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Bernie is a republican? Or all lobbyists are republicans?
Bernie, No. Lobbyists, Probably, Republicans keep them employed.
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Bernie is a republican? Or all lobbyists are republicans?
Democrats don't do business with lobbyists?Bernie is a republican? Or all lobbyists are republicans?
Bernie, No. Lobbyists, Probably, Republicans keep them employed.
Sure, he makes more money. It does not mean that he is a better doctor or that his patients get better care.Canada, Mexico, Britian and most of the more respectable european nations have it.
1. 100% of all people have healthcare
2. Most of these nations spend less dollars. What do we get for $8,100/person??? Canada is far cheaper!!! They also don't allow their drug companies to jack up prices to take away peoples retirements.
3. No one is left dying while some rich mother fucker is getting millions of dollars off of the system. It is called a failure of the market system. Canada has shown us the way and it is time to dump this shit!!!!
What's funny is the reality that none of these other nations soak the people most in need as much as we do. And for what? Oh'yesss, so some ceo or board member can live like a king.
I say replace Obamacare with single payer!!! Do it now. I honestly don't understand why the republicans would want a system that been shown to fail and costs this nation so much.
My cousin and I just had this conversation over the holiday. His doctor is from the UK. He was a practicing doctor there as well. He told my cousin that he lived and practiced under a socialized system over there and now he lives in practices under our system here. He said there is a reason he continues to stay here instead of going back there.
Your statements mean nothing without context. Please give it, with facts, figures, and links.Canada, Mexico, Britian and most of the more respectable european nations have it.
1. 100% of all people have healthcare
2. Most of these nations spend less dollars. What do we get for $8,100/person??? Canada is far cheaper!!! They also don't allow their drug companies to jack up prices to take away peoples retirements.
3. No one is left dying while some rich mother fucker is getting millions of dollars off of the system. It is called a failure of the market system. Canada has shown us the way and it is time to dump this shit!!!!
What's funny is the reality that none of these other nations soak the people most in need as much as we do. And for what? Oh'yesss, so some ceo or board member can live like a king.
I say replace Obamacare with single payer!!! Do it now. I honestly don't understand why the republicans would want a system that been shown to fail and costs this nation so much.
How is the QUALITY of healthcare of Mexico, Canada, and UK compared to US? How do you explain people from those countries coming to US for healthcare if theirs is so great? Canada's doctors leave Canada to go practice in the US.
It can be. In Germany they have an entirely different concept of healthcare. Some of it is cultural and some of it is the system that they have. You do not ask your doctor questions, you do not get involved in your own healthcare and you certainly do not make decisions about what treatments you are going to undergo. The doctor always thought we didn't like him or his care because we were involved in my sons care. There, the doctor tells you what you are going to do and when you are going to do it - there is no decisions and there are no second opinions. You are not part of your own healthcare.This whole ordeal has been amplified by the fact that we have medical professionals in the family both here and there. The one here will toss out a treatment idea and the one there says yeah, that would be nice, but it's not something we can do here. Pretty frustrating.We have also received cancer care in the states and Germany. The differences are quite stark.At this moment I have two sisters-in-law who are fighting cancer.
One lives in America, the other near London.
The differences in speed of care and (most importantly) treatment options are stark and real.
An expansion of Medicare/Medicare Advantage/Medicare Supplements? Yes. True single payer? I sure hope not.
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The other side to this coin is, of course, that we had coverage. There is another story for those that do not. In our case, everyone gets covered to some extent though - the number of charities out there for what we went through is massive and there is help almost everywhere.
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So where do you make up the $100 billion A YEAR that the 1,400 insurance companies that would be out of business come from or the 450,000 people that would be unemployed?Canada, Mexico, Britian and most of the more respectable european nations have it.
1. 100% of all people have healthcare
2. Most of these nations spend less dollars. What do we get for $8,100/person??? Canada is far cheaper!!! They also don't allow their drug companies to jack up prices to take away peoples retirements.
3. No one is left dying while some rich mother fucker is getting millions of dollars off of the system. It is called a failure of the market system. Canada has shown us the way and it is time to dump this shit!!!!
What's funny is the reality that none of these other nations soak the people most in need as much as we do. And for what? Oh'yesss, so some ceo or board member can live like a king.
I say replace Obamacare with single payer!!! Do it now. I honestly don't understand why the republicans would want a system that been shown to fail and costs this nation so much.
Fuck you. You are just pissed your can't any longer use catastrophic insurance to privatize your profit while socializing your risk on the rest of us.It's a stupid idea. The last thing we need is the Canadian or the British System. Any system for that matter.
Don't give the goverent that much control over your life and don't force me to pay for the healthcare of others.
Fuck those parasites.
Canada, Mexico, Britian and most of the more respectable european nations have it.
1. 100% of all people have healthcare
2. Most of these nations spend less dollars. What do we get for $8,100/person??? Canada is far cheaper!!! They also don't allow their drug companies to jack up prices to take away peoples retirements.
3. No one is left dying while some rich mother fucker is getting millions of dollars off of the system. It is called a failure of the market system. Canada has shown us the way and it is time to dump this shit!!!!
What's funny is the reality that none of these other nations soak the people most in need as much as we do. And for what? Oh'yesss, so some ceo or board member can live like a king.
I say replace Obamacare with single payer!!! Do it now. I honestly don't understand why the republicans would want a system that been shown to fail and costs this nation so much.
Very sorry to hear about your son, thanks for the info.It can be. In Germany they have an entirely different concept of healthcare. Some of it is cultural and some of it is the system that they have. You do not ask your doctor questions, you do not get involved in your own healthcare and you certainly do not make decisions about what treatments you are going to undergo. The doctor always thought we didn't like him or his care because we were involved in my sons care. There, the doctor tells you what you are going to do and when you are going to do it - there is no decisions and there are no second opinions. You are not part of your own healthcare.This whole ordeal has been amplified by the fact that we have medical professionals in the family both here and there. The one here will toss out a treatment idea and the one there says yeah, that would be nice, but it's not something we can do here. Pretty frustrating.We have also received cancer care in the states and Germany. The differences are quite stark.At this moment I have two sisters-in-law who are fighting cancer.
One lives in America, the other near London.
The differences in speed of care and (most importantly) treatment options are stark and real.
An expansion of Medicare/Medicare Advantage/Medicare Supplements? Yes. True single payer? I sure hope not.
.
The other side to this coin is, of course, that we had coverage. There is another story for those that do not. In our case, everyone gets covered to some extent though - the number of charities out there for what we went through is massive and there is help almost everywhere.
.
I was also surprised with some of the inefficiencies that they have that did not carry over to the states. I expected some of the idiosyncrasies to be grater over here considering the much larger threat of being sued but it was the opposite. For instance, my son had a port placed in his chest for frequent injections. In Germany we had to drive to the hospital every 2 days during outpatient services in order to have them flush the line with blood thinner to ensure it did not becomes scabbed over inside his vein. In the states I simply did it myself. The doctor gave us a prescription and we flushed the line on our own. Hell, we even had a home IV pump for some of the chemo so that he could stay home and did not need to go into spend the entire 2 year cycle at the hospital. That is something that we would never had in Germany.
The problem is that health care has now become a political issue - that means that it become dumbed down and bumperstickered into oblivion.It's a stupid idea. The last thing we need is the Canadian or the British System. Any system for that matter..
Thanks but we are doing well. He is out of treatment for about 3 years now. He went through almost 4 years of treatment (it came back after the first cycle) but all is well now. Going through something like that really gives you a lot of insight on the healthcare system though.Very sorry to hear about your son, thanks for the info.It can be. In Germany they have an entirely different concept of healthcare. Some of it is cultural and some of it is the system that they have. You do not ask your doctor questions, you do not get involved in your own healthcare and you certainly do not make decisions about what treatments you are going to undergo. The doctor always thought we didn't like him or his care because we were involved in my sons care. There, the doctor tells you what you are going to do and when you are going to do it - there is no decisions and there are no second opinions. You are not part of your own healthcare.This whole ordeal has been amplified by the fact that we have medical professionals in the family both here and there. The one here will toss out a treatment idea and the one there says yeah, that would be nice, but it's not something we can do here. Pretty frustrating.We have also received cancer care in the states and Germany. The differences are quite stark.At this moment I have two sisters-in-law who are fighting cancer.
One lives in America, the other near London.
The differences in speed of care and (most importantly) treatment options are stark and real.
An expansion of Medicare/Medicare Advantage/Medicare Supplements? Yes. True single payer? I sure hope not.
.
The other side to this coin is, of course, that we had coverage. There is another story for those that do not. In our case, everyone gets covered to some extent though - the number of charities out there for what we went through is massive and there is help almost everywhere.
.
I was also surprised with some of the inefficiencies that they have that did not carry over to the states. I expected some of the idiosyncrasies to be grater over here considering the much larger threat of being sued but it was the opposite. For instance, my son had a port placed in his chest for frequent injections. In Germany we had to drive to the hospital every 2 days during outpatient services in order to have them flush the line with blood thinner to ensure it did not becomes scabbed over inside his vein. In the states I simply did it myself. The doctor gave us a prescription and we flushed the line on our own. Hell, we even had a home IV pump for some of the chemo so that he could stay home and did not need to go into spend the entire 2 year cycle at the hospital. That is something that we would never had in Germany.
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That actually depends on where you are at in those systems. Getting to the initial care is a problem and where much of the issues are. It can take months to be properly diagnosed and get treatment. Some die in that period - my son almost did as well. It took them 5 weeks to actually take a look at him and realize the diagnosis that they were going with was asinine. The only reason that he survived is that we had one doctor that wasn't a moron and ordered the proper tests. The first 3 didn't bother to do their damn jobs.Canada, Mexico, Britian and most of the more respectable european nations have it.
1. 100% of all people have healthcare
2. Most of these nations spend less dollars. What do we get for $8,100/person??? Canada is far cheaper!!! They also don't allow their drug companies to jack up prices to take away peoples retirements.
3. No one is left dying while some rich mother fucker is getting millions of dollars off of the system. It is called a failure of the market system. Canada has shown us the way and it is time to dump this shit!!!!
What's funny is the reality that none of these other nations soak the people most in need as much as we do. And for what? Oh'yesss, so some ceo or board member can live like a king.
I say replace Obamacare with single payer!!! Do it now. I honestly don't understand why the republicans would want a system that been shown to fail and costs this nation so much.
All of those systems are collapsing...and the care sucks for the old.....if you are young and don't need care...they are great...old and need actual treatment...they suck....
Canada, Mexico, Britian and most of the more respectable european nations have it.
1. 100% of all people have healthcare
2. Most of these nations spend less dollars. What do we get for $8,100/person??? Canada is far cheaper!!! They also don't allow their drug companies to jack up prices to take away peoples retirements.
3. No one is left dying while some rich mother fucker is getting millions of dollars off of the system. It is called a failure of the market system. Canada has shown us the way and it is time to dump this shit!!!!
What's funny is the reality that none of these other nations soak the people most in need as much as we do. And for what? Oh'yesss, so some ceo or board member can live like a king.
I say replace Obamacare with single payer!!! Do it now. I honestly don't understand why the republicans would want a system that been shown to fail and costs this nation so much.
My cousin and I just had this conversation over the holiday. His doctor is from the UK. He was a practicing doctor there as well. He told my cousin that he lived and practiced under a socialized system over there and now he lives in practices under our system here. He said there is a reason he continues to stay here instead of going back there.
We have also received cancer care in the states and Germany. The differences are quite stark.At this moment I have two sisters-in-law who are fighting cancer.
One lives in America, the other near London.
The differences in speed of care and (most importantly) treatment options are stark and real.
An expansion of Medicare/Medicare Advantage/Medicare Supplements? Yes. True single payer? I sure hope not.
.
The other side to this coin is, of course, that we had coverage. There is another story for those that do not. In our case, everyone gets covered to some extent though - the number of charities out there for what we went through is massive and there is help almost everywhere.