Americans' Global Warming Concerns Continue to Drop

[saveliberty]

I am begining to question scientists in general. We are told mamograms are important, then not so important. This study refutes that study. Makes you wonder how good the research is today.

The basic data on temperatures over the last 40 years has been lost for the most part. So how are scientists able to believe in warming with no raw data to work from? How can they look past empirical evidence without investigating more?

The biggest threat from a global warming world would be flooding of coastal areas. Not happening to date. Very hard to believe a science that can't make accurate predictions.

And this is the whole thrust of the campaign to delegitimize science. And it is working. Your children and grandchildren will get to enjoy the results of it.

You can thank the bought and paid for government funded science workers (not really scientists anymore) for that.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Here is a site with excellent information on the causes of Global Warming:

Global Warming Facts and Our Future - Causes of Change - The Natural Climate Cycle

And here are some of their sources:

Climate models – National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR), NOAA Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory (GFDL), Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research

Glacial topography – W. Richard Peltier, University of Toronto

Global CO2 emission rates – Energy Information Administration

Sea level rise vulnerability data – James Titus, Environmental Protection Agency

20th-century temperature – NOAA National Climatic Data Center and University of East Anglia

1000-year Northern Hemisphere temperature – Michael Mann, University of Virginia

350,000-year Antarctic temperature and CO2– Kurt Cuffey, University of California, Berkeley

From the link

"The importance of human causes has been increasing during the past few decades."

Wow - that's so deep. Way so deep that the deniers can't even ponder it as a possibility.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I'm cold. Brrr.

Right?

Our winter temps here have been below average the whole season. I'm wondering where MY global warming was when it was 20+ degrees with 10-20 mph winds and I was working outside.

Really. It's mid-March in Tucson, and I'm still wearing long pants and jackets everywhere. What's up with this?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Of course the concerns continue to drop. Bush the great Warmer is gone.

Wow. Bush was Even More of an EVUL OMNIPOTENT GENIUS that any of us could have imagined.

Does he have X-Ray vision too?

What amazes me is that he could have been an evil, omnipotent genius while simultaneously being a drooling idiot. I can't understand why leftists even bothered to oppose someone of such power.

 

[The T]

Amazing what some faked data and corruption can do, isn't it.

Americans' Global Warming Concerns Continue to Drop

Yep. Especially when so many bought into it early on...being parroted by so many media outlets, and now that it's been shown to be a great LIE perpetrated by liars to get their hands on Government largess worldwide at the expense of people and their lifstyles?

They left AGW out of the question. The A is crucial.

It just tells me that the media was complicit in their quest to thicken the froth of a huge LIE.

Real Science though may never recover.

 

[Avatar4321]

And this is the whole thrust of the campaign to delegitimize science. And it is working. Your children and grandchildren will get to enjoy the results of it.

No. It's to legitimize actual science and eliminate Junk science.

You see science doesnt have an agenda. Science looks at the facts. It creates theories that fits the facts and then tests by making sure those facts cant be disproved

Now according to the global warming believers, everything is evidence of global warming. Even contradictory information. The fact that the tempature has been going down since 1998 is evidence of global warming. More snow, less snow. Both global warming. Earthquakes global warming. We are told that the evil corporations are trying to warm the planet so that we all freeze our asses off.

That's nice science. Consensus isn't science. Science is hard facts. Something the global warming activists lack or they wouldnt be manufacturing and altering data.

 

[boedicca]

Isn't it convenient that the AGWers have formed a Great Unifying Theory in which everything that occurs anywhere at any time supports their Global Warming Claim?

 

[Avatar4321]

Isn't it convenient that the AGWers have formed a Great Unifying Theory in which everything that occurs anywhere at any time supports their Global Warming Claim?

Very convenient. And isnt it also convenient that the solutions to their global warming problem just happen to be the same ones they were advocating under the banner of socialism that the people rejected and which are designed to give the politicians even more power in our lives?

 

[boedicca]

Indeed. Green is the New Red.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Vast,

More and more of the collection sites for temperature are in metro areas. These are notorious heat sinks. Is that data all rounded down? Over 80% are in areas that don't meet NOAA's standards for collection sites. Most are due to heat sources being too close.

Really? What right-wing site did you find this talking point on?

Perhaps you would be so kind as to illustrate your point by providing us with a chart listing locations for various temperature readings?

Otherwise you are speaking from your posterior region.

"According to the U.S. government, a surface station must be at least 100 feet away from a heat source/sink to be considered reliable. Using the goverment's own standards for properly locating temperature sensors, Watts graded each site on a scale from 1 to 5. A grade of 1 or 2 indicates reliable placement. A grade of 3 to 5 can result in temperature errors of several degrees, according to the governments own studies.

To date, the investigation has noted that only 3 percent of the stations surveyed were grade 1. Roughly 8 percent were grade 2, meaning only 11 percent of the stations are located in a manner that results in reliable temperature data.

Some 20 percent of stations were grade 3, the majority were grade 4 (58 percent), and 11 percent were graded as 5."

"The adjustments also help to 'fix' the gaps in the missing data, there is an adjustment for the new MMTS instrumentation, an adjustment for station moves, and time of observation.
These adjustments amount to a net 'warming' that is applied to the 'raw' data."

Is The U.S. Temperature Record Reliable? - wbztv.com

I thank you for having me look up some old sources. I ran across this new one:
Global Warming Science and Public Policy - U.S. Temperature Rankings Rearranged, Problems and Concerns with Temperature data sets

"But last week (week of August 16,2007), a problem popped up. Researchers Steve McIntyre (A New Leaderboard at the U.S. Open Climate Audit) and Anthony Watts (Watts Up With That?: 1998 no longer the hottest year on record in USA) noticed that there seemed to be an unusual discontinuity—a step upwards—in the temperature records from many of the individual stations that went into the GISS U.S. national aggregate.

Upon carefully documenting this apparent discontinuity and inquiring to the record keepers at GISS about it, it was determined that GISS had accidentally incorporated a data error in their routines aimed at updating and compiling individual station histories as well as the U.S. national temperatures.

After adjusting their procedure to account for this problem, NASA GISS has now made available a new and improved temperature history of the United States. In this more accurate record, the year 2006 now drops to the 4th warmest year of all-time, a full 0.12ºC behind the new sole record-holder, 1934. In the new dataset, only three of the past 10 years are included among the top-10 warmest years of all-time in the United States."

It would be appreciated if you would keep the discourse civil VastLWC. Also, I tire of doing your homework. You will have to refute my statements with your own sources in the future.

I seem to remember also reading somewhere that the data collection changed in the late 1980s with the collapse of the Soviet Union and the subsequent closing of many of their data collection sites. Tellingly, those sites were in Siberia.

 

[Alpha1]

Yawn.....those brain-washed warmers have their Al Gore talking points burned into their skulls.....think the shore in gonna be in Ohio ?....what silly nonsense....

 

[Oddball]

From the link

"The importance of human causes has been increasing during the past few decades."

Wow - that's so deep. Way so deep that the deniers can't even ponder it as a possibility.

"Importance" as defined only by the warmist cargo cultists and their willing toadies in the American MSM.

Otherwise, the "has been" part of that passage is its most relevant.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

From the link

"The importance of human causes has been increasing during the past few decades."

Wow - that's so deep. Way so deep that the deniers can't even ponder it as a possibility.

"Importance" as defined only by the warmist cargo cultists and their willing toadies in the American MSM.

Otherwise, the "has been" part of that passage is its most relevant.

You're a moron.

 

[Dr Grump]

Amazing what some faked data and corruption can do, isn't it.

Americans' Global Warming Concerns Continue to Drop

That is very much a concern....

 

[Oddball]

From the link

"The importance of human causes has been increasing during the past few decades."

Wow - that's so deep. Way so deep that the deniers can't even ponder it as a possibility.

"Importance" as defined only by the warmist cargo cultists and their willing toadies in the American MSM.

Otherwise, the "has been" part of that passage is its most relevant.

You're a moron.

And you're losing the battle.

Too bad, so sad...

 

[Dr Grump]

You guys take a mistake and run with it....

 

[Oddball]

Seems that there are lots of "mistakes" to run with lately.

Where there's smoke.......

 

[Dr Grump]

Seems that there are lots of "mistakes" to run with lately.

Where there's smoke.......

Not really that many..

If I list the last 20 winners of the best picture award at the Oscars and get one wrong, doesn't mean the other 19 are...

...just sayin'.....

 

[Oddball]

Nice example.

You do know that the people who vote for the Oscars are all industry insiders, don't you?

Foo.

 

[Dr Grump]

Which has what to with what I'm sayin'..........