid share shrinks

The real unemployment rate is 9.4

What's the Real Unemployment Number? - DailyFinance

Gaffafi and Bin Laden are dead, but obama had as much to do with that as Nixon had in landing on the moon.

When people sit down to assess their own circumstances they won't look at statistics but their own checkbooks. The question are you better off than you were four years ago will be answered on a very personal level.

As soon as somebody can convince me 8.3% unemployment is better than 5% I'll believe them.

On Jimmy Cater's worst day he never had 8% and things were pretty bad then. He never blamed his economy on anyone else ether.

 

[peach174]

If a Republican was in power right now, the left would be screaming their heads off at how high the unemployment is, and how high the gas and utility bills are.
The mainstream news would be reporting at how the poor are going to starve from food prices being so high and how they poor and elderly will be dying from heat strokes this summer, because they can't afford the utility bills.

 

[Katzndogz]

Democrats say that prices are down, unemployment is down, gas prices are down, and will go down further in 50 to 100 years when we have alternative energy. Until then buy a Volt and take on car payment obligations. They won't consider that people out of work who can't cover the weeks food budget can't afford car payments.

 

[mudwhistle]

If a Republican was in power right now, the left would be screaming their heads off at how high the unemployment is, and how high the gas and utility bills are.
The mainstream news would be reporting at how the poor are going to starve from food prices being so high and how they poor and elderly will be dying from heat strokes this summer, because they can't afford the utility bills.

The truth is not reported by the mainstream. Only their opinions.

If they want this to be the worst economy since the Great Depression they'll claim that. If they want the economy to look like it's improving they just put a positive spin on the statistics that show it is not.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

This auto bailout was started under Bush and it's bullshit.

Yeah....that's bullshit, alright.

 

[Leweman]

This auto bailout was started under Bush and it's bullshit.

Yeah....that's bullshit, alright.

Bush announces $17.4 billion auto bailout - David Rogers and Mike Allen - POLITICO.com

 

[chikenwing]

GDP has been growing since 2009.
The stock market has doubled since 2009.
Americans net worth is up $9 trillion dollars since 2009.
3.7 million private sector jobs have been created since 2009.
Auto sales are up.
Retail sales are up.
Home sales are up.
Unemployment is down.

GM was saved, and is now the number one automaker in the world.

Bin Laden and Gaddafi are dead, and we are out of Iraq.

Obama has done a very good job.

So this huge income inequality we hear so much about really is just BS?? the housing market sucks,you can't spin that away UE is still well over 8 % and were are these 3 million jobs?? .Economic numbers are all over the place,have we had some improvement,ya sure,people dispit what the GOV does want to make a living.

Obamma has been a lack luster leader,your praise is misplaced.

 

[Synthaholic]

This is a stupid thread. 4 years ago, the market hadn't crashed, and Hillary was thought to be a lock for the Democratic nomination.

The question is if you are better off today than you were in January, 2009. That's when people were having their credit cards cancelled, and the stock market was down to 6,000.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Are things better than 4 years ago? You Betcha!

.....Especially for......​

....Lil' DUMBYA!!!!​

"Former President George W. Bush is budgeted to receive the most money from taxpayers of all the living ex-presidents.

Bush, the most recent former president, is requesting more than $1.3 million in taxpayer dollars for fiscal year 2013, according to a budget proposal document prepared by the General Services Administration."

"Adios, SUCKERS!!!!"​