Are radicalized Muslim Americans like D.M. McCain a danger to the United States?

Are radicalized Muslim Americans a danger to the United States?


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Are Americans Like Douglas McAuthur McCain a Threat to America?

By M. Alex Johnson - First published August 27th 2014, 3:43 am - NBC News


The startling news that an American, Douglas McAuthur McCain, died fighting with extremist Islamist rebels in Syria again raises concerns that the Obama administration has sounded for months — that Americans could come back home hardened by conflict in Iraq and Syria and trained to launch terrorist attacks on their own homeland.

U.S. officials said in response to NBC News' exclusive report about McCain that "dozens" of Americans could be fighting at any one time with various extremist groups in the region — including the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, or ISIS. With fear growing over the turmoil in the Middle East, U.S. intelligence and foreign policy agencies are racing to understand these radicalized Westerners and the potential threats they may pose abroad and at home.

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Opinions vary widely, but the broad consensus is that about 3,000 of those foreigners are from the West — most from Europe, particularly Britain, but also some from the U.S., Obama administration officials told NBC News. By and large, they're "people who are converts to Islam who have no prior experience to the religion [or] the culture, just like any other American," said NBC News terrorism analyst Evan Kohlmann of Flashpoint Global Partners, which tracks terrorist groups around the world.

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And they're people like Shannon Maureen Conley, a 19-year-old Muslim convert from Arvada, Colorado, who pleaded guilty to providing assistance to a foreign terrorist organization. According to documents in U.S. District Court in Denver (PDF), Conley told an "active member" of ISIS that she was committed to "violent jihad against non-believers" and planned to travel to Syria to get special training to help ISIS.

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"They want to expand the caliphate," Gelvin said Tuesday, although he doesn't believe that's really an achievable goal.

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Are Americans Like Douglas McAuthur McCain a Threat to America - NBC News

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I vote "yes".

Such radicalized American Muslims do, indeed, pose a safety risk to the United States and to our people.

I have no idea how to fix the problem, other than kowtowing to The Adversary, but the problem exists, and may get much worse before it gets better.

Interesting times.
 
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Yes....I believe they're already here, just waiting for the "go", and I think it's going to be sooner than later.
 
The numbers quoted over here are about 100 Americans and about 500 British Combatants.The fear here is the ones that are trained and sent back to establish terror groups over here.
 
Of course they are a danger. We have no idea who they are. Of course we have no idea who is coming across the border either.
 
The only U.S. citizen I am aware of who went overseas to fight in a foreign land and then came back and committed a terrorist act was a Christian man named Timothy McVeigh. .... :cool:
 
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Are Americans Like Douglas McAuthur McCain a Threat to America?

By M. Alex Johnson - First published August 27th 2014, 3:43 am - NBC News


The startling news that an American, Douglas McAuthur McCain, died fighting with extremist Islamist rebels in Syria again raises concerns that the Obama administration has sounded for months — that Americans could come back home hardened by conflict in Iraq and Syria and trained to launch terrorist attacks on their own homeland.

U.S. officials said in response to NBC News' exclusive report about McCain that "dozens" of Americans could be fighting at any one time with various extremist groups in the region — including the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, or ISIS. With fear growing over the turmoil in the Middle East, U.S. intelligence and foreign policy agencies are racing to understand these radicalized Westerners and the potential threats they may pose abroad and at home.

...

Opinions vary widely, but the broad consensus is that about 3,000 of those foreigners are from the West — most from Europe, particularly Britain, but also some from the U.S., Obama administration officials told NBC News. By and large, they're "people who are converts to Islam who have no prior experience to the religion [or] the culture, just like any other American," said NBC News terrorism analyst Evan Kohlmann of Flashpoint Global Partners, which tracks terrorist groups around the world.

...

And they're people like Shannon Maureen Conley, a 19-year-old Muslim convert from Arvada, Colorado, who pleaded guilty to providing assistance to a foreign terrorist organization. According to documents in U.S. District Court in Denver (PDF), Conley told an "active member" of ISIS that she was committed to "violent jihad against non-believers" and planned to travel to Syria to get special training to help ISIS.

...

"They want to expand the caliphate," Gelvin said Tuesday, although he doesn't believe that's really an achievable goal.

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Are Americans Like Douglas McAuthur McCain a Threat to America - NBC News

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I vote "yes".

Such radicalized American Muslims do, indeed, pose a safety risk to the United States and to our people.

I have no idea how to fix the problem, other than kowtowing to The Adversary, but the problem exists, and may get much worse before it gets better.

Interesting times.
Are U$ Muslims being (deliberately) radicalized by the Empire's Middle Eastern policy of backing all sides, including the most violent religious extremists whenever they are the "be$t" choice?

Remember "Assad is Hitler" from just one year ago?

"On Monday, Syria warned the White House that it needed to coordinate airstrikes against ISIS or it would view them as a breach of its sovereignty and an 'act of aggression.'

"But it signaled its readiness to work with the United States in a coordinated campaign against the militants.

"It was not even a year ago when we were bombarded with messaging that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is a Supreme Evil and Grave Threat, and that military action against his regime was both a moral and strategic imperative.

"The standard cast of 'liberal interventionists' – Tony Blair, Anne-Marie Slaughter, Nicholas Kristof and Samantha Power - issued stirring sermons on the duties of war against Assad.

"Secretary of State John Kerry actually compared Assad to (guess who?) Hitler, instructing the nation that 'this is our Munich moment.' Striking Assad, he argued, 'is a matter of national security. It’s a matter of the credibility of the United States of America. It’s a matter of upholding the interests of our allies and friends in the region.'”

Why would anyone rationally expect the homeland of the "Greatest Purveyor of Violence in the World" to be eternally exempt from daily, random acts of terrorism?

The Fun of Empire Fighting on All Sides of a War in Syria - The Intercept
 
The only U.S. citizen I am aware of who went overseas to fight in a foreign land and then came back and committed a terrorist act was a Christian man named Timothy McVeigh. .... :cool:

McVeigh said he believed in God.....but he wasn't really a "Christian". Christians aren't (or shouldn't be) racist.

There is no doubt that Timothy McVeigh was deeply influenced by the Christian Identity movement. Christian Identity is a profoundly racist and theocratic form of faith that developed in the late 1970s and spread like wildfire through rural communities throughout the U.S. in the 1980s.
An Accurate Look at Timothy McVeigh s Beliefs on EthicsDaily.com
 
At this point any muslim is a potential threat and all muslims are complicit through association and tolerance of muslime terrorists.
Except our Government and the people that run our information net will NEVER admit that. Hell most people on here defend Muslims ever chance they get.
Our government has killed and maimed and displaced millions of innocent Muslims on the opposite side of the world in the last 13 years; I'm surprised the 1.7 billion Muslims on this planet aren't committing more acts of "terrorism."
 
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At this point any muslim is a potential threat and all muslims are complicit through association and tolerance of muslime terrorists.
Except our Government and the people that run our information net will NEVER admit that. Hell most people on here defend Muslims ever chance they get.
Our government has killed and maimed and displaced millions of innocent Muslims on the opposite side of the world in the last 13 years; I'm surprised the 1.7 Muslims on the planet aren't committing more acts of "terrorism."
More muslims have killed more muslims and still associate and tolerate each other in the name of Islam. You're doing the anything-but-a-white-male-is-OK routine.
 
At this point any muslim is a potential threat and all muslims are complicit through association and tolerance of muslime terrorists.
Except our Government and the people that run our information net will NEVER admit that. Hell most people on here defend Muslims ever chance they get.
Our government has killed and maimed and displaced millions of innocent Muslims on the opposite side of the world in the last 13 years; I'm surprised the 1.7 Muslims on the planet aren't committing more acts of "terrorism."
More muslims have killed more muslims and still associate and tolerate each other in the name of Islam. You're doing the anything-but-a-white-male-is-OK routine.
I'm recognizing the fact that the US is redrawing the borders in the Middle East by paying/encouraging divergent bands of Muslims to kill each other.
 
At this point any muslim is a potential threat and all muslims are complicit through association and tolerance of muslime terrorists.
Except our Government and the people that run our information net will NEVER admit that. Hell most people on here defend Muslims ever chance they get.
Quite possibly true.

Hell, just look at the news headlines...

"Radicalized Britons did this..."

"Radicalized Americans did that..."

When, in truth, the headlines should have read...

"Radicalized British Muslims did this..."

"Radicalized American Muslims did that..."

Radical, Militant Islam is the lowest common denominator here.

Until our governments and media can conjure-up the balls to publicly name The Adversary, we will continue to poke-around in the dark for a solution, and find none.

You can't defeat an enemy if you don't even have the courage to give it its proper name.
 
At this point any muslim is a potential threat and all muslims are complicit through association and tolerance of muslime terrorists.
Except our Government and the people that run our information net will NEVER admit that. Hell most people on here defend Muslims ever chance they get.
Quite possibly true.

Hell, just look at the news headlines...

"Radicalized Britons did this..."

"Radicalized Americans did that..."

When, in truth, the headlines should have read...

"Radicalized British Muslims did this..."

"Radicalized American Muslims did that..."

Radical, Militant Islam is the lowest common denominator here.

Until our governments and media can conjure-up the balls to publicly name The Adversary, we will continue to poke-around in the dark for a solution, and find none.

You can't defeat an enemy if you don't even have the courage to give it its proper name.
What if its proper name is "imperialism?"

"The Red Line agreement governed the development of Middle East oil for the next two decades.

"The Anglo-American Petroleum Agreement of 1944 was based on negotiations between the United States and Britain over the control of Middle Eastern oil. Below is shown what the American President Franklin D. Roosevelt had in mind for to a British Ambassador in 1944:

Persian oil ... is yours. We share the oil of Iraq and Kuwait. As for Saudi Arabian oil, it's ours.[7]

United States foreign policy in the Middle East - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
 

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