Affordable Care Act: A Child's Garden Of Lies And Distortions

[Skull Pilot]

The only people who will make out in this clusterfuck of a bill are those that didn't have insurance to begin with.

The folks getting insurance will pay higher premiums to cover the cost of those without. If you buy your own insurance you will be paying up the ass for it.

This bill never addressed the real problem with HC, The cost.

Anyone who thinks this clusterfuck of a bill will make anything cheaper is a fool and has blinders on.

You dumb facktard, the system is broke and Americans have the highest costs for health care, yet you're ok with that. HC costs are projected to go down, get facking educated about the specifics of the bill. Facking imbecile

You fucking moron health insurance is not health care

 

[Decepticon]

Boy, if that's the case, perhaps you could post some pictures of other countries around the world, documenting their horrible wait times and conditions?

I'll wait while you don't.
How many countries are RUSHING toward our system?
NONE!

What does that tell you? That you're right and everyone else that is paying HALF AS MUCH as you and getting BETTER CARE is wrong?

Yeah. That makes sense.

BBC NEWS | Health | NHS waiting time 'underestimated'

Now why don't you STFU?

You DO know those are ALL ELECTIVE SURGERIES you cited in your article? Right?

Because you would look REALLY STUPID if you thought this was indicative of ALL surgeries, wouldn't you? You'd look like a real dumbass, huh?

They've decided that NO one will go without and it means that some will have to wait.
How civilized. But we can't have that HERE, can we? Oh, NO!


The US right has used the NHS as an example of the potential pitfalls facing President Barack Obama as he tries to push through a healthcare reform bill.

Some Republicans have ridiculed it as a bureaucratic and “Orwellian” system that often denies care to the elderly – with Sarah Palin, the former Republican presidential candidate, decrying it as “evil”.

But in Britain, where since 1948 all citizens have enjoyed free healthcare from birth to death, the attacks are widely seen as wrong and insulting.

Such is the strength of public support for the NHS in the UK, that the two main political parties have agreed to ring-fence its expenditure in the coming years – in spite of cuts to almost all other departmental budgets.

Mr Cameron, who leads the Conservative party, once headed by Margaret Thatcher, on Friday described the NHS as one of the UK’s “great national institutions” and said the service was his “number one priority”.
At Least Most Brits Like Their Government Run Health Care : NO QUARTER


Why don't you do a google search and how HAPPY the brits and Canadians are with their health care systems and quit getting your talking points from people who don't know what the hell they're talking about.

British like their healthcare, don't care what you think - Healthcare Reform - Salon.com
Canadian Health Care Problems | When it comes to healthcare, the U.S., Britain and Canada are hurting - Los Angeles Times


Hey asshat. I've spent a LOT of time in Great Britian and I can tell you a few things. No one loses their home because they get sick. I had a relative die there recently They worked on him for hours before he passed away. Know what the cost was to my visting AMERICAN family? NOTHING! Can you imagine if the same thing happened to a Brit over here? Now, how is our system better?

Number one reason for bankruptcy in the US?
Medical bills.
Study Links Medical Costs and Personal Bankruptcy - BusinessWeek
I guess you don't give a rats ass about your fellow Americans. Go bankrupt! Lose your home! Survival of the fittest, right?

They pay HALF as much for their medical bill and you don't go broke if you get sick.
Yeah. They have a terrible system.

Come back on this thread when you have a clue what you're talking about.

 

[Claudette]

The only people who will make out in this clusterfuck of a bill are those that didn't have insurance to begin with.

The folks getting insurance will pay higher premiums to cover the cost of those without. If you buy your own insurance you will be paying up the ass for it.

This bill never addressed the real problem with HC, The cost.

Anyone who thinks this clusterfuck of a bill will make anything cheaper is a fool and has blinders on.

You dumb facktard, the system is broke and Americans have the highest costs for health care, yet you're ok with that. HC costs are projected to go down, get facking educated about the specifics of the bill. Facking imbecile

Does the word Projected mean anything to you idiot??

Just because someone says costs will go down doesn't mean they will. Hell. I say I'm gonna win the lotto. Doesn't mean I will.

If you want to believe HC costs will go down then be my guest. Its been my experience that anytime the Govt sticks its big fat nose in anything it alway costs more than what some dimwit "projected" it would.

Talk about fucktards. You fit that one to a tee you idiot.

 

[editec]

The name Affordable Care Act is misleading.

Agreed.

Forcing people to buy health insurance will do nothing to make health care more affordable. In fact if everyone has to buy insurance then insurance companies have no need to compete and because they won't have to compete prices of insurance will most likely rise.

Perceptive observation.

In Assachussetts health insurance costs have risen 30% faster than the rest of the country so what makes any of you idiots think that the same thing won't happen with the misnamed Affordable Care Act?

Certainly no HC solution that doesn't drastically make our system become more efficient serves only to make the HC insurance companies still MORE MONEY.


Either entirely socialize it or entirely privatize it.

Both approaches come with their own poison pills of course, but it is my opinion that entirely socializing it would be a significantly less toxic pill to swallow than entirely privatizing it.

 

[Flaylo]

The only people who will make out in this clusterfuck of a bill are those that didn't have insurance to begin with.

The folks getting insurance will pay higher premiums to cover the cost of those without. If you buy your own insurance you will be paying up the ass for it.

This bill never addressed the real problem with HC, The cost.

Anyone who thinks this clusterfuck of a bill will make anything cheaper is a fool and has blinders on.

You dumb facktard, the system is broke and Americans have the highest costs for health care, yet you're ok with that. HC costs are projected to go down, get facking educated about the specifics of the bill. Facking imbecile

And Americans also have the highest income.
They also have an average of more cars than anyonbe else.
And more TV's.
And more iPads
And more cell phones.

Cant have all of the wants without your needs being more expensive.

Thats why here in Germany I pay far less less for certain medical prodecures than in the states and Germans make great money here too, give it a fucking rest. Our healthcare is sky high because we don't have a single payer system.

 

[Greenbeard]

The name Affordable Care Act is misleading.

Forcing people to buy health insurance will do nothing to make health care more affordable. In fact if everyone has to buy insurance then insurance companies have no need to compete and because they won't have to compete prices of insurance will most likely rise.

The "affordable" part refers to limiting what an individual or family in an exchange must spend on premiums to a certain percentage of their income. Above that percentage, the refundable tax credit kicks in to pay the rest up to the cost of the second cheapest silver (i.e. 70% actuarial value) insurance plan in their market.

That's a competitive bidding system (since borrowed by Paul Ryan for inclusion in his super-duper-privatize-Medicare-using-exchanges plan). Insurers are generally only going to gain access to tens of millions of new customers and billions in subsidies if they're selling the cheapest plans in their market. Given that out-of-state plans are now going to be entering state markets, and non-profit cooperative health plans are being seeded around the country, that means you've got new, strong competitive pressures to offer lower premiums. Meanwhile, plans in the exchange will be rated on standardized quality and price and other metrics, their benefits and features will be described succinctly and in plain English, and will be easily compared side-by-side in an interactive, user-friendly interface.

Aside from the competitive pressures in the exchange, medical loss ratio rules limit the percentage of premium revenue that can go to things other than patient care. That makes it much more difficult to raise premiums just because you feel like it.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The name Affordable Care Act is misleading.

Agreed.

Forcing people to buy health insurance will do nothing to make health care more affordable. In fact if everyone has to buy insurance then insurance companies have no need to compete and because they won't have to compete prices of insurance will most likely rise.

Perceptive observation.

In Assachussetts health insurance costs have risen 30% faster than the rest of the country so what makes any of you idiots think that the same thing won't happen with the misnamed Affordable Care Act?

Certainly no HC solution that doesn't drastically make our system become more efficient serves only to make the HC insurance companies still MORE MONEY.


Either entirely socialize it or entirely privatize it.

Both approaches come with their own poison pills of course, but it is my opinion that entirely socializing it would be a significantly less toxic pill to swallow than entirely privatizing it.

I'd like to at least try to let market forces work for health care services.

If we knew what things cost we could shop around and by using the most cost effective providers even if we used insurance to pay I would think premiums would go down as market forces drove the cost of the actual health care services down

 

[Skull Pilot]

The name Affordable Care Act is misleading.

Forcing people to buy health insurance will do nothing to make health care more affordable. In fact if everyone has to buy insurance then insurance companies have no need to compete and because they won't have to compete prices of insurance will most likely rise.

The "affordable" part refers to limiting what an individual or family in an exchange must spend on premiums to a certain percentage of their income. Above that percentage, the refundable tax credit kicks in to pay the rest up to the cost of the second cheapest silver (i.e. 70% actuarial value) insurance plan in their market.

That's a competitive bidding system (since borrowed by Paul Ryan for inclusion in his super-duper-privatize-Medicare-using-exchanges plan). Insurers are generally only going to gain access to tens of millions of new customers and billions in subsidies if they're selling the cheapest plans in their market. Given that out-of-state plans are now going to be entering state markets, and non-profit cooperative health plans are being seeded around the country, that means you've got new, strong competitive pressures to offer lower premiums. Meanwhile, plans in the exchange will be rated on standardized quality and price and other metrics, their benefits and features will be described succinctly and in plain English, and will be easily compared side-by-side in an interactive, user-friendly interface.

Aside from the competitive pressures in the exchange, medical loss ratio rules limit the percentage of premium revenue that can go to things other than patient care. That makes it much more difficult to raise premiums just because you feel like it.

Health care and health insurance are not the same thing.

 

[Flaylo]

The only people who will make out in this clusterfuck of a bill are those that didn't have insurance to begin with.

The folks getting insurance will pay higher premiums to cover the cost of those without. If you buy your own insurance you will be paying up the ass for it.

This bill never addressed the real problem with HC, The cost.

Anyone who thinks this clusterfuck of a bill will make anything cheaper is a fool and has blinders on.

You dumb facktard, the system is broke and Americans have the highest costs for health care, yet you're ok with that. HC costs are projected to go down, get facking educated about the specifics of the bill. Facking imbecile

Does the word Projected mean anything to you idiot??

Just because someone says costs will go down doesn't mean they will. Hell. I say I'm gonna win the lotto. Doesn't mean I will.

If you want to believe HC costs will go down then be my guest. Its been my experience that anytime the Govt sticks its big fat nose in anything it alway costs more than what some dimwit "projected" it would.

Talk about fucktards. You fit that one to a tee you idiot.

Health care costs will only be lowered if we have single payer system which Repugs rejected as socialism, Obama's plan will keep costs from skyrocketing at a rapid rate.

 

[Jarhead]

You dumb facktard, the system is broke and Americans have the highest costs for health care, yet you're ok with that. HC costs are projected to go down, get facking educated about the specifics of the bill. Facking imbecile

Does the word Projected mean anything to you idiot??

Just because someone says costs will go down doesn't mean they will. Hell. I say I'm gonna win the lotto. Doesn't mean I will.

If you want to believe HC costs will go down then be my guest. Its been my experience that anytime the Govt sticks its big fat nose in anything it alway costs more than what some dimwit "projected" it would.

Talk about fucktards. You fit that one to a tee you idiot.

Health care costs will only be lowered if we have single payer system which Repugs rejected as socialism, Obama's plan will keep costs from skyrocketing at a rapid rate.

you went from saying "healthcare costs are projected to go down" to "Obamas plan will keep costs from skyrocketing at a rapid rate"

]Seems you only know what different talking heads say....and not much more than that.

Why dont you educate yourself properly. Know what is happening and why. You wont come across as so...well....confused.

 

[Flaylo]

The only people who will make out in this clusterfuck of a bill are those that didn't have insurance to begin with.

The folks getting insurance will pay higher premiums to cover the cost of those without. If you buy your own insurance you will be paying up the ass for it.

This bill never addressed the real problem with HC, The cost.

Anyone who thinks this clusterfuck of a bill will make anything cheaper is a fool and has blinders on.

You dumb facktard, the system is broke and Americans have the highest costs for health care, yet you're ok with that. HC costs are projected to go down, get facking educated about the specifics of the bill. Facking imbecile

as usual, you are the dumb fucktard...

Medicare Actuary: Obamacare Will Triple the Growth Rate of Net Insurance Costs - Forbes
Medicare Actuary: Obamacare Will Triple the Growth Rate of Net Insurance Costs

Well, the Office of the Actuary in the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services recently put out its annual projections of national health care spending. And, contrary to the President, the actuaries find that Obamacare will dramatically increase the near-term growth rate of health care costs. In 2014, the actuaries find that growth in the net cost of health insurance will increase by nearly 14 percent, compared to 3.5% if PPACA had never passed. The growth rate of private insurance costs will rise to 9.4 percent, from 5.0 percent under prior law: an 88% increase.

The facking imbecile is you

Fact check: Will insurance rates fall? - David Nather - POLITICO.com

 

[Jarhead]

The name Affordable Care Act is misleading.

Forcing people to buy health insurance will do nothing to make health care more affordable. In fact if everyone has to buy insurance then insurance companies have no need to compete and because they won't have to compete prices of insurance will most likely rise.

The "affordable" part refers to limiting what an individual or family in an exchange must spend on premiums to a certain percentage of their income. Above that percentage, the refundable tax credit kicks in to pay the rest up to the cost of the second cheapest silver (i.e. 70% actuarial value) insurance plan in their market.

That's a competitive bidding system (since borrowed by Paul Ryan for inclusion in his super-duper-privatize-Medicare-using-exchanges plan). Insurers are generally only going to gain access to tens of millions of new customers and billions in subsidies if they're selling the cheapest plans in their market. Given that out-of-state plans are now going to be entering state markets, and non-profit cooperative health plans are being seeded around the country, that means you've got new, strong competitive pressures to offer lower premiums. Meanwhile, plans in the exchange will be rated on standardized quality and price and other metrics, their benefits and features will be described succinctly and in plain English, and will be easily compared side-by-side in an interactive, user-friendly interface.

Aside from the competitive pressures in the exchange, medical loss ratio rules limit the percentage of premium revenue that can go to things other than patient care. That makes it much more difficult to raise premiums just because you feel like it.

Health care and health insurance are not the same thing.

Thats half the problem.

They used to be two different things. Healthcare costs referred to your cost to maintian your health using medical professionals and insuracne was strictly for catastrophic, out of the oridnary ,medical needs....thus the term "INSURANCE"

But the people wanted more. They no longer wanted to pay 600 a year for family doctor visits....so they puashed the insurance companies to cover those as well.

And the result?

To save your $600 a year in doctor annual visits, you have to pay a family insurance premium of 18K

 

[Full-Auto]

The only people who will make out in this clusterfuck of a bill are those that didn't have insurance to begin with.

The folks getting insurance will pay higher premiums to cover the cost of those without. If you buy your own insurance you will be paying up the ass for it.

This bill never addressed the real problem with HC, The cost.

Anyone who thinks this clusterfuck of a bill will make anything cheaper is a fool and has blinders on.

You dumb facktard, the system is broke and Americans have the highest costs for health care, yet you're ok with that. HC costs are projected to go down, get facking educated about the specifics of the bill. Facking imbecile

What? go down ten percent after rising a hundred percent.

You obviously have no grasp of mathematical concepts. The fact remain you douche bags and its cheer leaders have been lying to us continuously, and now you are just pissed the CBO outed your lying asses.

 

[Greenbeard]

The name Affordable Care Act is misleading.

Forcing people to buy health insurance will do nothing to make health care more affordable. In fact if everyone has to buy insurance then insurance companies have no need to compete and because they won't have to compete prices of insurance will most likely rise.

The "affordable" part refers to limiting what an individual or family in an exchange must spend on premiums to a certain percentage of their income. Above that percentage, the refundable tax credit kicks in to pay the rest up to the cost of the second cheapest silver (i.e. 70% actuarial value) insurance plan in their market.

That's a competitive bidding system (since borrowed by Paul Ryan for inclusion in his super-duper-privatize-Medicare-using-exchanges plan). Insurers are generally only going to gain access to tens of millions of new customers and billions in subsidies if they're selling the cheapest plans in their market. Given that out-of-state plans are now going to be entering state markets, and non-profit cooperative health plans are being seeded around the country, that means you've got new, strong competitive pressures to offer lower premiums. Meanwhile, plans in the exchange will be rated on standardized quality and price and other metrics, their benefits and features will be described succinctly and in plain English, and will be easily compared side-by-side in an interactive, user-friendly interface.

Aside from the competitive pressures in the exchange, medical loss ratio rules limit the percentage of premium revenue that can go to things other than patient care. That makes it much more difficult to raise premiums just because you feel like it.

Health care and health insurance are not the same thing.

Neat. I was responding to your bullshit argument that insurers somehow have no need to compete under a competitive bidding system. But apparently you brought up insurance because you didn't want to talk about it.

The ACA's approach to controlling the costs of care is to focus in improving the value (i.e. quality achieved per unit cost) proposition of care. That means improving the way care is delivered and improving the incentives implicit in the way we pay for it. That's primarily being done through many of the Medicare and Medicaid reforms, such as:

• Value-based purchasing in Medicare.
• Building on quality measure advancement begun for children two years ago under CHIPRA by extending it to adults and expanding public reporting on quality.
• Incentives for accountable care.
• Upping AHRQ's in health care delivery system research and building technical assistance capacity to assist providers in implementing delivery system innovations.
• Launching one of the largest patient safety initiatives in recent memory, aimed at curbing unnecessary expenditures due to preventable errors and hospital-acquired conditions, is not a price control.
• Supporting community-based prevention efforts, particularly those aimed at chronic illness (one of the big cost drivers in our system).
• Offering financial incentives for Medicare and Medicaid providers who adopt electronic health records with clinical support tools and quality measurement capabilities.
• Seeding models of advanced primary care aimed specifically at high-utilization, high-cost beneficiaries.
• Payment reforms to discourage unnecessary spending.
• Improving care coordination, particularly for those needing the most complex and expensive care regimes (and thus likely to benefit the most from it).
• Transitioning enrollees from institution-based long-term care to community-based care where possible.
• Learning which treatments are the most effective and using that knowledge.
• Creating a body dedicated to testing payment and delivery system innovations to determine which ones improve quality an reduce costs, and a mechanism for using that knowledge.

Businessweek has a good article this week examining how this changing approach is already seeping into the private sector and transforming American health care: Obamacare Has Already Transformed U.S. Health Care - Businessweek

 

[Conservative]

Does the word Projected mean anything to you idiot??

Just because someone says costs will go down doesn't mean they will. Hell. I say I'm gonna win the lotto. Doesn't mean I will.

If you want to believe HC costs will go down then be my guest. Its been my experience that anytime the Govt sticks its big fat nose in anything it alway costs more than what some dimwit "projected" it would.

Talk about fucktards. You fit that one to a tee you idiot.

Health care costs will only be lowered if we have single payer system which Repugs rejected as socialism, Obama's plan will keep costs from skyrocketing at a rapid rate.

you went from saying "healthcare costs are projected to go down" to "Obamas plan will keep costs from skyrocketing at a rapid rate"

]Seems you only know what different talking heads say....and not much more than that.

Why dont you educate yourself properly. Know what is happening and why. You wont come across as so...well....confused.

you're only going to confuse him more you know.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The "affordable" part refers to limiting what an individual or family in an exchange must spend on premiums to a certain percentage of their income. Above that percentage, the refundable tax credit kicks in to pay the rest up to the cost of the second cheapest silver (i.e. 70% actuarial value) insurance plan in their market.

That's a competitive bidding system (since borrowed by Paul Ryan for inclusion in his super-duper-privatize-Medicare-using-exchanges plan). Insurers are generally only going to gain access to tens of millions of new customers and billions in subsidies if they're selling the cheapest plans in their market. Given that out-of-state plans are now going to be entering state markets, and non-profit cooperative health plans are being seeded around the country, that means you've got new, strong competitive pressures to offer lower premiums. Meanwhile, plans in the exchange will be rated on standardized quality and price and other metrics, their benefits and features will be described succinctly and in plain English, and will be easily compared side-by-side in an interactive, user-friendly interface.

Aside from the competitive pressures in the exchange, medical loss ratio rules limit the percentage of premium revenue that can go to things other than patient care. That makes it much more difficult to raise premiums just because you feel like it.

Health care and health insurance are not the same thing.

Neat. I was responding to your bullshit argument that insurers somehow have no need to compete under a competitive bidding system. But apparently you brought up insurance because you didn't want to talk about it.

The ACA's approach to controlling the costs of care is to focus in improving the value (i.e. quality achieved per unit cost) proposition of care. That means improving the way care is delivered and improving the incentives implicit in the way we pay for it. That's primarily being done through many of the Medicare and Medicaid reforms, such as:

• Value-based purchasing in Medicare.
• Building on quality measure advancement begun for children two years ago under CHIPRA by extending it to adults and expanding public reporting on quality.
• Incentives for accountable care.
• Upping AHRQ's in health care delivery system research and building technical assistance capacity to assist providers in implementing delivery system innovations.
• Launching one of the largest patient safety initiatives in recent memory, aimed at curbing unnecessary expenditures due to preventable errors and hospital-acquired conditions, is not a price control.
• Supporting community-based prevention efforts, particularly those aimed at chronic illness (one of the big cost drivers in our system).
• Offering financial incentives for Medicare and Medicaid providers who adopt electronic health records with clinical support tools and quality measurement capabilities.
• Seeding models of advanced primary care aimed specifically at high-utilization, high-cost beneficiaries.
• Payment reforms to discourage unnecessary spending.
• Improving care coordination, particularly for those needing the most complex and expensive care regimes (and thus likely to benefit the most from it).
• Transitioning enrollees from institution-based long-term care to community-based care where possible.
• Learning which treatments are the most effective and using that knowledge.
• Creating a body dedicated to testing payment and delivery system innovations to determine which ones improve quality an reduce costs, and a mechanism for using that knowledge.

Businessweek has a good article this week examining how this changing approach is already seeping into the private sector and transforming American health care: Obamacare Has Already Transformed U.S. Health Care - Businessweek

The whole competitive bidding shit is a lie. When insurance has customers that are all forced to pay there is no competition and the rates will all end up virtually identical.

As I said health insurance premiums have risen in Assachusetts 30% faster than the rest of the country because everyone is forced to buy. What makes you think the same thing won't happen everywhere else?

When Assacusetts limited car insurance to only in state companies rates were sky high because they didn't have to compete. They had a captive market. The day out of state auto insurance companies were allowed in premiums dropped immediately.

Forcing people to buy health insurance from only in state providers will result in the same uniformity of high premiums.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Affordable Care Act: A Child's Garden Of Lies And Distortions

Frum was correct. The Obama administration was more than willing to deal. The more liberal imaginings of universal health care -- in the form of single-payer, or a National Health-style system -- were dealt off the table from jump. The White House wanted all parties to add on, have input, play a part in shaping the policy. So much so that the president eventually embraced a concept with a Heritage Foundation pedigree. If anything, it should have been the Democrats spitting hot fire on the proceedings.

But the Republicans weren't willing to do much in the way of deal-making and negotiating. What they were willing to do, was develop any number of wonderful, ornate lies about a health care reform plan that was cooked up in their own laboratories and celebrated as a Republican accomplishment only a short time ago, during the 2008 primary season. At least, in this effort, they truly excelled. But as Frum noted, in this column that preceded his own banishment for apostasy, it was a missed opportunity to craft a policy with that stamp of "bipartisanship," that everyone says is important.

The lies still continue, mainly that this is socialism, it doesn't matter that the plan helps more people rather than hurts people.

Absolutely!!!!!

Problem #1 (with)....​

Affordable Health Care​

Barack Obama SUPPORTS IT!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w894xqReOdo]Rachel Maddow Exposes Republican Hypocrisy For What It Is......BS.flv - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

The name Affordable Care Act is misleading.

Forcing people to buy health insurance will do nothing to make health care more affordable. In fact if everyone has to buy insurance then insurance companies have no need to compete and because they won't have to compete prices of insurance will most likely rise.

In Assachussetts health insurance costs have risen 30% faster than the rest of the country so what makes any of you idiots think that the same thing won't happen with the misnamed Affordable Care Act?

 

[Mr. Shaman]

In fact if everyone has to buy insurance then insurance companies have no need to compete and because they won't have to compete prices of insurance will most likely rise.

You mean.....as-opposed-to.....ALWAYS RISING.....

...SINCE 2000??!!!!

Stupid Fuckin' Teabaggers​

 

[Conservative]

You dumb facktard, the system is broke and Americans have the highest costs for health care, yet you're ok with that. HC costs are projected to go down, get facking educated about the specifics of the bill. Facking imbecile

as usual, you are the dumb fucktard...

Medicare Actuary: Obamacare Will Triple the Growth Rate of Net Insurance Costs - Forbes
Medicare Actuary: Obamacare Will Triple the Growth Rate of Net Insurance Costs

Well, the Office of the Actuary in the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services recently put out its annual projections of national health care spending. And, contrary to the President, the actuaries find that Obamacare will dramatically increase the near-term growth rate of health care costs. In 2014, the actuaries find that growth in the net cost of health insurance will increase by nearly 14 percent, compared to 3.5% if PPACA had never passed. The growth rate of private insurance costs will rise to 9.4 percent, from 5.0 percent under prior law: an 88% increase.

The facking imbecile is you

Fact check: Will insurance rates fall? - David Nather - POLITICO.com

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