Am i the only one who thinks it's GOOD the government shuts down?

[Hutch Starskey]

It was the Republicans who orchestrated the shutdown, dope.

That is a lie. Republicans can't orchestrate changing a toilet paper roll.

Liar.


During Barack Obama's presidency, the United States federal government shutdown of 2013ran from October 1 to 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act(Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[2] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[3] Standard & Poor's, the financial ratings agency, stated on October 16 that the shutdown had "to date has taken $24 billion out of the economy," and "shaved at least 0.6 percent off annualized fourth-quarter 2013 GDP growth.

Obama came up with billions to give Iran without Congress. It was his choice to shutdown the government.

What?

What’s hard for you to grasp? Obama came up with billions to give to terrorists without Congress.

Why do you believe that has anything to do with Republicans orchestrating a govt shutdown?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It was the Republicans who orchestrated the shutdown, dope.

That is a lie. Republicans can't orchestrate changing a toilet paper roll.

Liar.


During Barack Obama's presidency, the United States federal government shutdown of 2013ran from October 1 to 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act(Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[2] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[3] Standard & Poor's, the financial ratings agency, stated on October 16 that the shutdown had "to date has taken $24 billion out of the economy," and "shaved at least 0.6 percent off annualized fourth-quarter 2013 GDP growth.

Obama came up with billions to give Iran without Congress. It was his choice to shutdown the government.

What?

What’s hard for you to grasp? Obama came up with billions to give to terrorists without Congress.

What they hell does that have to do with the government shutting down? Why can you not stay on the topic of the thread?

 

[Weatherman2020]

That is a lie. Republicans can't orchestrate changing a toilet paper roll.

Liar.


During Barack Obama's presidency, the United States federal government shutdown of 2013ran from October 1 to 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act(Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[2] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[3] Standard & Poor's, the financial ratings agency, stated on October 16 that the shutdown had "to date has taken $24 billion out of the economy," and "shaved at least 0.6 percent off annualized fourth-quarter 2013 GDP growth.

Obama came up with billions to give Iran without Congress. It was his choice to shutdown the government.

What?

What’s hard for you to grasp? Obama came up with billions to give to terrorists without Congress.

What they hell does that have to do with the government shutting down? Why can you not stay on the topic of the thread?

Of course you can’t connect lack of funds shutting the government down with billions laying around unused waiting to be pissed away.

 

[deanrd]

"IF WE DON'T SOLVE THIS FUNDING ISSUE , THE GOVERNMENT WILL SHUT DOWN !!!"

....alright

...bye

Am i the only one who thinks it's GOOD the government shuts down?

While the country is suffering and trying to recover from three hurricanes and massive wildfires you want the government shut down? Are you a tard?

 

[Borillar]

The best thing about the government shutting down is it shows how much we really don't need it. If they want to shut it down, then shut it down. It doesn't change my life one bit. In fact, it could only make it better.

one of the main functions of the federal government is to organize for war....but we got twitter now

So let me ask everybody here. What would happen if we had a major shutdown that lasted for months, and nobody really knew the difference? Wouldn't that tell us something? Five or six months later, everybody is still doing fine.

Unless you're a government employee, or are in the military, or are receiving Social Security benefits, or are a consumer of government regulated goods or services, or are businesses contracting to the government, or any of dozens of other situations, yeah... what could possibly go wrong?

 

[Weatherman2020]

"IF WE DON'T SOLVE THIS FUNDING ISSUE , THE GOVERNMENT WILL SHUT DOWN !!!"

....alright

...bye

Am i the only one who thinks it's GOOD the government shuts down?

While the country is suffering and trying to recover from three hurricanes and massive wildfires you want the government shut down? Are you a tard?

Ya, those sidewalks being barricaded will crash the economy.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Liar.


During Barack Obama's presidency, the United States federal government shutdown of 2013ran from October 1 to 16, 2013. The primary issue of dispute between the Republican-controlled House of Representatives and the Democratic Senate was the Republicans' desire to delay or defund the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act(Obamacare), signed into law in 2010.[2] A bill to end the shutdown and fund federal agencies through January 15, 2014, passed the Senate and the House and was signed into law on October 17, 2013.[3] Standard & Poor's, the financial ratings agency, stated on October 16 that the shutdown had "to date has taken $24 billion out of the economy," and "shaved at least 0.6 percent off annualized fourth-quarter 2013 GDP growth.

Obama came up with billions to give Iran without Congress. It was his choice to shutdown the government.

What?

What’s hard for you to grasp? Obama came up with billions to give to terrorists without Congress.

What they hell does that have to do with the government shutting down? Why can you not stay on the topic of the thread?

Of course you can’t connect lack of funds shutting the government down with billions laying around unused waiting to be pissed away.

You are correct I cannot connect the unconnected. You have some very serious mental issues when it comes to Obama. You really should think about getting professional help before it is too late

 

[frigidweirdo]

That's rubbish. Of course it had an impact. It had an impact on my mother, it had an impact on me because I would have gone to stay with him had he been alive, I might have got to know him, he might have changed my view on things. You seriously can't have such a shallow mind, can you?

Maybe might have would have could have yada yada

The fact is none of that happened you yourself said you didn't know the man. and you can't say for certain any of those maybe might haves would have come to be.

The problem here is that there's a difference between what happened and what could have happened. You're saying that something didn't have an impact. You're saying that if something doesn't happen, it doesn't have an impact.

So, if a child doesn't have an education, it doesn't have an impact on their life because it's something that COULD HAVE HAPPENED.

Bullshit. You're just arguing for the hell of it

No you just are always convinced you are right.

If we take your example of a dead relative that you never met, might never meet as having some impact on your life then the death of each of the 7 billion people on the planet can be said to have an impact on your life and we know that is just not true.

Your education example fails because there is the assumption that a person cannot educate himself

Well, in this case I'd be right. You're so wrong it's painful.

That's funny.

It's also very sad that you have to "win" on the internet to feel good about yourself.

Tell me of the millions of people that died yesterday which 100000 impacted your life the most

You know what, I really can't be bothered with your nonsense any more. You're like the annoying kid who could start and argument in an empty room. Bye.

 

[Dschrute3]

The Government ain't gonna shut down. The Swamp Creatures will come to an 'agreement.' It always does. Both Parties love spending other peoples' money. They love the power. It is what it is.

they have a Job to do.

Yup, Swamp Creatures love the power too much to shut Government down. They absolutely love the power of spending other folks' money. And they're doing such a wonderful job. We're only $21 Trillion in Debt. We should definitely give them even more of our hard-earned money.

Government is of the people, by the people and for the people

It is our money and our debt

I know, what a fantastic 'investment.' They spend us $21 Trillion into Debt, and we're supposed to be all Gung-Ho about giving em more of our hard-earned money. Makes perfect sense, huh?

So don't worry, the Swamp Creatures will not be shutting Government down. They love the power too much. They'll come to another 'agreement' on screwing Citizens. Such is life in The Swamp.

 

[Kosh]

Despite popular beliefs, the government does not actually shut down..

 

[Skull Pilot]

Maybe might have would have could have yada yada

The fact is none of that happened you yourself said you didn't know the man. and you can't say for certain any of those maybe might haves would have come to be.

The problem here is that there's a difference between what happened and what could have happened. You're saying that something didn't have an impact. You're saying that if something doesn't happen, it doesn't have an impact.

So, if a child doesn't have an education, it doesn't have an impact on their life because it's something that COULD HAVE HAPPENED.

Bullshit. You're just arguing for the hell of it

No you just are always convinced you are right.

If we take your example of a dead relative that you never met, might never meet as having some impact on your life then the death of each of the 7 billion people on the planet can be said to have an impact on your life and we know that is just not true.

Your education example fails because there is the assumption that a person cannot educate himself

Well, in this case I'd be right. You're so wrong it's painful.

That's funny.

It's also very sad that you have to "win" on the internet to feel good about yourself.

Tell me of the millions of people that died yesterday which 100000 impacted your life the most

You know what, I really can't be bothered with your nonsense any more. You're like the annoying kid who could start and argument in an empty room. Bye.

And you run before you even support your arguments. That is when you're not making up shit you claim other people say

 

[rightwinger]

The Government ain't gonna shut down. The Swamp Creatures will come to an 'agreement.' It always does. Both Parties love spending other peoples' money. They love the power. It is what it is.

they have a Job to do.

Yup, Swamp Creatures love the power too much to shut Government down. They absolutely love the power of spending other folks' money. And they're doing such a wonderful job. We're only $21 Trillion in Debt. We should definitely give them even more of our hard-earned money.

Government is of the people, by the people and for the people

It is our money and our debt

I know, what a fantastic 'investment.' They spend us $21 Trillion into Debt, and we're supposed to be all Gung-Ho about giving em more of our hard-earned money. Makes perfect sense, huh?

So don't worry, the Swamp Creatures will not be shutting Government down. They love the power too much. They'll come to another 'agreement' on screwing Citizens. Such is life in The Swamp.

No other country in the world I would want to invest in
God Bless America

 

[rightwinger]

Despite popular beliefs, the government does not actually shut down..

Yes, they only turn the lights out and send people home

 

[Skull Pilot]

Despite popular beliefs, the government does not actually shut down..

Yes, they only turn the lights out and send people home

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

 

[rightwinger]

Despite popular beliefs, the government does not actually shut down..

Yes, they only turn the lights out and send people home

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

 

[Skull Pilot]

Despite popular beliefs, the government does not actually shut down..

Yes, they only turn the lights out and send people home

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Despite popular beliefs, the government does not actually shut down..

Yes, they only turn the lights out and send people home

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Quite frankly the management of all our national parks should be outsourced then they would never have to shut down

And if a government employee can be let go without loss of life or compromising safety, while avoiding security breaches and tremendous monetary losses then that employee is truly nonessential and should be let go

 

[rightwinger]

Despite popular beliefs, the government does not actually shut down..

Yes, they only turn the lights out and send people home

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Despite popular beliefs, the government does not actually shut down..

Yes, they only turn the lights out and send people home

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Quite frankly the management of all our national parks should be outsourced then they would never have to shut down

And if a government employee can be let go without loss of life or compromising safety, while avoiding security breaches and tremendous monetary losses then that employee is truly nonessential and should be let go

Most government employee functions take place over periods of weeks, months and years

I worked on projects that had a cycle of five or six years. Your job was to manage that project and meet key milestones. Those milestones were generally on a monthly or quarterly basis. Being sent home during a shutdown did not end a project, but key meetings, tests and documentation needed to meet the milestone were deferred or cancelled

 

[Skull Pilot]

Despite popular beliefs, the government does not actually shut down..

Yes, they only turn the lights out and send people home

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Despite popular beliefs, the government does not actually shut down..

Yes, they only turn the lights out and send people home

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Quite frankly the management of all our national parks should be outsourced then they would never have to shut down

And if a government employee can be let go without loss of life or compromising safety, while avoiding security breaches and tremendous monetary losses then that employee is truly nonessential and should be let go

Most government employee functions take place over periods of weeks, months and years

I worked on projects that had a cycle of five or six years. Your job was to manage that project and meet key milestones. Those milestones were generally on a monthly or quarterly basis. Being sent home during a shutdown did not end a project, but key meetings, tests and documentation needed to meet the milestone were deferred or cancelled

Funny how people in the private sector can do all that with far fewer employees and at far less cost.

Sorry but there is no way 100% of government employees perform essential duties as you define them

We could easily fire 20% of them and never know the difference

 

[rightwinger]

Yes, they only turn the lights out and send people home

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Yes, they only turn the lights out and send people home

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Quite frankly the management of all our national parks should be outsourced then they would never have to shut down

And if a government employee can be let go without loss of life or compromising safety, while avoiding security breaches and tremendous monetary losses then that employee is truly nonessential and should be let go

Most government employee functions take place over periods of weeks, months and years

I worked on projects that had a cycle of five or six years. Your job was to manage that project and meet key milestones. Those milestones were generally on a monthly or quarterly basis. Being sent home during a shutdown did not end a project, but key meetings, tests and documentation needed to meet the milestone were deferred or cancelled

Funny how people in the private sector can do all that with far fewer employees and at far less cost.

Sorry but there is no way 100% of government employees perform essential duties as you define them

We could easily fire 20% of them and never know the difference

You fail to understand the difference between the public sector and the private sector

The private sector represents profit for their shareholders. The public sector represents the interests of the American people.

Those government employees are there to ensure that contracts get written, work gets performed, product is delivered and contractual terms are met. They also represent the legal interests of the government and the people.

You can arbitrarily fire 20% but you will make yourself 20% more vulnerable

 

[Skull Pilot]

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Only some of them.

You know the nonessential ones.

Conservatives struggle with the concept of what "nonessential" means
To them, it means the job is not essential and can be eliminated

In practice it means jobs that do not directly lead to a loss of life, safety or security breaches, loss of tremendous money

An FBI agent, doctor in a VA clinic, security guard will be classified as essential
A Park Ranger will be classified as non-essential

But Conservatives still scream about the loss of the Park Ranger

Quite frankly the management of all our national parks should be outsourced then they would never have to shut down

And if a government employee can be let go without loss of life or compromising safety, while avoiding security breaches and tremendous monetary losses then that employee is truly nonessential and should be let go

Most government employee functions take place over periods of weeks, months and years

I worked on projects that had a cycle of five or six years. Your job was to manage that project and meet key milestones. Those milestones were generally on a monthly or quarterly basis. Being sent home during a shutdown did not end a project, but key meetings, tests and documentation needed to meet the milestone were deferred or cancelled

Funny how people in the private sector can do all that with far fewer employees and at far less cost.

Sorry but there is no way 100% of government employees perform essential duties as you define them

We could easily fire 20% of them and never know the difference

You fail to understand the difference between the public sector and the private sector

The private sector represents profit for their shareholders. The public sector represents the interests of the American people.

Those government employees are there to ensure that contracts get written, work gets performed, product is delivered and contractual terms are met. They also represent the legal interests of the government and the people.

You can arbitrarily fire 20% but you will make yourself 20% more vulnerable

It is in the interest of the tax payer to have a government that runs as efficiently as possible.

The work can be done with fewer people there is no doubt about that in anyone's mind except current and former government employees like yourself