Are the poor, poor after entitlements?

[Brutus]

It turns out that when the government says X% of Americans are living below the poverty line, they mean before the $ 6 trillion in yearly Federal State local and private charity is delivered!!

So this means after we address poverty in America there is no poverty left!! The liberal hides this because in his perfect ignorance the more welfare the better!! Moreover , the more people the liberal puts on welfare the fewer who will work. This is multiplied when the liberal lets in 15 million illegals who take jobs, when the liberal unions drive million 20 million jobs offshore, and when the liberal causes a huge recession by granting mortgages to those to who the Republican free market would not grant them.

 

[PredFan]

This country has the richest poor in the world. they have wide screen TVs, Xboxes, computers, cell phones, and cars.

 

[Sallow]

Unions drive jobs offshore? What fucking planet are you on?

Union membership is at historic lows. Taxes are at historic lows. Regulations have been cut.

And what did private enterprise do as a thank you?

Fired everyone and hired cheap labor overseas.

Good job boys!

 

[Brutus]

This country has the richest poor in the world. they have wide screen TVs, Xboxes, computers, cell phones, and cars.

Exactly, here's the whole list thanks to Robert Rector:


The following are facts about persons defined as “poor” by the Census Bureau, taken from a variety of government reports:

46 percent of all poor households actually own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as poor by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.

80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

Only six percent of poor households are overcrowded; two thirds have more than two rooms per person.

The typical poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)

Nearly three quarters of poor households own a car; 31 percent own two or more cars.

97 percent of poor households have a color television; over half own two or more color televisions.

78 percent have a VCR or DVD player.

62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.

89 percent own microwave ovens, more than half have a stereo, and a more than a third have an automatic dishwasher.

As a group, America’s poor are far from being chronically undernourished. The average consumption of protein, vitamins, and minerals is virtually the same for poor and middle-class children and, in most cases, is well above recommended norms. Poor children actually consume more meat than do higher-income children and have average protein intakes 100-percent above recommended levels. Most poor children today are, in fact, super-nourished and grow up to be, on average, one inch taller and ten pounds heavier than the GIs who stormed the beaches of Normandy in World War II.

While the poor are generally well-nourished, some poor families do experience temporary food shortages. But, even this condition is relatively rare; 89 percent of the poor report their families have “enough” food to eat, while only two percent say they “often” do not have enough to eat.

Overall, the typical American defined as poor by the government has a car, air conditioning, a refrigerator, a stove, a clothes washer and dryer, and a microwave. He has two color televisions, cable or satellite TV reception, a VCR, or DVD player, and a stereo. He is able to obtain medical care. His home is in good repair and is not overcrowded. By his own report, his family is not hungry, and he had sufficient funds in the past year to meet his family’s essential needs. While this individual’s life is not opulent, it is far from the popular images of dire poverty conveyed by the press, liberal activists, and politicians.

Of course, the living conditions of the average poor American should not be taken as representing all of the nation’s poor: There is a wide range of living conditions among the poor. A third of “poor” households have both cell and land-line telephones. A third also telephone answering machines. At the other extreme, approximately one-tenth of families in poverty have no phone at all. Similarly, while the majority of poor households do not experience significant material problems, roughly a third do experience at least one problem such as overcrowding, temporary hunger, or difficulty getting medical care.

Much official poverty that does exist in the United States can be reduced, particularly among children. There are two main reasons that American children are poor: Their parents don’t work much, and their fathers are absent from the home

 

[Mr Natural]

This country has the richest poor in the world. they have wide screen TVs, Xboxes, computers, cell phones, and cars.

Something we an all be proud of and thankful for.

 

[The T]

It turns out that when the government says X% of Americans are living below the poverty line, they mean before the $ 6 trillion in yearly Federal State local and private charity is delivered!!

So this means after we address poverty in America there is no poverty left!! The liberal hides this because in his perfect ignorance the more welfare the better!! Moreover , the more people the liberal puts on welfare the fewer who will work. This is multiplied when the liberal lets in 15 million illegals who take jobs, when the liberal unions drive million 20 million jobs offshore, and when the liberal causes a huge recession by granting mortgages to those to who the Republican free market would not grant them.

And whom sets that standard?

 

[Brutus]

Unions drive jobs offshore? What fucking planet are you on?

Union membership is at historic lows.

yes but they are still a huge huge threat. That is why the new car companies are in the union free south. Make unions illegal and the entire employment situation would change over night, but liberals are opposed. Make illegal workers illegal and add 15 million jobs tomorrow, but the liberal won't allow it.

 

[Sallow]

This country has the richest poor in the world. they have wide screen TVs, Xboxes, computers, cell phones, and cars.

Something we an all be proud of and thankful for.

Except it isn't true.

 

[Sallow]

Unions drive jobs offshore? What fucking planet are you on?

Union membership is at historic lows.

yes but they are still a huge huge threat. That is why the new car companies are in the union free south. Make unions illegal and the entire employment situation would change over night, but liberals are opposed. Make illegal workers illegal and add 15 million jobs tomorrow, but the liberal won't allow it.

Make Unions illegal?



Amazing. Unions being illegal would assure working conditions and wages would plummet in this country.

 

[Brutus]

It turns out that when the government says X% of Americans are living below the poverty line, they mean before the $ 6 trillion in yearly Federal State local and private charity is delivered!!

So this means after we address poverty in America there is no poverty left!! The liberal hides this because in his perfect ignorance the more welfare the better!! Moreover , the more people the liberal puts on welfare the fewer who will work. This is multiplied when the liberal lets in 15 million illegals who take jobs, when the liberal unions drive million 20 million jobs offshore, and when the liberal causes a huge recession by granting mortgages to those to who the Republican free market would not grant them.

And whom sets that standard?

the liberal and liberal media set the standard so they can always justify more welfare more government and more power for themselves.

 

[Brutus]

Make Unions illegal?

they cant do good. All they do is drive up prices and make others poorer, not to mention drive and keep 30 million jobs offshore

 

[del]

yes but they are still a huge huge threat. That is why the new car companies are in the union free south. Make unions illegal and the entire employment situation would change over night, but liberals are opposed. Make illegal workers illegal and add 15 million jobs tomorrow, but the liberal won't allow it.

Make Unions illegal?



Amazing. Unions being illegal would assure working conditions and wages would plummet in this country.

no idea why you say that. Those 90% not in unions do fine. You have to remember that a business has to have the best jobs to get the best employees. this is why conditions improve, not because of unions or government.

yep, that's why your drive up window has a roof.

is that the fry-o-lator beeping? better check!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I see lots of pointless bloviating in the future of this thread. I abstain

 

[Brutus]

yep, that's why your drive up window has a roof.

competition is how we got from the stone age to here.
if Mac D discovers a roof is valuable they'll put them up in a second
before the competition.

Free enterprise is too complex for the liberal mind to grasp as you can see.

 

[Brutus]

I see lots of pointless bloviating in the future of this thread. I abstain

translation: I lack the IQ to answer the question posed in the OP

 

[del]

I see lots of pointless bloviating in the future of this thread. I abstain

translation: I lack the IQ to answer the question posed in the OP

you're a fucking moron.

translation: you're a fucking moron.

 

[Sallow]

yep, that's why your drive up window has a roof.

competition is how we got from the stone age to here.
if Mac D discovers a roof is valuable they'll put them up in a second
before the competition.

Free enterprise is too complex for the liberal mind to grasp as you can see.

Naw.

It's you that doesn't get it.

No regulations and we'd have one big monopoly after another.

 

[Brutus]

I see lots of pointless bloviating in the future of this thread. I abstain

translation: I lack the IQ to answer the question posed in the OP

you're a fucking moron.

translation: you're a fucking moron.

as a liberal you lack the IQ to respond to the question posed in the OP. Sorry.

 

[Sallow]

I see lots of pointless bloviating in the future of this thread. I abstain

translation: I lack the IQ to answer the question posed in the OP

you're a fucking moron.

translation: you're a fucking moron.

See?

We can all get along.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I see lots of pointless bloviating in the future of this thread. I abstain

translation: I lack the IQ to answer the question posed in the OP

WRONG

In my short time here Ive seen plenty of these threads come and go with the end result of NOTHING. Its pointless