TyroneSlothrop
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How are you able to reconcile the legitimacy of elective abortion with the conception and birth of Jesus? Should Mary have had the right to terminate her pregnancy? How about Elizabeth, within whom John the Baptist stirred when she met Mary? Would terminating that pregnancy also have been all right with you?
I would appreciate an explanation of this seeming contradiction of viewpoints.
They are not contradictory.How are you able to reconcile the legitimacy of elective abortion with the conception and birth of Jesus? Should Mary have had the right to terminate her pregnancy? How about Elizabeth, within whom John the Baptist stirred when she met Mary? Would terminating that pregnancy also have been all right with you?
I would appreciate an explanation of this seeming contradiction of viewpoints.
Lets see those scriptures,show where Jesus said abortion is ok,I'll give ya a hint so you start in the right place,don't use the OTHow are you able to reconcile the legitimacy of elective abortion with the conception and birth of Jesus? Should Mary have had the right to terminate her pregnancy? How about Elizabeth, within whom John the Baptist stirred when she met Mary? Would terminating that pregnancy also have been all right with you?
I would appreciate an explanation of this seeming contradiction of viewpoints.
If Joseph had not accepted her, she would have been stoned to death, as would the baby.
Abortion is permitted in the bible as is birth control. Christianity is pro-choice, but to often it is the clergy that translate the bible instead of actually understanding the stories. Gays exist in the bible as well, both men and women.
Jesus was against pharisees, those that live only by the letter and not the spirit of the text. He was about love and forgiveness, not judgment, exclusion and hate.
Why do so many christian not know their own bible?
Too much Paul and not enough Jesus in their thinking. If they want to be Paulinites, then let they say that. If they want to be followers of Jesus, then let them decide that and accept the idea of loving all people, as they are.
The Pope is visiting now and he has said to forgive abortions. We all wish that children brought into the world should be loved and cared for. Sometimes fate, age, rape and health make caring for a child the wrong time. We have the right to choose. To choose and still be loved and accepted.
Jesus loved those who otherwise would be rejected by society, why can't christians follow in his foot steps? Why do so many choose to reject others?
What!!?? ,good greef,talk to your Congress critter,the lengths you people will go to justify killing.If a fetus is already a person how come a pregnant woman cannot get a tax deduction for a child while being pregnant...why does she have to wait until birth....
No social security number.If a fetus is already a person how come a pregnant woman cannot get a tax deduction for a child while being pregnant...why does she have to wait until birth....
I suppose you prefer "parasite".....as when liberal women invite their friends to a Parasite Shower......."Unborn children" what a joker phrase LOL
No one is going to out kill our Pentagon...we are number one in killing folks-in the third world[
the Netflix of baby killing will put the Blockbuster of baby killing out of business?.......
you're late Delta....we've already made fun of the people stupid enough to fall for this cut and paste......How are you able to reconcile the legitimacy of elective abortion with the conception and birth of Jesus? Should Mary have had the right to terminate her pregnancy? How about Elizabeth, within whom John the Baptist stirred when she met Mary? Would terminating that pregnancy also have been all right with you?
I would appreciate an explanation of this seeming contradiction of viewpoints.
Bible isn't against abortion. Nor infanticide or child-murder.
God's Not Pro-Life
"Abortion:
Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.” Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?
Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.
Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.” In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.
Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.
2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?"
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The problem is the homo's don't stay in their personal space. They bring their homosexuality to work, the park, the public and flaunt it in everyone's faces. If they kept it private there wouldn't be a problem.Those of faith that object to abortion, gays or what ever, don't have to include those in their church. They have no right to tell others not of their faith or particular church what to do or who to love or control the body of another person.
They should stay in their own personal space and stay out the space and lives of other people.
The problem is the homo's don't stay in their personal space. They bring their homosexuality to work, the park, the public and flaunt it in everyone's faces. If they kept it private there wouldn't be a problem.Those of faith that object to abortion, gays or what ever, don't have to include those in their church. They have no right to tell others not of their faith or particular church what to do or who to love or control the body of another person.
They should stay in their own personal space and stay out the space and lives of other people.
As far as abortion, having the say of your personal body shouldn't include the right to kill an innocent unborn child.
You don't have right to claim it's stupid to care about other peoples business when these other people make it your business by going public with it.The problem is the homo's don't stay in their personal space. They bring their homosexuality to work, the park, the public and flaunt it in everyone's faces. If they kept it private there wouldn't be a problem.Those of faith that object to abortion, gays or what ever, don't have to include those in their church. They have no right to tell others not of their faith or particular church what to do or who to love or control the body of another person.
They should stay in their own personal space and stay out the space and lives of other people.
As far as abortion, having the say of your personal body shouldn't include the right to kill an innocent unborn child.
if someone approaches or makes a pass, just say no thank you
the same as if some one of the opposite sex.
they are free to go to public places just like every one else. You don't have a right to prevent them or object. You can choose not to look. Personal space is arm length. You can choose to step back or ask them to step back out of your space. They have a right to work and go to restaurants and any place heterosexuals can go.
Stuff the bigotry back in your pocket. Hate is the problem, not them or their love.
You don't have right to claim it's stupid to care about other peoples business when these other people make it your business by going public with it.The problem is the homo's don't stay in their personal space. They bring their homosexuality to work, the park, the public and flaunt it in everyone's faces. If they kept it private there wouldn't be a problem.Those of faith that object to abortion, gays or what ever, don't have to include those in their church. They have no right to tell others not of their faith or particular church what to do or who to love or control the body of another person.
They should stay in their own personal space and stay out the space and lives of other people.
As far as abortion, having the say of your personal body shouldn't include the right to kill an innocent unborn child.
if someone approaches or makes a pass, just say no thank you
the same as if some one of the opposite sex.
they are free to go to public places just like every one else. You don't have a right to prevent them or object. You can choose not to look. Personal space is arm length. You can choose to step back or ask them to step back out of your space. They have a right to work and go to restaurants and any place heterosexuals can go.
Stuff the bigotry back in your pocket. Hate is the problem, not them or their love.
either it's private and none of our business or it is. You can't have it both ways. You want it private keep it private.
So you admit you want public acceptance of your deviancy. That makes it my business.You don't have right to claim it's stupid to care about other peoples business when these other people make it your business by going public with it.The problem is the homo's don't stay in their personal space. They bring their homosexuality to work, the park, the public and flaunt it in everyone's faces. If they kept it private there wouldn't be a problem.Those of faith that object to abortion, gays or what ever, don't have to include those in their church. They have no right to tell others not of their faith or particular church what to do or who to love or control the body of another person.
They should stay in their own personal space and stay out the space and lives of other people.
As far as abortion, having the say of your personal body shouldn't include the right to kill an innocent unborn child.
if someone approaches or makes a pass, just say no thank you
the same as if some one of the opposite sex.
they are free to go to public places just like every one else. You don't have a right to prevent them or object. You can choose not to look. Personal space is arm length. You can choose to step back or ask them to step back out of your space. They have a right to work and go to restaurants and any place heterosexuals can go.
Stuff the bigotry back in your pocket. Hate is the problem, not them or their love.
either it's private and none of our business or it is. You can't have it both ways. You want it private keep it private.
Should holding hand or kissing be banned in public for heterosexuals, to keep it private? Why should gays not have the right to be seen with their partner? Gays are not going to call heterosexuals an abomination and curse them or begin a fight, so why should anti-gay religious people get in the face if homosexuals about their live and love? Keep you opinions and don't interfere with others and their rights.
How is that so hard? Live and let live.
So you admit you want public acceptance of your deviancy. That makes it my business.You don't have right to claim it's stupid to care about other peoples business when these other people make it your business by going public with it.The problem is the homo's don't stay in their personal space. They bring their homosexuality to work, the park, the public and flaunt it in everyone's faces. If they kept it private there wouldn't be a problem.Those of faith that object to abortion, gays or what ever, don't have to include those in their church. They have no right to tell others not of their faith or particular church what to do or who to love or control the body of another person.
They should stay in their own personal space and stay out the space and lives of other people.
As far as abortion, having the say of your personal body shouldn't include the right to kill an innocent unborn child.
if someone approaches or makes a pass, just say no thank you
the same as if some one of the opposite sex.
they are free to go to public places just like every one else. You don't have a right to prevent them or object. You can choose not to look. Personal space is arm length. You can choose to step back or ask them to step back out of your space. They have a right to work and go to restaurants and any place heterosexuals can go.
Stuff the bigotry back in your pocket. Hate is the problem, not them or their love.
either it's private and none of our business or it is. You can't have it both ways. You want it private keep it private.
Should holding hand or kissing be banned in public for heterosexuals, to keep it private? Why should gays not have the right to be seen with their partner? Gays are not going to call heterosexuals an abomination and curse them or begin a fight, so why should anti-gay religious people get in the face if homosexuals about their live and love? Keep you opinions and don't interfere with others and their rights.
How is that so hard? Live and let live.
there is truth in that......we allow no abortions in our church.....Those of faith that object to abortion, gays or what ever, don't have to include those in their church.