Anti-Obama Rally in Jerusalem

[Shogun]

Ah, the anti- Jewish sentiment among the Obama supporters continues...

ahh.. the blank check "jews are too chosen to do anything bad because jesus told me so" sentiment of the right continues.. shocker.

 

[elvis]

Why have real rockets when our politicians incite the fear that will become a reality for us? It's easier for them to control our voting habits that way. You know the whole "We fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over there" argument.

I don't agree with that argument. I think actual rockets are much more frightening than rhetoric. just me, I guess.

but probably LESS frightening than Jewish Cast Lease "One Shot, Two Kills" t shirts worn by a state based favored class... How many whites do you want to see wear a "Die JEW" t shirt like a zionist in israel does cast lead shirts? Come on, dude.. let's see you put your fucking self in the same shoes of those who yo'd otherwise be looking for a tree and a rope for.

as soon as you put yourself in the Jews' shoes; having to worry about whether or not some Arab is gonna blow himself up right next to them. And you wonder why they're treated like vermin.

 

[elvis]

and before you create some bullshit Nazi Germany analogy, point out to us when, in the 1920s and 1930s the Jews terrorized ANY Germans.

 

[Modbert]

as soon as you put yourself in the Jews' shoes; having to worry about whether or not some Arab is gonna blow himself up right next to them. And you wonder why they're treated like vermin.

Why do we have to be Jews to worry about that? Plenty of people in the US worry about that everyday to the point they are racist against Muslims. Did you miss that obvious point?

 

[elvis]

as soon as you put yourself in the Jews' shoes; having to worry about whether or not some Arab is gonna blow himself up right next to them. And you wonder why they're treated like vermin.

Why do we have to be Jews to worry about that? Plenty of people in the US worry about that everyday to the point they are racist against Muslims. Did you miss that obvious point?

to the degree that Jews in Israel do? I think not. They are "used" to terrorist attacks.

 

[Modbert]

and before you create some bullshit Nazi Germany analogy, point out to us when, in the 1920s and 1930s the Jews terrorized ANY Germans.

Actually, the only thing I see similar to the 1920's and 1930's of Nazi Germany is how Muslims/Arabs are slowly being turned into scapegoats, and being ridiculed for their beliefs/who they are. I'm not even referring to here, though partly here in some parts of the country, I'm referring worldwide.

 

[elvis]

and before you create some bullshit Nazi Germany analogy, point out to us when, in the 1920s and 1930s the Jews terrorized ANY Germans.

Actually, the only thing I see similar to the 1920's and 1930's of Nazi Germany is how Muslims/Arabs are slowly being turned into scapegoats, and being ridiculed for their beliefs/who they are. I'm not even referring to here, though partly here in some parts of the country, I'm referring worldwide.

except the Arabs USE terrorism in Israel and many other places. The Jews in the 1930s did not.

 

[elvis]

Amazing how people sympathize with Hamas, whose goal is to DESTROY Israel. It's like sympathizing with al qaeda.

 

[Modbert]

to the degree that Jews in Israel do? I think not. They are "used" to terrorist attacks.

So shouldn't they be Desentized to the attacks by now? Sort of like how the British are. With the whole "trains running the next day" sort of thing. Hell, look what they went through during WWII. (And before you make reference to the holocaust, I'm referring to the actual country.)

Look, I'm not saying the terrorist attacks on the Jews is right. It's not, not by any means. However, just because the Jews have been getting their ass handed to them since the dawn of time, and being kicked out of country after country by ruthless leaders should mean they should get special treatment, and a get out of War Crimes free card.

Oh by the way, Godwin's Law, you lose.

 

[elvis]

to the degree that Jews in Israel do? I think not. They are "used" to terrorist attacks.

So shouldn't they be Desentized to the attacks by now? Sort of like how the British are. With the whole "trains running the next day" sort of thing. Hell, look what they went through during WWII. (And before you make reference to the holocaust, I'm referring to the actual country.)

Look, I'm not saying the terrorist attacks on the Jews is right. It's not, not by any means. However, just because the Jews have been getting their ass handed to them since the dawn of time, and being kicked out of country after country by ruthless leaders should mean they should get special treatment, and a get out of War Crimes free card.

Oh by the way, Godwin's Law, you lose.

So, I guess the United States is guilty of war crimes for going after al qaeda. After all, just because someone blew up the towers doesn't mean we should act to wipe out al qaeda.

 

[Modbert]

Amazing how people sympathize with Hamas, whose goal is to DESTROY Israel. It's like sympathizing with al qaeda.

So you're going to judge a whole group of people by the radicals? That would be like judging Christians by the people who bomb the Abortion clinics.

I do not sympathize with Hamas, I sympathize with the innocent people who are under their leadership are being scapegoated, judged, and everything else because of their beliefs. I'm not saying everyone under Hamas is innocent, but a good deal are.

 

[elvis]

Amazing how people sympathize with Hamas, whose goal is to DESTROY Israel. It's like sympathizing with al qaeda.

So you're going to judge a whole group of people by the radicals? That would be like judging Christians by the people who bomb the Abortion clinics.

I do not sympathize with Hamas, I sympathize with the innocent people who are under their leadership are being scapegoated, judged, and everything else because of their beliefs. I'm not saying everyone under Hamas is innocent, but a good deal are.

Understand this: the PLO has a HAMAS member as its leader. What do you think the PLO's goals are now?

 

[Modbert]

So, I guess the United States is guilty of war crimes for going after al qaeda. After all, just because someone blew up the towers doesn't mean we should act to wipe out al qaeda.

Well show me where we committed war crimes? Israel soldiers have admitted to being able to do whatever they wanted, and that they committed war crimes. The same cannot be said of our soldiers. They are not allowed to shoot whomever they want simply because they're in the same area.

You keep taking the debate off it's focus and focusing on things unrelated which is a bit dishonest.

 

[elvis]

So, I guess the United States is guilty of war crimes for going after al qaeda. After all, just because someone blew up the towers doesn't mean we should act to wipe out al qaeda.

Well show me where we committed war crimes? Israel soldiers have admitted to being able to do whatever they wanted, and that they committed war crimes. The same cannot be said of our soldiers. They are not allowed to shoot whomever they want simply because they're in the same area.

You keep taking the debate off it's focus and focusing on things unrelated which is a bit dishonest.

You said Israelis are war criminals, when what they were doing was fighting terrorists. I take it you think the U.S. is above the standard you're speaking of.

 

[Modbert]

You said Israelis are war criminals, when what they were doing was fighting terrorists. I take it you think the U.S. is above the standard you're speaking of.

I said the Israelis admitted to being war criminals or at least some of them did. I already posted that thread earlier. Again, I ask you, what war crimes has US Troops committed in Afghanistan?

You're deflecting, and no I don't think the U.S is above any standard. The U.S Government has committed crimes before though not really considered war crimes as they weren't at war persay. I have also talked about this before with you, so you should know my feelings on this issue.

 

[elvis]

You said Israelis are war criminals, when what they were doing was fighting terrorists. I take it you think the U.S. is above the standard you're speaking of.

I said the Israelis admitted to being war criminals or at least some of them did. I already posted that thread earlier. Again, I ask you, what war crimes has US Troops committed in Afghanistan?

You're deflecting, and no I don't think the U.S is above any standard. The U.S Government has committed crimes before though not really considered war crimes as they weren't at war persay. I have also talked about this before with you, so you should know my feelings on this issue.

No deflections here.
If you looked hard enough, you could find an article that made the same CLAIM regarding the US and Afghanistan. Many call Curtis Le May a war criminal for ending the war against Japan as quickly as possible. I DO NOT feel that way about Le May. When you're fighting a war, you fight to win. Everything else goes out the window.

 

[elvis]

to the degree that Jews in Israel do? I think not. They are "used" to terrorist attacks.

So shouldn't they be Desentized to the attacks by now? Sort of like how the British are. With the whole "trains running the next day" sort of thing. Hell, look what they went through during WWII. (And before you make reference to the holocaust, I'm referring to the actual country.)

Look, I'm not saying the terrorist attacks on the Jews is right. It's not, not by any means. However, just because the Jews have been getting their ass handed to them since the dawn of time, and being kicked out of country after country by ruthless leaders should mean they should get special treatment, and a get out of War Crimes free card.

Oh by the way, Godwin's Law, you lose.

Godwin's Law? Hmmm. In a thread which shogun participates in, how long is it before ANYONE brings up Hitler? and it's usually shogun that loses.

 

[Modbert]

Godwin's Law? Hmmm. In a thread which shogun participates in, how long is it before ANYONE brings up Hitler? and it's usually shogun that loses.

Actually, it's not Shogun, it's the fact the thread involves Jews.

When any thread involves Judaism or Jews, Hitler and Nazi references are not far behind.

 

[Shogun]

I don't agree with that argument. I think actual rockets are much more frightening than rhetoric. just me, I guess.

but probably LESS frightening than Jewish Cast Lease "One Shot, Two Kills" t shirts worn by a state based favored class... How many whites do you want to see wear a "Die JEW" t shirt like a zionist in israel does cast lead shirts? Come on, dude.. let's see you put your fucking self in the same shoes of those who yo'd otherwise be looking for a tree and a rope for.

as soon as you put yourself in the Jews' shoes; having to worry about whether or not some Arab is gonna blow himself up right next to them. And you wonder why they're treated like vermin.

Spoken like a white man in the deep south circa 1930. Lemme guess.. you don't want those arab boys to think they can go around fucking jew girls either, right?

TREATED LIKE VERMIN. Hey, at least you finally got around to being honest about israels ****** CLASS.

 

[Shogun]

and before you create some bullshit Nazi Germany analogy, point out to us when, in the 1920s and 1930s the Jews terrorized ANY Germans.

In fact the historic record shows that the DIRECT cause of such widespread anti-jew sentiment in Germany was the DIRECT result in jewish interaction with germany's policies in WW1. Now, i realize that history is antisemitic and all but perhaps you can bare with me and the facts before you scream antisemite and disappear ina puff of smoke.