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    ... the Ugandan Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009 which calls for the death penalty for homosexuals and other draconian measures.



    "For three days, according to participants and audio recordings, thousands of Ugandans, including police officers, teachers and national politicians, listened raptly to the Americans, who were presented as experts on homosexuality. The visitors discussed how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how “the gay movement is an evil institution” whose goal is “to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity.”
    Now the three Americans are finding themselves on the defensive, saying they had no intention of helping stoke the kind of anger that could lead to what came next: a bill to impose a death sentence for homosexual behavior.

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    Uganda has also become a magnet for American evangelical groups. Some of the best known Christian personalities have recently passed through here, often bringing with them anti-homosexuality messages, including the Rev. Rick Warren, who visited in 2008 and has compared homosexuality to pedophilia. (Mr. Warren recently condemned the anti-homosexuality bill, seeking to correct what he called “lies and errors and false reports” that he played a role in it.)"

    Americans’ Role Seen in Uganda Anti-Gay Push - NYTimes.com
     
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    Seen by whom?

    I think that in and of itself is what's important. I could see you as a heartless mindnumb robot. But if it's not true, it's not true.

    So some people who want to smear evangelicals "see" them as the reason for these laws, that is not at all indicative of reality.

    Words mean something.
     
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    You sound defensive. Were you in Uganda recently?
     
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    Nope. Not an evangelical either. I just think the choice of words is interesting.
     
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    I think they refer to themselves as American Evangelical Christians.
     
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    Here is someone:
    "Of course, the radical evangelicals in question were -- or at least pretended to be -- horrified at this practical summation of their views, immediately wrote panicky letters to Ugandan officials to correct their unfortunate "misinterpretation," as damn well they should have.
    "No, no, no!" they sort of said. "We didn't mean actually kill them. That would be wrong. We simply meant gently, lovingly rehabilitate. You know: drugs, imprisonment, maybe some beatings, public humiliation, brainwashing, genital torture, electroshock therapy like the Mormons used to do"
    When scary Jesus makes the news
     
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    I can't count the number of times the conservative right wing Republcian Confederates go nuts when I bring up this stuff.
    These Evangelicals are all over the Internet with their "message" of Jesus love and acceptance.

    Now, this is a hoot. Here is a video by Rick Warren:

    Rick Warren - Letter To The Pastors of Uganda from Dr. Rick Warren

    Just before Obama spoke at Warren's church, he had to clean up his website and get rid of the rhetoric that "gays were NOT welcome" in his church.

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    "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." Leviticus 20:13 NAB

    This in the same book as "Noah's Ark" and "Samson" and "Jonah and the Whale" and "The Flintstones" and "Casper the Friendly Ghost". Oh, wait, did I get the right "ghost"?

    Rick Warren put aside his true feelings because he was receiving a "national spotlight". Evangelical Conservatives Republicans want to do that here. Only the law protects gay Americans from their violence. If you spread hateful religious beliefs against patriotic Americans, who have done nothing wrong, then you should have the balls, stand up, and admit it.
     
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    Thanks for allowing three people represent all Christians in your mind.

    Manson must represent the non-Christians. I don't think so.
     
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    In the minds of you people these evanelicals recommended the death penalty. You will carry that foolish belief to your graves.
     
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    You are full of it.
     

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