A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The economy has changed, and rural america is getting left behind. We have a feedback loop of wanting cheaper goods, which sends manufactiring offshore, which lowers wages, which leads to increasing pressure for cheaper goods. As our economy moves to service and tech, those with less education risk falling into the lowest earning brackets. There are not mant service jobs to be had in an area where nobody owns wealth or assets to service. Think it's bad now? Give it another 20 years.

 

[saveliberty]

I am glad there are pockets of hope, believe it or not I share your concern, it is a bad problem in WV, we are full of struggling small towns that no longer even have a grocery store. I value agriculture..especially the family farm...an endangered species. Asa nation, we have some of the best agricultural land in the world...we need to place a high value on it and the people who produce it. Not pave it over or disparage farmers

My oldest step son is a millennial and he embraces agriculture more than anyone in the family, expect our new son-in-law who owns part of a 1,500 acre farming operation. I recently read about a housing development that has a very large garden area millennials are enjoying.

 

[Jimmy_Chitwood]

He should interview the left, show them a picture of president Trump then ask them why they are so angry.

It is real easy, he is a despicable human being!

And The Hag could not beat him?

Speaks volumes.

 

[saveliberty]

This whole line of reasoning with agriculture cracks me up. You see a lot of rural Whole Foods stores? Who wants to pay more for food urban or rural people?

 

[saveliberty]

Flyover states....

You know, those places were we build all the cars and grow all of the food?

 

[healthmyths]

A very large part of the issue is the MSM.

To get an idea of how the MSM "presents" news, that forms opinions that are polled and politicians vote on policies affect by the polls influenced by the MSM!
Media Give Trump Most Negative Presidential Coverage in 25 Years

 

[OKTexas]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats




A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

Wow, the clueless speculation of two regressives, a society or culture that loses discipline and personal responsibility is devolving, not evolving, and is a direct cause of moral decline. The process has been ongoing for near 50 years.


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[Fort Fun Indiana]

Wow, the clueless speculation of two regressives

Actually, the author went right to people and asked them questions, then reported on the answers.

He found that not only did the people to whom he spoke not articulate preciselt what problems they were upset about, but also did not articulate how Washington was responsible for them.

That's an interesting finding. Care to comment on it, once you are done with your little display?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats




A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

Classic reactionaryism, typical of most on the right: the unwarranted fear of change.

And that unwarranted fear results in a desire to return to an idealized American past that never existed to begin with – a past that was far from ‘ideal’ for women, gay and transgender Americans, minorities, and immigrants.

As conservatives pursue their futile efforts to return to that ideal, mythical past and stop ‘moral decline,’ they seek to disadvantage through force of law those whom they perceive to be ‘different’ and ‘responsible’ for ‘moral decline.’

The conservative movement is therefore the manifestation of the reactionary right’s fear and desire to intimidate and punish dissent by violating the rights and protected liberties of those believed to be facilitators of change.

 

[Aldo Raine]

This is not a political issue but a social issue.

Social issues are often met with political solutions for better or worse.

Ya can not argue with that.

 

[Aldo Raine]

He should interview the left, show them a picture of president Trump then ask them why they are so angry.

It is real easy, he is a despicable human being!

And The Hag could not beat him?

Speaks volumes.

Sure does, about Rumpers as well!

 

[Rustic]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats




A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

That why rural and urban America will never see anything the same, as the way it should be. No can expect the other to be content in a life that is foreign to them in every way.
Hell to me is socialist Europe, I don’t think I would even last days there if I had to live there.
The divide in this country is not race you stupid fucker, it is rural and urban. Lol

 

[Rustic]

He should interview the left, show them a picture of president Trump then ask them why they are so angry.

It is real easy, he is a despicable human being!

What specifically did Trump do to make you angry?

Pretty much everything about him. You do know he is a liberal at heart don't you?

You can't name a one specific thing, yet he makes you angry?

Ok the great health care he promised cheaper and better.
Mexico paying for wall and liking it.
Tax cuts for uber wealthy and corporations while expanding their expenditures and eliminating ours. My taxes will go up 17.4%.
Giving us dirtier air and water.
Rolling bank Dodd-Frank to help insure another banking crisses.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

The dumb liberal bigots just can't understand why the people whom they loath will not vote Democrat...amazing

 

[OKTexas]

Wow, the clueless speculation of two regressives

Actually, the author went right to people and asked them questions, then reported on the answers.

He found that not only did the people to whom he spoke not articulate preciselt what problems they were upset about, but also did not articulate how Washington was responsible for them.

That's an interesting finding. Care to comment on it, once you are done with your little display?

Screw you and your condescension, this country has been in decline since they took God and discipline out of the schools and started threatening parents for disciplining their children. You can talk your regressive bullshit till the cows come home and it won't change that FACT. A civil society needs hard and fast rules, not just suggestions that may or may not be enforced. You moral relativist are a cancer on this country and should be demonized as the freaks and subversive assholes you are. Is that articulate enough for ya?


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[Fort Fun Indiana]

Wow, the clueless speculation of two regressives

Actually, the author went right to people and asked them questions, then reported on the answers.

He found that not only did the people to whom he spoke not articulate preciselt what problems they were upset about, but also did not articulate how Washington was responsible for them.

That's an interesting finding. Care to comment on it, once you are done with your little display?

Screw you and your condescension, this country has been in decline since they took God and discipline out of the schools and started threatening parents for disciplining their children. You can talk your regressive bullshit till the cows come home and it won't change that FACT. A civil society needs hard and fast rules, not just suggestions that may or may not be enforced. You moral relativist are a cancer on this country and should be demonized as the freaks and subversive assholes you are. Is that articulate enough for ya?


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No crybaby, you still did not comment on the author's findings. You just regurgitated your daily hissy fit.

Try again?

 

[DamnDude]

He should interview the left, show them a picture of president Trump then ask them why they are so angry.

It is real easy, he is a despicable human being!

What specifically did Trump do to make you angry?

Pretty much everything about him. You do know he is a liberal at heart don't you?

You can't name a one specific thing, yet he makes you angry?

Ok the great health care he promised cheaper and better.
Mexico paying for wall and liking it.
Tax cuts for uber wealthy and corporations while expanding their expenditures and eliminating ours. My taxes will go up 17.4%.
Giving us dirtier air and water.
Rolling bank Dodd-Frank to help insure another banking crisses.

Ok the great health care he promised cheaper and better.
I'm just about as pissed off by this as anyone. At almost retirement age and having paid for health insurance for my family for years, it was stunning how much my cost have gone up since the establishment of the ACA (Obamacare.) Now that my kids have moved out, yet are still single, except one, I still have to pay an absolute ass load of money. My oldest will fall off this coming September, he will turn 28,yet my cost will not go down any... still have to pay for the entire family right now. Hopefully the repel of the mandates will have a small, yet positive, effect on my monthly cost.
Oh, and the whole thing of "if you like your doctor, you keep your doctor" thing was a load of crap. I have not seen the same doctor twice in a row since 2013. The clinic I went to was great, up until that point, but skyrocketing cost, and availability of in network clinics keep shrinking, and my insurance keeps reassigning me to a new primary care provider.
The unintended consequences of "doing something" instead of "doing something the right way" has really put a strain on my family and me. Every time I hear "We gotta pass the bill to see whats in it" burns my ass worse than the standard 3 foot flame. Don't get me wrong, Republicans had 7 friggin years to come up with a workable alternative, and didn't do it, so they aren't off the hook either. The whole system is corrupt and needs to be burnt to the ground, and then the ashes fed into a plasma burner to cleanse it even further. To lay the blame at Trump's feet is fair, I guess, but his first 4 years aren't up yet, so maybe, hopefully, he can get folks together and come up with something fair to us all.
Mexico paying for wall and liking it.
I should stay away from this one, but I won't. Mexico will never "like" paying for the wall, however, I don't think any reasonable person out there honestly thinks there is a way to do it. Not to say he won't try, The Bottom line here is; something has to be done about illegal immigration. My personal opinion is we need more man power, I haven't done the math, however I'm betting manpower vs an actual wall would be less expensive in the long run.
Hyperbole, thy name is "The Wall."
Tax cuts for uber wealthy and corporations while expanding their expenditures and eliminating ours. My taxes will go up 17.4%.
Really? You must be making some bank!
Otherwise, I'm gonna have to throw the Bullshit flag on this one and penalize you 15 yards for typing utter crap
Giving us dirtier air and water.
Not so much. His EO's have taken out of play the more restrictive, unnecessary regulations put in place by an over reaching administration. Folks that are doing dirty to mother nature still have to clean up after themselves, close up pit mines, plant native trees and grasses when done. Frackers are still held responsible if they do something wrong and get their chemicals into ground water, they still have to clean it up and make it right.
Rolling bank Dodd-Frank to help insure another banking crisses,
Have you read Dodd-Frank? the very basic break down goes like this:
Banks "To Big To Fail" (FU BUSH!!) have to keep on hand larger reserves (capital) to cover accounts on hand and investments must be in "easily liquidated" assets in case of a run on banks. So, banks must have so much cash, and government securities......
Then, when the banks are handed 700 some odd billions of taxpayer dollars, as a "stimulus" (hahahahahahahaha) what do the banks do with it? Give ousted CEO's multi-million dollar severances, and store the rest to build up their cash reserves.
Only after those severance packages came out did the gubmint do anything..... once again, too little too late.... those unintended consequences once again. Damn, if only someone would have seen through what would happen to the money back in 2008.... Oh wait.
"The White House will call this a victory," said then-Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY). "But as credit tightens, regulations multiply, and job creation slows even further as a result of this bill, they'll have a hard time convincing the American people that this is a victory for them." -Friggin Mitch McConnell (probably the only thing he got right in 10 years)
When you stifle cash, and make it hard to get a loan, the economy isn't going to grow much. You not only make it hard for Joe Average to get a loan, you make it hard for small business' to get loans which, more often than not, creates a smaller jobs market, which in turn leads to higher un-employment, which leads to higher taxes for those actually earning a living, etc etc etc.... I will say one good thing about Dodd Frank is the whistle blower protections, that being said, I personally think that could have been done separately, and in a much better manner to insure those that do so, aren't black listed, or have any sort of retaliation come back on them... whatsoever.

To lay all your issues at the feet of a duly elected President is hogwash. What Trump managed to do, and lets face it, he was the lamb being led to slaughter by the Republicans in the face of the Clinton machine.... Any who, he beat both sides at their own game, and yet all he gets from the MSM is hate, rancor, and charges of racism. When in fact, he is merit based and expects results.
But whatever, hold onto your hate for him.....

 

[Geaux4it]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats




A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

I live in rural America - TN and I can say Wuthnow is spot on. However, not seeing how Washington DC is responsible for the moral decay in society we need not look any further past the 8 years under Obama. Gay marriage is a prime example of such

-Geaux

 

[John Shaw]

Robert Wuthnow, a sociologist at Princeton University, spent eight years interviewing Americans in small towns across the country. He had one goal: to understand why rural America is so angry with Washington.

"Wuthnow’s work resulted in a new book, The Left Behind: Decline and Rage in Rural America. He argues that rural Americans are less concerned about economic issues and more concerned about Washington threatening the social fabric of small towns and causing a “moral decline” in the country as a whole. The problem, though, is that it’s never quite clear what that means or how Washington is responsible for it."

And this is where he gets to the root
Sean Illing
"I guess I just don’t know how to respond to these sorts of complaints. Yes, the world has changed; it’s always changing. And I understand the sense of loss some people feel because of that, but at some point, we have to acknowledge that culture evolves and stop trying to unwind the historical clock."

They have been fighting cultural changes they already lost, then trump comes along and assures them he alone will turn back the clock and bring back their 1950's world of minorities and women knowing their places and then sells them MAGA hats




A Princeton sociologist spent 8 years asking rural Americans why they’re so pissed off

I live in rural America - TN and I can say Wuthnow is spot on. However, not seeing how Washington DC is responsible for the moral decay in society we need not look any further past the 8 years under Obama. Gay marriage is a prime example of such

-Geaux

Why would anyone care who someone else marries? What a ridiculous notion.

This is why we young people can't understand the old. We, by and large, like to mind our own business. Old folks like to stick their noses where they don't belong.

 

[OKTexas]

Wow, the clueless speculation of two regressives

Actually, the author went right to people and asked them questions, then reported on the answers.

He found that not only did the people to whom he spoke not articulate preciselt what problems they were upset about, but also did not articulate how Washington was responsible for them.

That's an interesting finding. Care to comment on it, once you are done with your little display?

Screw you and your condescension, this country has been in decline since they took God and discipline out of the schools and started threatening parents for disciplining their children. You can talk your regressive bullshit till the cows come home and it won't change that FACT. A civil society needs hard and fast rules, not just suggestions that may or may not be enforced. You moral relativist are a cancer on this country and should be demonized as the freaks and subversive assholes you are. Is that articulate enough for ya?


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No crybaby, you still did not comment on the author's findings. You just regurgitated your daily hissy fit.

Try again?

What findings, all I saw was opinions.


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