Si modo
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We're still in Germany and Japan, so anyone who didn't expect that is a fool.With Iraq, America needs to stay there for at least another 20 years if not longer...
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We're still in Germany and Japan, so anyone who didn't expect that is a fool.With Iraq, America needs to stay there for at least another 20 years if not longer...
When the leaders of the most powerful government in the world, which also happens to be the most democratic and the most peaceful, decide that it is no longer any of our business what the rest of the world..guess what? We cease to matter.
I wonder what the pacifists who insist we have no business moderating those countries that insist on violating the civil rights of their own people, who beg us for help against terrorists from other countries who slaughter their people, who want tyrannical despots deposed, will say when we let those guys just do their own thing, they gain more power, and turn en masse against us?
Will they say we deserve it?
LOL. Ask any Native American.
We're still in Germany and Japan, so anyone who didn't expect that is a fool.With Iraq, America needs to stay there for at least another 20 years if not longer...
you don't think they'll be able to extricate before that? I'd think they'll have no choice but to do so.
We're still in Germany and Japan, so anyone who didn't expect that is a fool.With Iraq, America needs to stay there for at least another 20 years if not longer...
you don't think they'll be able to extricate before that? I'd think they'll have no choice but to do so.
You've been there 6 years already. You need to build up at least one if not two generations of Iraqis that know what peace is, so that the old guard slowly die off, and peace becomes the norm. Dunno if you will ever get over the hatred of the three main groups though.
Look at Germany and Japan - you're still there after 65 years, and they were a lot easier to manage than this lot..
you don't think they'll be able to extricate before that? I'd think they'll have no choice but to do so.
You've been there 6 years already. You need to build up at least one if not two generations of Iraqis that know what peace is, so that the old guard slowly die off, and peace becomes the norm. Dunno if you will ever get over the hatred of the three main groups though.
Look at Germany and Japan - you're still there after 65 years, and they were a lot easier to manage than this lot..
Si agrees with you. I'm just not sure we can afford the expense of Iraq and Afghanistan like we could afford to maintain occupation forces in German during the post-WWII boom years.
We're still in Germany and Japan, so anyone who didn't expect that is a fool.With Iraq, America needs to stay there for at least another 20 years if not longer...
Different, Si. They aren't in a hostile situation in Germany. Haven't been in my lifetime and our forces were peacetime forces even when my dad was an MP in Wurtzburg (sp?)
you don't think they'll be able to extricate before that? I'd think they'll have no choice but to do so.
You've been there 6 years already. You need to build up at least one if not two generations of Iraqis that know what peace is, so that the old guard slowly die off, and peace becomes the norm. Dunno if you will ever get over the hatred of the three main groups though.
Look at Germany and Japan - you're still there after 65 years, and they were a lot easier to manage than this lot..
you don't think they'll be able to extricate before that? I'd think they'll have no choice but to do so.
You've been there 6 years already. You need to build up at least one if not two generations of Iraqis that know what peace is, so that the old guard slowly die off, and peace becomes the norm. Dunno if you will ever get over the hatred of the three main groups though.
Look at Germany and Japan - you're still there after 65 years, and they were a lot easier to manage than this lot..
lmao....japan and germany were in fact hostile for many years afterwards....
oh, not my lifetime so it must not have happened....
Not THAT hostile..I think Germany had a group called the Werewolves, or somesuch, a remnant of the Nazis. But it was relatively peaceful.
Japan almost had its own American dictator in the form of MacArthur.......and he tried it a second time in Korea!
When the leaders of the most powerful government in the world, which also happens to be the most democratic and the most peaceful, decide that it is no longer any of our business what the rest of the world..guess what? We cease to matter.
When the leaders of the most powerful government in the world, which also happens to be the most democratic and the most peaceful
A 'spit my mouthful of water over my screen' moment if every I've had one..
most powerful govt? Absolutely.
Most peaceful? Not even close
Most democratic? Laughable assertion...
When the leaders of the most powerful government in the world, which also happens to be the most democratic and the most peaceful, decide that it is no longer any of our business what the rest of the world..guess what? We cease to matter.
The United States is not "the most peaceful" country in the world.
You've been there 6 years already. You need to build up at least one if not two generations of Iraqis that know what peace is, so that the old guard slowly die off, and peace becomes the norm. Dunno if you will ever get over the hatred of the three main groups though.
Look at Germany and Japan - you're still there after 65 years, and they were a lot easier to manage than this lot..
Si agrees with you. I'm just not sure we can afford the expense of Iraq and Afghanistan like we could afford to maintain occupation forces in German during the post-WWII boom years.
we can't afford the stimulus and other matters, but that doesn't stop you from supporting them....