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It's far more dangerous to expect civil officers to follow the law if they have immunity from prosecution for breaking it.
The “opposition” in what legal framework?the opposition since the state already submitted the other side.
You should refrain from your petty and disingenuous efforts to reframe what I’ve said. You’re not very good or honest at it.So basically you're saying they have immunity from prosecution unless they do something illegal.
Okay.
They can't be prosecuted for doing their duties. But if they commit a crime, it's not part of their duties and therefore they don't have immunity.
You're talking in circles.
Take the example from above. Biden orders the DoJ to prosecute Trump to hurt his campaign. Does he have to be impeached before he can be prosecuted for this abuse of office?
The immunity covers both just the same. You can't do one without the other.The immunity isn’t for the commission of crimes while performing your duty. The immunities anre to insulate you from having some valid performance of your duties labeled a “crime.”
Nothing disingenuous. I provided a valid criticism of your position which you haven't addressed.You should refrain from your petty and disingenuous efforts to reframe what I’ve said. You’re not very good or honest at it.
The opposition has not legal authority to submit electors. That can only come from the state.the opposition since the state already submitted the other side.
It is not illegal to hold an opinion or express that opinion whether or not that opinion has validity.Attempting to disenfranchise one to seven states of voters in an attempt to create a constitutional crisis that would make it possible to allow a first term president who loses his election for a second term could commit fraud leading up to January 6, which would allow him to stay in office for a second term if his VP would participate in the fraud cannot be part of His presidential duties.
Trump went way beyond opinion. He’s already had several of his co-conspirators, plead guilty in the Georgia conspiracy to try to overturn the presidential election in Georgia. Look up Jenna Ellis. She pled guilty as one of the Trump campaign’s hired lawyers.It is not illegal to hold an opinion or express that opinion whether or not that opinion has validity.
Pressuring Mike Pence to participate in a criminal criminal conspiracy to commit fraud against the US government is not an opinion. It is an act. It is an act of criminal intent. Just because Mike Pence refused to be involved in the criminal fraud of the US government does not mean Trump must be absolved. The actions leading up to pressuring Mike Pence to commit fraud on J6 of creating fake electors in seven states to be used on J6 are also actions and not opinion. Pushing the creation of fake electors is hard-core criminal behavior against the United States government.It is not illegal to hold an opinion or express that opinion whether or not that opinion has validity.
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Yeah, but Trump will pay himself many millions in "salary" out of company assets, so he'll come out ahead.A regulatory filing released this month showed Trump Media drew revenue of just over $4 million and net losses of nearly $60 million in 2023 and prompted a stock market free fall.
Good Point. In ever election there has to be a point where no more challenges will be considered. In the US presidential elections that point is the certification by the states which must be done by Dec 11. What follows is a ceremonial and procedural process of certifying that electoral votes have been received and counted them. Followed by a ceremonial process of recording the selection of the new president.No state chose any other process than certifying that Biden had won the state prior to “safe harbor” which meant no more challenges by the loser would or ever could be entertained.
You left out the part about erecting a gallows, assaulting police officers, vandalizing the capitol, and then trying to say someone forced them to do itThere was no attempt of any kind by ANYBODY to overthrow the government. Anyone with a shred of intellectual honesty knows that.
The petition of grievances asked for--ASKED, not demand or else--for the certification of the election to be delayed a short time for the investigations of election fraud to be completed. I think Pence was right that the election had to be certified on J6 but that does not make Trump or any Patriot there guilty of insurrection or any other crime other than the relative few who participated in the riot that I am reasonably sure anti-Trump people instigated.
Hey!! How's that fani willis prosecution against Trump goin'?
Neither civil nor criminal immunity is explicitly granted in the Constitution or any federal statute. However, as a result of several court rulings, a sitting president of the United States enjoys absolute immunity from many lawsuits while in office. Currently an ex-president has no immunity from either civil or criminal charges for his actions while president. IMHO, he should not have blanket immunity.Your thinking is muddled because you don’t have clue one about what you’re trying to discuss.
Again, for the severely stupid (like you):
The immunity isn’t for the commission of crimes while performing your duty. The immunities anre to insulate you from having some valid performance of your duties labeled a “crime.”
What is it about this man that scares the bejeebers out of democrats...and you? The whole world knows that the world was safer with him in office. We wouldn't have this anti american mess in this country now if he were still president. Y'all screwed up cheating him out of his 2nd term...he'd be nearing the end of that legitimate second term...and y'all would have another crack at it without all america knowing at this point what traitorous slimeballs democrats are. Now not you...you're just their little puppet doing their bidding and I pray you guys smarten up before it is too late....but typically, democrats always wait till it is too late and then they have to blame someone else for their own failures like some testosterone fueled out of control teenager. Peter pan material.
He’ll be on trial in August.
What is it about this man that scares the bejeebers out of democrats...and you?
Israel: No United States President is responsible for defending Israel’s borders from terrorist attack.The whole world knows that the world was safer with him in office.
Never before have we had a president who schemed to overturn legitimate election results, who attacked the press and the civil servants who worked for him, who admired dictators, who blatantly profited from his public office and who repeatedly lied to the public for his own selfish purposes.What is it about this man that scares the bejeebers out of democrats...and you? The whole world knows that the world was safer with him in office. We wouldn't have this anti american mess in this country now if he were still president. Y'all screwed up cheating him out of his 2nd term...he'd be nearing the end of that legitimate second term...and y'all would have another crack at it without all america knowing at this point what traitorous slimeballs democrats are. Now not you...you're just their little puppet doing their bidding and I pray you guys smarten up before it is too late....but typically, democrats always wait till it is too late and then they have to blame someone else for their own failures like some testosterone fueled out of control teenager. Peter pan material.
Now is TRUTH.The whole world knows that the world was safer with him in office.
