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[bripat9643]

OK,,sweet pea! Just what you gonna do about so called 'global warming'?

It would make more sense to ask me what I'm going to do about continental drift.

 

[FactFinder]

OK,,sweet pea! Just what you gonna do about so called 'global warming'?

It would make more sense to ask me what I'm going to do about continental drift.

Correct answer. One rep point for ya. In the mean time why alll the bitchin?

 

[bripat9643]

Bripat -

The funny comment was more the idea that the earth's air and oceans are cleaner than they were during the 1950s.

The claim was that the air and water are cleaner now than they were in the 1950s and 1960s. In the United States and other advanced economies, they are. We don't have control over the entire ocean, so we aren't responsible for everything that gets dumped into them.

And although only 0.002% of the panet may be concreted, the fact that there are parts of the world where 48,000 people on a square mile of land suggests to me human activity may still be a major factor in how land looks and operates in a geographical context.

Singapore is one of the most densely populated spots on the planet. It's also one of the richest and one of the cleanest. The average population density of the Earth is 34.5 people per square mile - hardly anything to be concerned about.

 

[Saigon]

Bripat -

The funny comment was more the idea that the earth's air and oceans are cleaner than they were during the 1950s.

The claim was that the air and water are cleaner now than they were in the 1950s and 1960s. In the United States and other advanced economies, they are. We don't have control over the entire ocean, so we aren't responsible for everything that gets dumped into them.

I totally agree - much of the crap going into the air and ocean is now being dumped by China, India and Russia, not by the US and EU, which have much more effective environmental standards.

Unfortunately, we breathe the same air they do. I live within sight of the Baltic Sea, which is basically dead. It's been killed by runoff from agriculture, by manure from massive industrial chicken farms, and by untreated sewerage from St Peterburg, Gdansk, Riga and Tallinn.

That is not Finland's fault - but it is Finland's problem.

Google's claim that the air and water is better now than in the 1950s, from a global perspective, laugh out loud stupid.

As for population densiy, I think everyone realises that 4 billion people is a massive strain on the earth's resources - fresh water in particular. You go into cities like Cairo, Johannesburg/Soweto or Mexico, each with more than 10 million people, and you wonder where the water can possibly come from for those people to drink and wash.

 

[FactFinder]

Bripat -

The funny comment was more the idea that the earth's air and oceans are cleaner than they were during the 1950s.

The claim was that the air and water are cleaner now than they were in the 1950s and 1960s. In the United States and other advanced economies, they are. We don't have control over the entire ocean, so we aren't responsible for everything that gets dumped into them.

I totally agree - much of the crap going into the air and ocean is now being dumped by China, India and Russia, not by the US and EU, which have much more effective environmental standards.

Unfortunately, we breathe the same air they do. I live within sight of the Baltic Sea, which is basically dead. It's been killed by runoff from agriculture, by manure from massive industrial chicken farms, and by untreated sewerage from St Peterburg, Gdansk, Riga and Tallinn.

That is not Finland's fault - but it is Finland's problem.

Google's claim that the air and water is better now than in the 1950s, from a global perspective, laugh out loud stupid.

As for population densiy, I think everyone realises that 4 billion people is a massive strain on the earth's resources - fresh water in particular. You go into cities like Cairo, Johannesburg/Soweto or Mexico, each with more than 10 million people, and you wonder where the water can possibly come from for those people to drink and wash.

Hey,, quit going into the cities and try the woods/wild for awhile. There is much more of that than population centers...Fraidy cats.!

 

[daveman]

"Global Warming resisters should be recognized and treated."
-Karie Marie Norgaard (Goose-Stepping National Socialist)

What do you suppose she means by "treated"?

The left sure do like the involuntary medical solution to dissent, don't they?

 

[daveman]

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[daveman]

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Can you say witchhunt?

Can you say.....

KARMA-TIME,
IN THE RED-STATES??!!!

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Oh, look -- another retard like Wry Catcher blaming the victims of weather events for what happened because they didn't vote Democrat.

 

[daveman]

Bripat -

The funny comment was more the idea that the earth's air and oceans are cleaner than they were during the 1950s.

The claim was that the air and water are cleaner now than they were in the 1950s and 1960s. In the United States and other advanced economies, they are. We don't have control over the entire ocean, so we aren't responsible for everything that gets dumped into them.

I totally agree - much of the crap going into the air and ocean is now being dumped by China, India and Russia, not by the US and EU, which have much more effective environmental standards.

Unfortunately, we breathe the same air they do. I live within sight of the Baltic Sea, which is basically dead. It's been killed by runoff from agriculture, by manure from massive industrial chicken farms, and by untreated sewerage from St Peterburg, Gdansk, Riga and Tallinn.

That is not Finland's fault - but it is Finland's problem.

Google's claim that the air and water is better now than in the 1950s, from a global perspective, laugh out loud stupid.

As for population densiy, I think everyone realises that 4 billion people is a massive strain on the earth's resources - fresh water in particular. You go into cities like Cairo, Johannesburg/Soweto or Mexico, each with more than 10 million people, and you wonder where the water can possibly come from for those people to drink and wash.

So what's your solution to the extra 2.8 billion people? And is it a final one?

 

[FactFinder]

The evidence all appears to be that the smear campaigns are initiated from the global warmng activists. What was that email crap coming from the UK again?

 

[Saigon]

So what's your solution to the extra 2.8 billion people? And is it a final one?

My solution is to introduce systems in energy, transport, housing, food production and agriculture which recognise both land, air and water as limited commodities.

We need high tech solutions to reduce wastage of these resources, and we need to ensure the quality of those resources for future generations.

I don't know what you mean by 'final' - the earth is an evolving place, not a static one.

 

[Saigon]

The evidence all appears to be that the smear campaigns are initiated from the global warmng activists. What was that email crap coming from the UK again?

It was the subject of a smear campaign.

 

[FactFinder]

So what's your solution to the extra 2.8 billion people? And is it a final one?

My solution is to introduce systems in energy, transport, housing, food production and agriculture which recognise both land, air and water as limited commodities.

We need high tech solutions to reduce wastage of these resources, and we need to ensure the quality of those resources for future generations.

I don't know what you mean by 'final' - the earth is an evolving place, not a static one.

Limited by whose standards? Limited by what? The only limitation is time and whether you are cursed or blessed. We have the same amount of resources at any given moment. They have not departed the planet. There are more than any of us need. YOU WANT TO BE BLESSED WITH RESOURCES. THERE IS A SOURCE.

 

[Saigon]

We have the same amount of resources at any given moment. They have not departed the planet. There are more than any of us need. .

Actually no, we do NOT have the same amount of resources, because as water and land become badly polluted they reduce the amount of potable water and useable land available.

With more people on the planet than ever before, the demand for drinking water is greater than ever before. At the same time, more water is needed for agriculture and industry.


There are several principal manifestations of the water crisis.

Inadequate access to safe drinking water for about 884 million people
Inadequate access to water for sanitation and waste disposal for 2.5 billion people
Groundwater overdrafting (excessive use) leading to diminished agricultural yields
Overuse and pollution of water resources harming biodiversity
Regional conflicts over scarce water resources sometimes resulting in warfare

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_crisis

 

[daveman]

So what's your solution to the extra 2.8 billion people? And is it a final one?

My solution is to introduce systems in energy, transport, housing, food production and agriculture which recognise both land, air and water as limited commodities.

We need high tech solutions to reduce wastage of these resources, and we need to ensure the quality of those resources for future generations.

I don't know what you mean by 'final' - the earth is an evolving place, not a static one.

You just said 4 billion is a massive strain on resources. I wondered what you wanted to do with the other 2.8 billion.

Most environmental nutjobs want to kill them.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

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The end-game, of course. Once we take over the world we will need to eliminate our opposition. We need to know their names so we can kill them, obviously! You know about our world-wide conspiracy!

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

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This does sound like a good idea - it's terrible how many people in the usa seem to very easily misled by blogs and self-appointed experts, while ignoring genuine scientific sources. This is very much a US phenomenon, but it is disturbing.

Maybe it is time to out some of these anti-science voices?

The only people who are anti-science are the ones seeking to declare scientific debate closed.

Blogs aren't scientific debate. They're trash for trashy people.

 

[Saigon]

Most environmental nutjobs want to kill them.

What utter nonsense....honestly, why the hell would you post garbage like that?

 

[Old Rocks]

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This does sound like a good idea - it's terrible how many people in the usa seem to very easily misled by blogs and self-appointed experts, while ignoring genuine scientific sources. This is very much a US phenomenon, but it is disturbing.

Maybe it is time to out some of these anti-science voices?

"Academic credentials" are meaningless when it comes to scientific truth. Citing credentials to support your claims is a fallacy known as the "appeal to authority." The fact that you even mention itshows that, like all warmist cult members, you are a scintific ignoramus.

I ignore "scientific sources" when they use obviously doctored data, attempt to stifle skektics, and engage in intimidation and harassment of their critics.

"Genuine scientific sources" is a warmist euphemism meaning sources that support the cult.

Boy, talk about an admission of willfull ignorance. Years of acedemic study, decades of real research on the subject, means nothing. The opinion of someone that couldn't pass a 101 Basic Science course is far more accurate. What fools post on this board

 

[Old Rocks]

Global warming exists, for numerous reasons.........As does climate change historically

Just not much in the last ten years, and not in line with alarmists expectations

Then again, they were on the global cooling bandwagon back in the seventies........

Our only hope is for humanity to regress, thats our only chance Before its too late !!!!

Another lies swallowed hook, sinker, and all by the ignorant.

What were climate scientists predicting in the 1970s?

The fact is that around 1970 there were 6 times as many scientists predicting a warming rather than a cooling planet. Today, with 30+years more data to analyse, we've reached a clear scientific consensus: 97% of working climate scientists agree with the view that human beings are causing global warming.