An Al Quaeda Coup de Grâce to the economy?

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    A Petrolios Mexicano truck with 17 tons of explosives used for drilling has been stolen in Tamaulipas, Mexico (Just south of Texas). Nobody knows who stole it, but if it was not the drug cartels, then it had to be terrorists.

    Of corse, it all depends upon who did the stealing. Al Quaeda has placed over 1000 operatives in Mexico. They have quite successfully blended in with the population and can pass for Mexicans quite easily. We know that several of their plans include procuring explosives to put into planes that they can fly low over the border and attack border cities or large cities near the border. They know that our fighters will not shoot them down, but will try to escort them to landing fields if we interdict them at all. The planes will target the largest buildings in Los Angeles, Anaheim, Long Beach, San Diego, Phoenix, Tucson, Albuquerque, Dallas, Fort Worth, Austin, Houston and elsewhere to show Americans that they are, indeed at war, and America is still going to be bombed any time Al Quaeda wants to.

    They can also divide up the explosive and place it in the center of nitrogen fertilizer soaked with kerosene and drive it to border checkpoints to attack border stations if selected for inspection or big American City hubs if not inspected. The sad reality is that our border inspections are very poor and we pass trucks through quite easily and often with no inspection of the cargo's within. We just look at paperwork and pass them on through if it looks proper.

    If randomly selected for inspection, they pull up to the inspection station where hundreds of border patrol inspectors are in close proximity. They could stall while the other trucks are passed through with a wave of the hand and hit our highways to raise hell in our cities. Meanwhile the inspected truck would slowly back up to the large inspection building and when it is in place and the inspectors are waiting for the driver to come to the back to open the truck, he will just disappear after setting the fuse/timer to go off in ten minutes.

    The border patrol agents will not forcefully enter the truck, because they do not have orders to break the seal initially. They will wait politely for the driver. Even if they did go in, they would not recognize it as a massive bomb until it was too late.

    KA-BOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!

    There will be initial news reports of a massive explosion at Nogales or San Diego or other border stations, but nothing linking that explosion to trucks on the American highways. Somebody might connect the dots a few hours later, but by then, it will have been too late. and there will be BIG KA-BOOOOOOOOMS in a lot of major American Cities.

    Does anybody have any idea what an attack like that could do to the American Economy and the stock market? It would be the kiss of death to America as we would collapse. We simply could not fund a bigger war, and even if we wanted to, where would we take it. By attacking the two towers in the financial center of the world, Osama predicted that eventually he would bring down the entire American Empire. And you know what, it looks like he is in position to administer the final coup de grâce
     
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    Another good reason why law abiding citizens should be well armed.

    Osama does not have the ability to take the country down. He may have the ability to create a bit of misery in certain areas but that is all and even that is very limited.
     
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    Podner, do you know what happened to the stock market and the economy after 9/11?


    I feel that I have an obligation to write about our weaknesses, especially after 9/11, so we can correct our defenses. Unfortunately, nothing is being done to correct these weaknesses in America.

    Unidentified planes should be shot down if there is any suspicion about their intentions.

    All trucks should be inspected and that inspection process should be accomplished away from buildings and large concentrations of people, including large concentrations of inspectors.

    For years I have criticized the policy of allowing cars and trucks to drive past the front of airport terminals to pick up passengers. Nothing has been done about that, though it would not be hard to have the passenger pick up areas one thousand yards away from any major structure.

    The damn terminals are glass and concrete structures that would be ideal for a truck bomb. Collapsing roofs after a blast of glass slicing people to pieces would sure make for a horrendous terror attack. On a busy day, a thousand or more people could be killed in an attack such as that.

    Yet, nothing is done about this. We just plug on totally oblivious to the dangers we have here at home. Dangers that are an open invitation to terrorist attack. We are not ready for the next wave of the war that Al Quaeda will bring to us.
     
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    So you are suggesting people live in absolute fear continually? Hell at the KC airport mom had to take out of her hair a small metal barrette she had had since the 60's before she could go into the loading area. They threw it in the trash. This little old white haired lady was damn near strip searched because she was wearing a bra with under wires. How ridiculous is that?

    Common sense is not what is used in these so called security canvasses we have. America went to the dogs and the ill behaved dogs have taken over while they fill their own greedy little pockets. Don't fly drive or stay home. As far as coming and going back and forth across the border I'd say it is a personal problem. Five six years ago coming back from South TX we went through one of the checks. The one guy was a hoot (not really). He was going to play tough guy when his dog pissed all over itself after the guy stuck his face up into Rod's face at the drivers window. Hos jumped up from the back seat and went woof! The guy's dog pissed all over and it insulted the dumb bastard. He was thinking he wanted to harass us after that. Thankfully his superior had a good sense of humor and told him to back off.

    Those cars and trucks are backed up for a long ways at the border checks. The guys walk back through there with the dogs. So these cars and pickups don't actually get right through without some waiting time involved.

    Surely those little guys and video monitors at the front of the airport where you drive in keep their eyes open for any strange looking vehicles coming in.

    I am very well in tune on what happen on 9/11 and even there after. Certain sects around the world cheered when it happened. Let us look at what attacked. The world trade center. Is not that one of the places where the great spiritual whore Babylon has dwelt? Why were these people cheering? What creates hatred? Why wouldn't the people who are being suppressed around the world want their rich/oppressors to fail? I mean these people see it as being American led since many of those oppressors use American resources to go to war with them. The rich around the world oppress and the poor class suffers. The middle class whines because they have to now pay the price for what the rich greedy ones have done to the poor. That is the way it has worked.


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    Absolute fear continually? I have never said that. Are you mentally off balance? Because it sure looks like it.

    Your stories about TSA screening at the airport are total lies and you come across as a damned liar. I think you need serious psychiatric help. You are babbling with total dishonesty as your guiding light. Please get help.
     
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    You can call it what you like but I stood there and watched what they did to my mother asshole. You are fear mongering.
     
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    The stolen explosives seem like a legitimate concern to me. But then again, I live near the border and have seen some of the stuff that goes across, unchecked, for years.
    I drove a truck over the road for about a year after I retired. It was something I always wanted to do. I had to stop because of health reasons.
    During the time I was driving, I was amazed and dismayed to find out that I had to drop my load at the border, and let a mexican driver take it into the interior of Mexico. At the same time, mexican truck drivers drove right across our border and delivered their load. I still wonder about the logic of those policies.
    On the other hand, there are places along the border where one can drive a truck across with little chance of being detected. The main efforts of our border security are concentrated at the major legal crossings. Despite that, it would only seem prudent to at least check loads atthe border. As an American truck driver, my seal was broken by law enforcement a few times. That meant I had to wait for a company rep, or an independent rep, to come out, check the load and re-seal it. It really wasn't that big of a deal.
    I don't think anyone should engage in 'fear-mongering', but at the same time I don't think we should be blinded by 'political correctness' to the point of compromising issues of security that could otherwise be addressed.

    On a side note, the FLDS in the area I live in (yes those polygamists) celebrated the towers falling on 911. They didn't do it out of hate though, they did so because they saw it as a sign that the apocolypse was at hand and they would be "carried into heaven". When I asked a friend of mine (yes i have a friend with 5 wives) about it, he said they were forbidden to dance in normal times, but the "prophet" demanded they dance at the prospect of the apocolypse.
    just a little side note for amusement.....
     
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    I would assume that law enforcement is all over finding those stolen explosives. Neubarth's attempts here to just called me a liar are his blind attempts to insult. I do not appreciate some of the security checks that are ridiculous yet I also understand somethings are a necessity. Rod had a little tiny pocket knife in his pocket one day when we went to get some copies of my file at the SBA office. The security guard made Rod give him that pocket knife and supposedly put it in the trash bin. On our way out five minutes later Rod asked for his pocket knife back, (it was one of those old pearl handle ones). The guy claimed they had already emptied the trash. We knew the asshole was lying but hey that is what we have as proclaimed security going on out here. Paying some thief to steal minor items from the public as they enter into a federal building. Rod was pissed. I told him next time remember to empty your pockets before you ever get there to the door. In case you are wondering why Rod did not walk back out to the parking area and put his knife in the vehicle I'll tell you. He assumed that he would be able to get it back when we left. He is partially handicap and cannot walk that distance it would have taken to walk back out to the vehicle and then back into the building again without having a lot of pain.
     
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    I understand your objections to neubarth, it took me quite ahile to actually understand his posts. At times it seems like he is gleeful about the bad news he predicts. On numbers though, he is right on the money.
    I also feel that some of the security measures are silly. I seldom fly because of them. I used to. One example is the factthat everyone has to take off their shoes because of the shoe bomber. Now that we have had an underwear bomber, i guess the underwear will come off next......
    I too would expect that law enforcement is looking for the explosives, at least on the northern side of the border.
    I go to Nogales an a regular basis, and i doubt the mexican authorities have either the desire or the resources to spend much time looking.
    When I heard that explosives were stolen in Mexico, i thought of something else. The drug wars down there are pretty violent. I halfway expect to hear of the bombing of a warehouse, or safehouse. Additionally, I could see them using the explosives to make tunnels.
    I doubt that anything gets stolen in Mexico without the approval of the drug gangs.
     
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    I'd be willing to wager that there are American investigators all over this one...even south.
     
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