Abandon Ship

[Flanders]

I’d like to see John Boehner go, while I realize it matters not one whit if he remains as Speaker of the House:

American Majority Action spokesman Ron Meyer told Breitbart News late Tuesday that enough House Republicans have banded together in an effort to unseat House Speaker John Boehner from his position--they just need a leader to take up the mantle.

Sources: Enough Republicans Willing to Unseat Speaker Boehner
by Matthew Boyle1 Jan 2013

Sources: Enough Republicans Willing to Unseat Speaker Boehner

It’s about more than speakers. Thomas Sowell is talking about presidential candidates —— not speakers —— nevertheless, he nails it pretty good:

To me, the Republican establishment is the 8th wonder of the world. How they can keep repeating the same mistakes for decades on end is beyond my ability to explain.

Happy New Year?
By Thomas Sowell on 1.2.13 @ 6:06AM

The American Spectator : Happy New Year?

I’ll go Sowell one better and say conservative voters are the 9th wonder of the world. How can they keep voting for establishment Republicans in light of the way Democrats cream them every time. Either top Republicans are in the tank, or they are just too stupid to learn.

I’ve been saying conservatives had better start forming a Third Party right now; a party that concentrates on winning enough seats in the House and Senate in 2014 and 2016 to shutdown the Democrat/Republican shell game before wasting resources on a presidential candidate’s campaign.

As soon as the House rolled over for the massive “fiscal cliff” tax increase it became imperative for conservative voters to abandon the Republican party. Does the SS Republican have to slip beneath the waves before abandoning ship? If you know anything about shipwrecks you know that the Republican party is listing so badly the lifeboats can’t be launched:

If you are a conservative think of it this way. You’re abandoning the leaders in both political parties.

 

[rightwinger]

Hell YES

Come on Conservatives....Start a NEW PARTY

Whats the matter? Chicken?

 

[007]

Hell YES

Come on Conservatives....Start a NEW PARTY

Whats the matter? Chicken?

What grade are you in again... 3rd?

 

[Mad Scientist]

He'd just get replaced with Boner II.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Hell YES

Come on Conservatives....Start a NEW PARTY

Whats the matter? Chicken?

What grade are you in again... 3rd?

I think he and TM start their days with a snort of Taaka vodka.

 

[007]

I left the republican party and registered independent back when they threw that old RINO fuck McLame and the moose shooter from Alaska at us as the best we had. No thanks.

I think what's going on is going to drive even more people from the party, so if republicans have any hopes what so ever of saving their party, they better get their shit together and fast, or it'll be decades or maybe never before they ever see another majority.

In the meantime the kenyan and the united socialist democrat party WILL ruin the country.

 

[rightwinger]

Hell YES

Come on Conservatives....Start a NEW PARTY

Whats the matter? Chicken?

What grade are you in again... 3rd?

 

[007]

Hell YES

Come on Conservatives....Start a NEW PARTY

Whats the matter? Chicken?

What grade are you in again... 3rd?

3rd... thanks.

 

[Ernie S.]

I left the republican party and registered independent back when they threw that old RINO fuck McLame and the moose shooter from Alaska at us as the best we had. No thanks.

I think what's going on is going to drive even more people from the party, so if republicans have any hopes what so ever of saving their party, they better get their shit together and fast, or it'll be decades or maybe never before they ever see another majority.

In the meantime the kenyan and the united socialist democrat party WILL ruin the country.

The problem is the GOP, when there is no clear choice like Reagan, goes for an old guard Republican saying it's "his turn"

Bob Dole John McCain, Mitt Romney; all as exciting as watching grass grow.

A candidate must first actually stand for something. (besides caving in to Liberals) Secondly, he must excite and motivate people.
Last, sadly, he should be attractive. Those of us who spend our free time studying and discussing politics are, for the most part beyond such shallowness, but 70% of voters could not name 2 Supreme Court Justices or the Speaker of the House, or even their own US Representative.

Marco Rubio will be a slam dunk in 2016.

 

[Flanders]

Marco Rubio will be a slam dunk in 2016.

To Ernie S: Rubio is far from a slam dunk. He has a constitutional eligibility problem. A vote for Rubio (or Jindal) is the same as saying Hussein was eligible. Notice that neither Rubio or Jindal ever stated their views on the Eligibility Clause in the Constitution.

Rubio is a senator. Enough said on that score.

The media loves him. That, in itself, disqualifies him for me.

More importantly, Rubio has never stated his position on US membership in the UN; global government, or on America’s absolute sovereignty.

Bottom line: I can’t see how he is any different than a global government quisling selling the crap that it is America’s duty to save the world. Move the cursor to 10 minutes and listen very carefully to the things he says in his first floor speech:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0iNk_J3kxAY]Senator Marco Rubio's Maiden Floor Speech - YouTube[/ame]​

I’d like to hear Rubio say America’s independence is the only way the world will change for the better. Sovereignty that inspires imitation —— not sovereignty guarantied by an International organization because the things our federal government did to freedoms in this country is the framework the New World Order crowd is building on. Rubio says things that makes me believe he is one of them.

 

[auditor0007]

I left the republican party and registered independent back when they threw that old RINO fuck McLame and the moose shooter from Alaska at us as the best we had. No thanks.

I think what's going on is going to drive even more people from the party, so if republicans have any hopes what so ever of saving their party, they better get their shit together and fast, or it'll be decades or maybe never before they ever see another majority.

In the meantime the kenyan and the united socialist democrat party WILL ruin the country.

The problem is the GOP, when there is no clear choice like Reagan, goes for an old guard Republican saying it's "his turn"

Bob Dole John McCain, Mitt Romney; all as exciting as watching grass grow.

A candidate must first actually stand for something. (besides caving in to Liberals) Secondly, he must excite and motivate people.
Last, sadly, he should be attractive. Those of us who spend our free time studying and discussing politics are, for the most part beyond such shallowness, but 70% of voters could not name 2 Supreme Court Justices or the Speaker of the House, or even their own US Representative.

Marco Rubio will be a slam dunk in 2016.

He might win the Republican nomination, maybe. But he will have a real tough time winning the general election. You guys are just completely on the wrong path believing the only reason you are losing is because you aren't conservative enough. Running more Todd Akins and Richard Murdocks isn't going to win you crap. Now granted, Rubio isn't nearly as dumb as those two idiots, but he will still have a tough time. America is just not as conservative as you think. The majority doesn't hate government like the far right; they just want to see effective government.

 

[Flopper]

When the Speaker of House is no longer able to bring his party to consensus on any legislation, he probably needs to go. However, I don't know of any Republican that can bring that bunch to agree on much of anything.

 

[Flanders]

It looks like some conservatives are at least strapping on their life jackets:

Voters with tea party leanings ruled congressional elections in 2010, handing the GOP a strong majority in the U.S. House on the basis of opposition to Barack Obama’s “let’s-make-big-government-bigger” plans.

The tea party then mostly blended into the Republican Party, with its agenda maintained by only a few prominent candidates in 2012. While the U.S. House makeup changed little, the GOP also made virtually no gains across the electoral spectrum.

So at least one group, TheTeaParty.net, has decided it’s time to move on the offense again, just as in 2010.

Today it announced it has created a new advocacy arm – the first of its kind – with a new team that will be headed up by longtime conservative voice J.D. Hayworth.

Tea party stepping up D.C. presence
Conservative movement gains through new advocacy team on Capitol Hill
Published: 12 hours ago
by BOB UNRUH

Tea party stepping up D.C. presence

 

[Papawx3]

I’d like to see John Boehner go, while I realize it matters not one whit if he remains as Speaker of the House: ......
.....I’ll go Sowell one better and say conservative voters are the 9th wonder of the world. How can they keep voting for establishment Republicans in light of the way Democrats cream them every time. Either top Republicans are in the tank, or they are just too stupid to learn......
.....If you are a conservative think of it this way. You’re abandoning the leaders in both political parties.

I couldn't agree more. The national election cycle has become a joke. It's glaringly obvious to me that whomever becomes the Republican nominee for POTUS has been hand-picked by both the Reps AND Dems (see McCain, Romney, etc). They put up there whomever they know has no chance of winning.
Members of both parties see themselves as the "ruling class" and we are the "working class". They look at us as their giant piggy bank - nothing more, nothing less.
I think the only thing keeping them in power is those who keep voting them into office, for no other reason than to make sure they can keep their own welfare checks coming.

 

[Flanders]

I couldn't agree more. The national election cycle has become a joke. It's glaringly obvious to me that whomever becomes the Republican nominee for POTUS has been hand-picked by both the Reps AND Dems (see McCain, Romney, etc). They put up there whomever they know has no chance of winning.

To Papawx3:

In America the President reigns for four years, and Journalism governs forever and ever. Oscar Wilde

I used to think the media worked to nominate the easiest Republican to beat. Not long ago it occurred to me that the media picks the Republican who is an acceptable substitute for the Democrat. The media hated RR and he got the nomination and two terms. He was the exception that proved Wilde’s rule.

 

[Katzndogz]

Once the nation became majority takers and successful people became the enemy the democrats have a permanent majority or at least permanent until the public changes its mind and realizes socialism doesn't work. Republicans who imagine that they can become socialists too and advance the democrat agenda they lose their more principled base. They are really creamed before they get started. The only thing moderate republicans can do is abandon the base and make the democrat party ONE party with two different names. They might split the democrat vote but republicans won't vote for them. Which is an assured loss. Republicans don't need a new platform that echos and mirrors the democrat platform, they need a new tactic because the old one has failed.

 

[Papawx3]

I used to think the media worked to nominate the easiest Republican to beat. Not long ago it occurred to me that the media picks the Republican who is an acceptable substitute for the Democrat. The media hated RR and he got the nomination and two terms. He was the exception that proved Wilde’s rule.

Consider though that all these self-righteous members of the media (and I mean everyone from ABC, CBS, MSNBC AND FOX NEWS) all want to be part of the "ruling class". It's all a big game for them and those who argue incessantly with each other on the air are all buddy-buddy and chummy-chummy off the air. Who do you think they socialize with on when they're not on the air?
Their supposed political affiliations mean absolutely nothing. Even though they are supposedly on different sides openly and politically, they're all socializing and lovey-dovey with each other when they aren't looking and talking into the cameras.
Who do you think they aspire to be like, around and with? The politicians.
They're playing a game with us, and we're the suckers they're laughing at.

 

[WillowTree]

I left the republican party and registered independent back when they threw that old RINO fuck McLame and the moose shooter from Alaska at us as the best we had. No thanks.

I think what's going on is going to drive even more people from the party, so if republicans have any hopes what so ever of saving their party, they better get their shit together and fast, or it'll be decades or maybe never before they ever see another majority.

In the meantime the kenyan and the united socialist democrat party WILL ruin the country.

Hey! I'm betting if we had elected McCain and Palin the country wouldn't be so fucked up now and so in debt. That's just my guess.

 

[Papawx3]

I left the republican party and registered independent back when they threw that old RINO fuck McLame and the moose shooter from Alaska at us as the best we had. No thanks.

I think what's going on is going to drive even more people from the party, so if republicans have any hopes what so ever of saving their party, they better get their shit together and fast, or it'll be decades or maybe never before they ever see another majority.

In the meantime the kenyan and the united socialist democrat party WILL ruin the country.

Hey! I'm betting if we had elected McCain and Palin the country wouldn't be so fucked up now and so in debt. That's just my guess.

Only if McCain had committed suicide right after his inauguration. McCain was on the ballot only because he was the easiest to beat at the general election.
I'm not saying that Palin would have been a great POTUS, but she would have been a hell of a lot better than the coward and traitor that is John McCain.