And you want $15 an hour?

If you pay more than minimum wage you can demand more from your employees because you have the option of replacing them with more capable people. Costco, Trader Joes, and a number of other companies have learned this.

People that are living on starvation wages rarely make good employees. The results are high turnover and poor employee moral.

And when you OWN the company you can follow the Costco model. As for Walmart, it is THEIR decision to determine the worth and wages - at or above the gov't mandated minimum - of THEIR employees ... not mine and certainly not YOURS.

So it's OK for a company to collect tens of billions in taxpayer paid subsidies then pay so little that their employees can qualify for welfare?

The company is not collecting the subsidies. The people who refuse to improve their skills are and it's the government that has made it easier and easier to suck on the taxpayer tit is responsible for that.
 
It's a business decision fail. Why farm stuff out when you can BE the farm? An equipment lease for $100k is about $3K/month. One could create enough business by accepting outside business to pay the lease and offer customers full service.

Any first year econ student knows that the most efficient method of delivering goods and services to market is the indirect method. You just failed out ... again.

What the hell are you writing about, and why would you use an import/export model?

Please stop pretending to know what you are talking about. Indirect distribution has many advantages which is why a large portion of the economy uses it to sell products. It is very difficult to specialize in all the aspects of the product cycle therefore firms focus on their specialty and use outside companies for the other tasks rather than "BE the farm."
 
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If you pay more than minimum wage you can demand more from your employees because you have the option of replacing them with more capable people. Costco, Trader Joes, and a number of other companies have learned this.

People that are living on starvation wages rarely make good employees. The results are high turnover and poor employee moral.

And when you OWN the company you can follow the Costco model. As for Walmart, it is THEIR decision to determine the worth and wages - at or above the gov't mandated minimum - of THEIR employees ... not mine and certainly not YOURS.

So it's OK for a company to collect tens of billions in taxpayer paid subsidies then pay so little that their employees can qualify for welfare?

Lame deflection. Rather than sit on your butt posting utter BS and collecting your gov't subsidy, please get up and start your own company and pay your employees whatever makes you and them happy ... as long as it meets or exceeds the gov't mandated minimum.
 
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Rather than sit on your butt posting utter BS and collecting your gov't subsidy, please get up and start your own company
OncePercenter already claims to be the head of some company.

He just sometimes forgets to make sure his lies about it don't conflict and gets constantly caught by others being completely naive about fundamentals of business, business accounting, how business taxes work, etc.

It is tough maintaining that delicate balance between a company located in FantasyLand and reality.
 
So it's OK for a company to collect tens of billions in taxpayer paid subsidies then pay so little that their employees can qualify for welfare?

GM is the only company I know of that took tens of billions in taxpayer subsidies - but I thought they paid outrageously high?

Oh, you're just spewing ignorant shit again, because you lack even a Jr. High education.

Take out the trash, you little fuck - do SOMETHING to at least help your mom, you worthless leech.
 
Retail stores don't determine the value of sales clerks or counter workers.

Is that right?

I guess all those cost accountants sit around playing solitaire...


That's determined by the market for labor and minimum wage laws.

Only if the value added is below the minimum threshold. At the moment, virtually no retail pays minimum.

Most employers pay the lowest wage possible wage to low skill workers. If the minimum wage is $4, $8, $12, or $15, they will pay it because they must have the people to operate the business.

Explain then why Walmart starts at $9.18 an hour?

Every affected business will cover the additional cost differently. Some will increase prices, other will cut some employees that aren't really necessary, and still others will cut other costs or reduce profit margins.

You have no knowledge of business, nor how business operates.

You would no doubt be startled to find out that a P&L isn't "play and pleasure."

Most economists are in agreement that increases in the minimum wage has little effect on the overall economy. This is because there are both positive and negative effects on the economy. Higher wages can result in higher prices which is bad but higher wages also increase sales because it puts more money in the hands of the poor. Higher wages can cause some job lost for marginal workers resulting in more government assistance but higher wages can also push some people off government assistance. Higher wages makes getting a job more attractive but it also creates more completion for low skilled jobs.

You have zero knowledge of economics, you are a partisan hack putting on airs.
 
Any first year econ student knows that the most efficient method of delivering goods and services to market is the indirect method. You just failed out ... again.

What the hell are you writing about, and why would you use an import/export model?

Please stop pretending to know what you are talking about. Indirect distribution has many advantages which is why a large portion of the economy uses it to sell products. It is very difficult to specialize in all the aspects of the product cycle therefore firms focus on their specialty and use outside companies for the other tasks rather than "BE the farm."

Ignore him, he knows nothing and intentionally refuses to learn.
 
Went to McDonald's for lunch today. No protesters to be seen btw. I ordered a number 7 meal, large with a Diet Coke and a Happy Meal cheeseburger for a girl. Thinking that I also wanted a small mcnuggets, I asked what sizes that they come in. The lady said 4, 6, and 10. "I'll take a 4 piece please."

I get my order and she hands me two large drink cups. Then she asks me what drink I wanted with my happy meal. I didn't know what to say since she was just going to give me an empty cup for me to fill.

At this point, voices in my head should have told me to check my order, but the voices failed. When I got back home they didnt give me my 4 piece but instead put the four piece in the happy meal and the child didnt get her cheeseburger. Practically the entire order was screwed up.

How does anyone deserve to double their salary when they perform their job so badly? It's nonsense.

I did my own "study" the month of July using one of the McDonalds in the town where I work. I went to it 21 of the 24 days I worked that month. I altered the normal order usually asking that something be left off the order such as pickles, mayo, onions, etc. 11 of those times, it was wrong. On one occasion, I ordered a new items asking to have mayo and pickles left off. The order taker said it came with neither. It had both. I took it to the counter and was told that I should have simply taken off the pickles and wiped off the mayo.
 
Went to McDonald's for lunch today. No protesters to be seen btw. I ordered a number 7 meal, large with a Diet Coke and a Happy Meal cheeseburger for a girl. Thinking that I also wanted a small mcnuggets, I asked what sizes that they come in. The lady said 4, 6, and 10. "I'll take a 4 piece please."

I get my order and she hands me two large drink cups. Then she asks me what drink I wanted with my happy meal. I didn't know what to say since she was just going to give me an empty cup for me to fill.

At this point, voices in my head should have told me to check my order, but the voices failed. When I got back home they didnt give me my 4 piece but instead put the four piece in the happy meal and the child didnt get her cheeseburger. Practically the entire order was screwed up.

How does anyone deserve to double their salary when they perform their job so badly? It's nonsense.

You didn't check your order before you left. It's YOUR FAULT!

My steak at Peter Luger's last night was perfect! Of course everyone there makes more than $15.00/hr.
At fine restaurants, most waiters make well above minimum wage. They have health insurance, retirement, and other benefits. However in most small restaurants as well many chains, it's usually minimum wage, maybe a bit more and limited benefits.

The current minimum wage makes it almost impossible for many parents to work. The average cost of child care is usually at or above minimum wage. Where I live, minimum wage is $9.30/hr and the average cost of childcare is above $10/hr. In my area if you have two kids, then child care is going to cost you $12 to $15/hr, so if you can't get well above minimum wage, then you can't support your family without assistance. However, a higher minimum wage, say $15/hr would push the cost of child care up so the parent would still have the same problem.
 
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At fine restaurants, most waiters make well above minimum wage. They have health insurance, retirement, and other benefits. However in most small restaurants as well many chains, it's usually minimum wage, maybe a bit more and limited benefits.

The current minimum wage makes it almost impossible for many parents to work. The average cost of child care is usually at or above minimum wage. Where I live, minimum wage is $9.30/hr and the average cost of childcare is above $10/hr. In my area if you have two kids, then child care is going to cost you $12 to $15/hr, so if you can't get well above minimum wage, then you can't support your family without assistance. However, a higher minimum wage, say $15/hr would push the cost of child care up so the parent would still have the same problem.

It isn't the min wage that restricts those whose skills limit them to $7.25/hr ... it's their lack of marketable skills. If one is capable only of making babies...
 
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At fine restaurants, most waiters make well above minimum wage. They have health insurance, retirement, and other benefits. However in most small restaurants as well many chains, it's usually minimum wage, maybe a bit more and limited benefits.

The current minimum wage makes it almost impossible for many parents to work. The average cost of child care is usually at or above minimum wage. Where I live, minimum wage is $9.30/hr and the average cost of childcare is above $10/hr. In my area if you have two kids, then child care is going to cost you $12 to $15/hr, so if you can't get well above minimum wage, then you can't support your family without assistance. However, a higher minimum wage, say $15/hr would push the cost of child care up so the parent would still have the same problem.

It isn't the min wage that restricts those whose skills limit them to min $7.25/hr ... it's their lack of marketable skills. If one is capable only of making babies...
Amen. Most minimum wage workers are lucky it exists. Otherwise they would be actually paid what they're worth.
 
At fine restaurants, most waiters make well above minimum wage. They have health insurance, retirement, and other benefits. However in most small restaurants as well many chains, it's usually minimum wage, maybe a bit more and limited benefits.

The current minimum wage makes it almost impossible for many parents to work. The average cost of child care is usually at or above minimum wage. Where I live, minimum wage is $9.30/hr and the average cost of childcare is above $10/hr. In my area if you have two kids, then child care is going to cost you $12 to $15/hr, so if you can't get well above minimum wage, then you can't support your family without assistance. However, a higher minimum wage, say $15/hr would push the cost of child care up so the parent would still have the same problem.

It isn't the min wage that restricts those whose skills limit them to min $7.25/hr ... it's their lack of marketable skills. If one is capable only of making babies...
Amen. Most minimum wage workers are lucky it exists. Otherwise they would be actually paid what they're worth.

well they might be paid a lot more in a Republican free market too if there were no govt programs to suppliment their income, no illegal aliens here to take their jobs and drive wages down, no corprate and unions taxes to drive jobs away, and no deficits to allow China to buy our deficits rather than our products..
 
At fine restaurants, most waiters make well above minimum wage. They have health insurance, retirement, and other benefits. However in most small restaurants as well many chains, it's usually minimum wage, maybe a bit more and limited benefits.

The current minimum wage makes it almost impossible for many parents to work. The average cost of child care is usually at or above minimum wage. Where I live, minimum wage is $9.30/hr and the average cost of childcare is above $10/hr. In my area if you have two kids, then child care is going to cost you $12 to $15/hr, so if you can't get well above minimum wage, then you can't support your family without assistance. However, a higher minimum wage, say $15/hr would push the cost of child care up so the parent would still have the same problem.

It isn't the min wage that restricts those whose skills limit them to min $7.25/hr ... it's their lack of marketable skills. If one is capable only of making babies...
Amen. Most minimum wage workers are lucky it exists. Otherwise they would be actually paid what they're worth.

well they might be paid a lot more in a Republican free market too if there were no govt programs to suppliment their income, no illegal aliens here to take their jobs and drive wages down, no corprate and unions taxes to drive jobs away, and no deficits to allow China to buy our deficits rather than our products..
That would be true of most workers, but minimum wagers are already overpaid. That's why there's a minimum wage.
 
, but minimum wagers are already overpaid. That's why there's a minimum wage.

yes but we have the minimum wage in a very socialist environment so it is difficult to say what would happen in a more capitalist market. Firstly I think work would have new meaning if you needed it to survive.
 
At fine restaurants, most waiters make well above minimum wage. They have health insurance, retirement, and other benefits. However in most small restaurants as well many chains, it's usually minimum wage, maybe a bit more and limited benefits.

The current minimum wage makes it almost impossible for many parents to work. The average cost of child care is usually at or above minimum wage. Where I live, minimum wage is $9.30/hr and the average cost of childcare is above $10/hr. In my area if you have two kids, then child care is going to cost you $12 to $15/hr, so if you can't get well above minimum wage, then you can't support your family without assistance. However, a higher minimum wage, say $15/hr would push the cost of child care up so the parent would still have the same problem.

It isn't the min wage that restricts those whose skills limit them to min $7.25/hr ... it's their lack of marketable skills. If one is capable only of making babies...
Unfortunately some parents are living in 20th century teaching their kids that a women's place in the home. So girls get out high school, get a minimum wage job, a husband, quit work to raise a family and live in wedded bliss. Half of them will find themselves with no husband to bring in a pay check, no real jobs skills and on government assistance.
 
At fine restaurants, most waiters make well above minimum wage. They have health insurance, retirement, and other benefits. However in most small restaurants as well many chains, it's usually minimum wage, maybe a bit more and limited benefits.

The current minimum wage makes it almost impossible for many parents to work. The average cost of child care is usually at or above minimum wage. Where I live, minimum wage is $9.30/hr and the average cost of childcare is above $10/hr. In my area if you have two kids, then child care is going to cost you $12 to $15/hr, so if you can't get well above minimum wage, then you can't support your family without assistance. However, a higher minimum wage, say $15/hr would push the cost of child care up so the parent would still have the same problem.

It isn't the min wage that restricts those whose skills limit them to min $7.25/hr ... it's their lack of marketable skills. If one is capable only of making babies...
Unfortunately some parents are living in 20th century teaching their kids that a women's place in the home. So girls get out high school, get a minimum wage job, a husband, quit work to raise a family and live in wedded bliss. Half of them will find themselves with no husband to bring in a pay check, no real jobs skills and on government assistance.

yes, it is true that liberals attacked and destroyed the American Family creating real misery all around. Liberalism should be illegal!!
 
At fine restaurants, most waiters make well above minimum wage. They have health insurance, retirement, and other benefits. However in most small restaurants as well many chains, it's usually minimum wage, maybe a bit more and limited benefits.

The current minimum wage makes it almost impossible for many parents to work. The average cost of child care is usually at or above minimum wage. Where I live, minimum wage is $9.30/hr and the average cost of childcare is above $10/hr. In my area if you have two kids, then child care is going to cost you $12 to $15/hr, so if you can't get well above minimum wage, then you can't support your family without assistance. However, a higher minimum wage, say $15/hr would push the cost of child care up so the parent would still have the same problem.

It isn't the min wage that restricts those whose skills limit them to min $7.25/hr ... it's their lack of marketable skills. If one is capable only of making babies...
Unfortunately some parents are living in 20th century teaching their kids that a women's place in the home. So girls get out high school, get a minimum wage job, a husband, quit work to raise a family and live in wedded bliss. Half of them will find themselves with no husband to bring in a pay check, no real jobs skills and on government assistance.
Sure, they have babies with several baby daddies knowing that the government will support them. What a frigging fiasco!
 
At fine restaurants, most waiters make well above minimum wage. They have health insurance, retirement, and other benefits. However in most small restaurants as well many chains, it's usually minimum wage, maybe a bit more and limited benefits.

The current minimum wage makes it almost impossible for many parents to work. The average cost of child care is usually at or above minimum wage. Where I live, minimum wage is $9.30/hr and the average cost of childcare is above $10/hr. In my area if you have two kids, then child care is going to cost you $12 to $15/hr, so if you can't get well above minimum wage, then you can't support your family without assistance. However, a higher minimum wage, say $15/hr would push the cost of child care up so the parent would still have the same problem.

It isn't the min wage that restricts those whose skills limit them to min $7.25/hr ... it's their lack of marketable skills. If one is capable only of making babies...
Unfortunately some parents are living in 20th century teaching their kids that a women's place in the home. So girls get out high school, get a minimum wage job, a husband, quit work to raise a family and live in wedded bliss. Half of them will find themselves with no husband to bring in a pay check, no real jobs skills and on government assistance.

None of which changes the fact that those stuck on min wage have little or no marketable skills. This is America and people not only have the opportunity and right to succeed, they have the right to fail or otherwise live their lives as they see fit.
 
they have the right to fail or otherwise live their lives as they see fit.

yes but failing means we pay for their welfare so if only for that reason we need to reverse the liberalism that destroyed the familiy and schools. THen we need to ship 20 million illegals back home and eliminate liberal corporate taxes and liberal unions
Liberalism is like a cancer infecting everything.
 
What do employers expect for min wage? Good workers? How STUPID are those bosses? Answer? Very. You pay me min wage I do min work. Its called capitalism.
 

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