A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

[dblack]

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats

They're fighting the use of government to force cultural change.

 

[Geaux4it]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats




A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

I live in rural America - TN and I can say Wuthnow is spot on. However, not seeing how Washington DC is responsible for the moral decay in society we need not look any further past the 8 years under Obama. Gay marriage is a prime example of such

-Geaux

Why would anyone care who someone else marries? What a ridiculous notion.

This is why we young people can't understand the old. We, by and large, like to mind our own business. Old folks like to stick their noses where they don't belong.

I can't rationalize how a guy one day says... 'Yeah, think I'll polish a pole today'

Who and the hell thinks like that? Plenty evidently

-Geaux

 

[boedicca]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats




A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

You forgot to call them Deplorable.

 

[LuckyDuck]

He should interview the left, show them a picture of president Trump then ask them why they are so angry.

It is real easy, he is a despicable human being!

Not as despicable as the Clinton's.

 

[Darkwind]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats




A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

Just out of curiosity, I don't really think you know what you're, or this sociologist, are talking about.

However, when did Trump make assurances that he alone will turn back the clock and bring the 1950's back?

his social policies and now his economic policies will

Try again.

 

[Coyote]

I am glad there are pockets of hope, believe it or not I share your concern, it is a bad problem in WV, we are full of struggling small towns that no longer even have a grocery store. I value agriculture..especially the family farm...an endangered species. Asa nation, we have some of the best agricultural land in the world...we need to place a high value on it and the people who produce it. Not pave it over or disparage farmers

My oldest step son is a millennial and he embraces agriculture more than anyone in the family, expect our new son-in-law who owns part of a 1,500 acre farming operation. I recently read about a housing development that has a very large garden area millennials are enjoying.

That is hopeful...it will be their future....I know people dis millinnials a lot, but there is a lot of hope there. Are you from a farming family?

 

[EGR one]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats




A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

It's a problem.

People are often angry but don't understand why. Others tell them why, but they're not telling them the truth. They believe this lie and then they can't turn back from it because that would be to admit they're stupid or something.

Self reflection?

 

[BluesLegend]

I am glad there are pockets of hope, believe it or not I share your concern, it is a bad problem in WV, we are full of struggling small towns that no longer even have a grocery store. I value agriculture..especially the family farm...an endangered species. Asa nation, we have some of the best agricultural land in the world...we need to place a high value on it and the people who produce it. Not pave it over or disparage farmers

My oldest step son is a millennial and he embraces agriculture more than anyone in the family, expect our new son-in-law who owns part of a 1,500 acre farming operation. I recently read about a housing development that has a very large garden area millennials are enjoying.

That is hopeful...it will be their future....I know people dis millinnials a lot, but there is a lot of hope there. Are you from a farming family?

When millennials discover tax and spend politicians spent all their money and stuck them with trillions of debt all hell will break loose.

 

[EGR one]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats

A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

Conservatives afraid of change? Are cats afraid of vacuum cleaners?

The election of Trump should inform left wing loons that conservatives are not afraid of change. However, we are opposed to the change that the left wing wishes to impose on us. Trump was elected to turn the ship of state away from the rocks and back into deep waters. That is change, and that is good

Pretty much everything about him. You do know he is a liberal at heart don't you?

Eating your own again?

In what way dupe?

Small towns are pissed because they are starting to have big town problems! I get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I spent considerable time in two small towns growing up. In both places it did not take long before I knew pretty much every bodoies name that I would run into. I did not need an ID at the bank the teller knew me personally and my siblings names and my parents names. I very rarely ever locked the door in either town there was no need. When I lived in these towns it had been like fifty years since there had been a murder in either one. Now here comes this opiate epidemic and all that has changed. Murders, theft and break ins now happen in both places. Both places have opiate overdoses they are nothing like when I lived there. I am pissed and I do not live in either place any more.

Big problems in my area as well...but you have to look at what is behind them. Many of the areas with bad problems like that are also economically depressed, jobs have left and so has a lot of the population. You can’t fix the opiate problem without addressing the causes. People want a future and if there is no future, no sense of value it is easier to turn to to drugs,

And scapegoating minorities and people on the other side of the political spectrum does nothing to address the root of the problem , laissez fair capitalism run amok following the cheapest labor around the world and states fighting and outbidding each other for jobs , the poor schmo workers are taught to fight each other for the scraps

Here's a great idea. Why not import hundreds of thousands more poor schmo workers to fight over those scraps? Why not take more of the tax money that these poor schmo workers pay and throw it into the inner city shitholes to keep those imported schmos fed, clothed, and housed? After all, those rural folks seem to be able to fend for themselves, and Detroit needs basketball courts and bicycle paths.

 

[Coyote]

I am glad there are pockets of hope, believe it or not I share your concern, it is a bad problem in WV, we are full of struggling small towns that no longer even have a grocery store. I value agriculture..especially the family farm...an endangered species. Asa nation, we have some of the best agricultural land in the world...we need to place a high value on it and the people who produce it. Not pave it over or disparage farmers

My oldest step son is a millennial and he embraces agriculture more than anyone in the family, expect our new son-in-law who owns part of a 1,500 acre farming operation. I recently read about a housing development that has a very large garden area millennials are enjoying.

That is hopeful...it will be their future....I know people dis millinnials a lot, but there is a lot of hope there. Are you from a farming family?

When millennials discover tax and spend politicians spent all their money and stuck them with trillions of debt all hell will break loose.

The current huge increase in debt is...Trump. Not good.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats




A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

It took him 8 years to play identity politics? A truly stupid leftist. It's the easiest game there is to play, hence so many leftists play it.

 

[evenflow1969]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats

A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

Conservatives afraid of change? Are cats afraid of vacuum cleaners?

The election of Trump should inform left wing loons that conservatives are not afraid of change. However, we are opposed to the change that the left wing wishes to impose on us. Trump was elected to turn the ship of state away from the rocks and back into deep waters. That is change, and that is good

Eating your own again?

In what way dupe?

Small towns are pissed because they are starting to have big town problems! I get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I spent considerable time in two small towns growing up. In both places it did not take long before I knew pretty much every bodoies name that I would run into. I did not need an ID at the bank the teller knew me personally and my siblings names and my parents names. I very rarely ever locked the door in either town there was no need. When I lived in these towns it had been like fifty years since there had been a murder in either one. Now here comes this opiate epidemic and all that has changed. Murders, theft and break ins now happen in both places. Both places have opiate overdoses they are nothing like when I lived there. I am pissed and I do not live in either place any more.

Big problems in my area as well...but you have to look at what is behind them. Many of the areas with bad problems like that are also economically depressed, jobs have left and so has a lot of the population. You can’t fix the opiate problem without addressing the causes. People want a future and if there is no future, no sense of value it is easier to turn to to drugs,

And scapegoating minorities and people on the other side of the political spectrum does nothing to address the root of the problem , laissez fair capitalism run amok following the cheapest labor around the world and states fighting and outbidding each other for jobs , the poor schmo workers are taught to fight each other for the scraps

Here's a great idea. Why not import hundreds of thousands more poor schmo workers to fight over those scraps? Why not take more of the tax money that these poor schmo workers pay and throw it into the inner city shitholes to keep those imported schmos fed, clothed, and housed? After all, those rural folks seem to be able to fend for themselves, and Detroit needs basketball courts and bicycle paths.

Our problems are not just governental they are also cultural. We are partialy responsible for this plight our selves. We need change on both fronts to get back to where we were!

 

[Skull Pilot]

I don't know about any of you but the people I know who live in rural areas aren't pissed off at all.

It's you pantywaist city people who are always outraged at one thing or another

 

[BluesLegend]

I am glad there are pockets of hope, believe it or not I share your concern, it is a bad problem in WV, we are full of struggling small towns that no longer even have a grocery store. I value agriculture..especially the family farm...an endangered species. Asa nation, we have some of the best agricultural land in the world...we need to place a high value on it and the people who produce it. Not pave it over or disparage farmers

My oldest step son is a millennial and he embraces agriculture more than anyone in the family, expect our new son-in-law who owns part of a 1,500 acre farming operation. I recently read about a housing development that has a very large garden area millennials are enjoying.

That is hopeful...it will be their future....I know people dis millinnials a lot, but there is a lot of hope there. Are you from a farming family?

When millennials discover tax and spend politicians spent all their money and stuck them with trillions of debt all hell will break loose.

The current huge increase in debt is...Trump. Not good.

And the previous $20 trillion congress borrowed and spent?

 

[Rustic]

It is real easy, he is a despicable human being!

What specifically did Trump do to make you angry?

Pretty much everything about him. You do know he is a liberal at heart don't you?

You can't name a one specific thing, yet he makes you angry?

Ok the great health care he promised cheaper and better.
Mexico paying for wall and liking it.
Tax cuts for uber wealthy and corporations while expanding their expenditures and eliminating ours. My taxes will go up 17.4%.
Giving us dirtier air and water.
Rolling bank Dodd-Frank to help insure another banking crisses.

Ok the great health care he promised cheaper and better.
I'm just about as pissed off by this as anyone. At almost retirement age and having paid for health insurance for my family for years, it was stunning how much my cost have gone up since the establishment of the ACA (Obamacare.) Now that my kids have moved out, yet are still single, except one, I still have to pay an absolute ass load of money. My oldest will fall off this coming September, he will turn 28,yet my cost will not go down any... still have to pay for the entire family right now. Hopefully the repel of the mandates will have a small, yet positive, effect on my monthly cost.
Oh, and the whole thing of "if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor" thing was a load of crap. I have not seen the same doctor twice in a row since 2013. The clinic I went to was great, up until that point, but skyrocketing cost, and availability of in network clinics keep shrinking, and my insurance keeps reassigning me to a new primary care provider.
The unintended consequences of "doing something" instead of "doing something the right way" has really put a strain on my family and me. Every time I hear "We gotta pass the bill to see whats in it" burns my ass worse than the standard 3 foot flame. Don't get me wrong, Republicans had 7 friggin years to come up with a workable alternative, and didn't do it, so they aren't off the hook either. The whole system is corrupt and needs to be burnt to the ground, and then the ashes fed into a plasma burner to cleanse it even further. To lay the blame at Trump's feet is fair, I guess, but his first 4 years aren't up yet, so maybe, hopefully, he can get folks together and come up with something fair to us all.
Mexico paying for wall and liking it.
I should stay away from this one, but I won't. Mexico will never "like" paying for the wall, however, I don't think any reasonable person out there honestly thinks there is a way to do it. Not to say he won't try, The Bottom line here is; something has to be done about illegal immigration. My personal opinion is we need more man power, I haven't done the math, however I'm betting manpower vs an actual wall would be less expensive in the long run.
Hyperbole, thy name is "The Wall."
Tax cuts for uber wealthy and corporations while expanding their expenditures and eliminating ours. My taxes will go up 17.4%.
Really? You must be making some bank!
Otherwise, I'm gonna have to throw the Bullshit flag on this one and penalize you 15 yards for typing utter crap
Giving us dirtier air and water.
Not so much. His EO's have taken out of play the more restrictive, unnecessary regulations put in place by an over reaching administration. Folks that are doing dirty to mother nature still have to clean up after themselves, close up pit mines, plant native trees and grasses when done. Frackers are still held responsible if they do something wrong and get their chemicals into ground water, they still have to clean it up and make it right.
Rolling bank Dodd-Frank to help insure another banking crisses,
Have you read Dodd-Frank? the very basic break down goes like this:
Banks "To Big To Fail" (FU BUSH!!) have to keep on hand larger reserves (capital) to cover accounts on hand and investments must be in "easily liquidated" assets in case of a run on banks. So, banks must have so much cash, and government securities......
Then, when the banks are handed 700 some odd billions of taxpayer dollars, as a "stimulus" (hahahahahahahaha) what do the banks do with it? Give ousted CEO's multi-million dollar severances, and store the rest to build up their cash reserves.
Only after those severance packages came out did the gubmint do anything..... once again, too little too late.... those unintended consequences once again. Damn, if only someone would have seen through what would happen to the money back in 2008.... Oh wait.
"The White House will call this a victory," said then-Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY). "But as credit tightens, regulations multiply, and job creation slows even further as a result of this bill, they'll have a hard time convincing the American people that this is a victory for them." -Friggin Mitch McConnell (probably the only thing he got right in 10 years)
When you stifle cash, and make it hard to get a loan, the economy isn't going to grow much. You not only make it hard for Joe Average to get a loan, you make it hard for small business' to get loans which, more often than not, creates a smaller jobs market, which in turn leads to higher un-employment, which leads to higher taxes for those actually earning a living, etc etc etc.... I will say one good thing about Dodd Frank is the whistle blower protections, that being said, I personally think that could have been done separately, and in a much better manner to insure those that do so, aren't black listed, or have any sort of retaliation come back on them... whatsoever.

To lay all your issues at the feet of a duly elected President is hogwash. What Trump managed to do, and lets face it, he was the lamb being led to slaughter by the Republicans in the face of the Clinton machine.... Any who, he beat both sides at their own game, and yet all he gets from the MSM is hate, rancor, and charges of racism. When in fact, he is merit based and expects results.
But whatever, hold onto your hate for him.....

The federal government fucks everything up it touches....

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

I'm amazed.

I'm not even one of the small-town Americans discussed here (I live in Sacramento, the capital of this nation's most corrupt state), and it is absolutely clear to me why much of mainstream America is unhappy with our federal government, and it is absolutely clear to me what the government has done, to promote moral decline.

So, someone spent eight years in what was supposed to be a professional-grade research project, and he can't get as clear a view of what is going wrong, as is obvious without any specific research, to a mainstream American such as myself? He cannot be very much of a competent researcher.

 

[EGR one]

Wow, the clueless speculation of two regressives

Actually, the author went right to people and asked them questions, then reported on the answers.

He found that not only did the people to whom he spoke not articulate preciselt what problems they were upset about, but also did not articulate how Washington was responsible for them.

That's an interesting finding. Care to comment on it, once you are done with your little display?

It pretty much depends on who he asked, and the value he placed on the individual answers. What is real, is that in 8 years, he is apparently no closer to the truth now than he was when he started. Rural Americans see their local economy getting constantly weaker. They see the values they grew up with being demeaned by the political elites. They see hordes of aliens, mostly illegals, taking the few available jobs, by working for less and reducing labor rates for all. And, they see fat cat politicians and academic elites telling them that they are racist and bigoted for daring to question the status quo.

I

 

[iceberg]

I am glad there are pockets of hope, believe it or not I share your concern, it is a bad problem in WV, we are full of struggling small towns that no longer even have a grocery store. I value agriculture..especially the family farm...an endangered species. Asa nation, we have some of the best agricultural land in the world...we need to place a high value on it and the people who produce it. Not pave it over or disparage farmers

My oldest step son is a millennial and he embraces agriculture more than anyone in the family, expect our new son-in-law who owns part of a 1,500 acre farming operation. I recently read about a housing development that has a very large garden area millennials are enjoying.

That is hopeful...it will be their future....I know people dis millinnials a lot, but there is a lot of hope there. Are you from a farming family?

When millennials discover tax and spend politicians spent all their money and stuck them with trillions of debt all hell will break loose.

The current huge increase in debt is...Trump. Not good.

How did Obama leave us?

Not a justification for Trump but a call for same standards.

 

[Coyote]

I am glad there are pockets of hope, believe it or not I share your concern, it is a bad problem in WV, we are full of struggling small towns that no longer even have a grocery store. I value agriculture..especially the family farm...an endangered species. Asa nation, we have some of the best agricultural land in the world...we need to place a high value on it and the people who produce it. Not pave it over or disparage farmers

My oldest step son is a millennial and he embraces agriculture more than anyone in the family, expect our new son-in-law who owns part of a 1,500 acre farming operation. I recently read about a housing development that has a very large garden area millennials are enjoying.

That is hopeful...it will be their future....I know people dis millinnials a lot, but there is a lot of hope there. Are you from a farming family?

When millennials discover tax and spend politicians spent all their money and stuck them with trillions of debt all hell will break loose.

The current huge increase in debt is...Trump. Not good.

How did Obama leave us?

Not a justification for Trump but a call for same standards.

Obama was president during the worst recession since the Great Depression and pulled us out, and I think that situation makes it extremely difficult to address debt. Wouldn't you think? That is actually a time when you need more government spending as I understand it economics (which I admit often seems like witchcraft) When the economy is doing good - that is when to cut spending. But it isn't happening. Instead, we cut, hugely, revenue with the tax bill...I am concerned where that will leave us. And I'm concerned that there doesn't seem to be any concern. I usually trust the Republicans to balance the Dems desire to spend more with their desire to cut spending. Ain't happening...

 

[dblack]

I am glad there are pockets of hope, believe it or not I share your concern, it is a bad problem in WV, we are full of struggling small towns that no longer even have a grocery store. I value agriculture..especially the family farm...an endangered species. Asa nation, we have some of the best agricultural land in the world...we need to place a high value on it and the people who produce it. Not pave it over or disparage farmers

My oldest step son is a millennial and he embraces agriculture more than anyone in the family, expect our new son-in-law who owns part of a 1,500 acre farming operation. I recently read about a housing development that has a very large garden area millennials are enjoying.

That is hopeful...it will be their future....I know people dis millinnials a lot, but there is a lot of hope there. Are you from a farming family?

When millennials discover tax and spend politicians spent all their money and stuck them with trillions of debt all hell will break loose.

The current huge increase in debt is...Trump. Not good.

How did Obama leave us?

Not a justification for Trump but a call for same standards.

We should call for higher standards. Same old crap is killing us.