a note to GOP faithfuls from an independent

[Avatar4321]

It's funny really. Some of the republicans on this board are so rightist, they view moderates as leftist.

Here's a heads up: not everyone who is left of your political spectrum is a liberal.

Actually, what's down right scary is you guys are so far left that you think Balancing the budget, supporting free market growth, and treating people equally are radical concepts from the right.

 

[beretta304]

It's funny really. Some of the republicans on this board are so rightist, they view moderates as leftist.

Here's a heads up: not everyone who is left of your political spectrum is a liberal.

True but then again not everyone who is right of your political spectrum is a rightwinger or a member of the GOP.

The extremes are always the most bombastic and in your face so often they seem to be the majority.

He's an "Independent" but hopes the GOP keeps losing. Then unless he is a Libertarian he's a fucking liar.

 

[Dreamy]

Occasional lurker, 1st time poster here. I wanted to mention something to the folks on here who subscribe to these crazy ideas about the election like:

-obama voters won because the "takers want free shit"
-romney was favored to win(an objective look across numerous independent polls showed obama favored to win handily)
-obama voters were just marketed to more effectively
-generally refuting anything factual or statistically based

For your own sake, you really need to get your head in the game. This is all utter bullshit. The GOP will be best served by trying to incorporate reality, whether it pertains to polling, science, or anything else. They really need to entertain that voters actually understood the policies espoused by both sides, and made an informed choice. I frankly dont give a flying fuck if the GOP spends the next 20 years in the bubble that they just cruised through this election in, as long as they keep losing.[/SIZE] But if they eventually put a candidate in the white house, and he is one of these ideologues on the far right who denies science and statistics, we're all gonna be in a world of hurt, thus I DO care. Id frankly rather have a GOP that can compete with the dems, than what it is now.
A word to the wise: reside in cuckoo land at your own peril.

But your an Independent.

Shame on me for not taking note of that little revealing tidbit.

 

[Avatar4321]

Occasional lurker, 1st time poster here. I wanted to mention something to the folks on here who subscribe to these crazy ideas about the election like:

-obama voters won because the "takers want free shit"
-romney was favored to win(an objective look across numerous independent polls showed obama favored to win handily)
-obama voters were just marketed to more effectively
-generally refuting anything factual or statistically based

For your own sake, you really need to get your head in the game. This is all utter bullshit. The GOP will be best served by trying to incorporate reality, whether it pertains to polling, science, or anything else. They really need to entertain that voters actually understood the policies espoused by both sides, and made an informed choice. I frankly dont give a flying fuck if the GOP spends the next 20 years in the bubble that they just cruised through this election in, as long as they keep losing. But if they eventually put a candidate in the white house, and he is one of these ideologues on the far right who denies science and statistics, we're all gonna be in a world of hurt, thus I DO care. Id frankly rather have a GOP that can compete with the dems, than what it is now.
A word to the wise: reside in cuckoo land at your own peril.

But your an Independent.

And yet, despite being completely disingenuous and misrepresenting who they are, they are shocked why their viewpoint isn't taken for Gospel truth and why our government and society are completely corrupt.

 

[Avatar4321]

It's funny really. Some of the republicans on this board are so rightist, they view moderates as leftist.

Here's a heads up: not everyone who is left of your political spectrum is a liberal.

True but then again not everyone who is right of your political spectrum is a rightwinger or a member of the GOP.

The extremes are always the most bombastic and in your face so often they seem to be the majority.

He's an "Independent" but hopes the GOP keeps losing. Then unless he is a Libertarian he's a fucking liar.

If he is libertarian then by definition he still isnt Independent.

 

[Photonic]

True but then again not everyone who is right of your political spectrum is a rightwinger or a member of the GOP.

The extremes are always the most bombastic and in your face so often they seem to be the majority.

He's an "Independent" but hopes the GOP keeps losing. Then unless he is a Libertarian he's a fucking liar.

If he is libertarian then by definition he still isnt Independent.

Libertarians are pretty conservative. They fall to the right.

 

[Some Guy]

Libertarians are pretty conservative.

Do you know what a libertarian is?

 

[nodoginnafight]

It's funny really. Some of the republicans on this board are so rightist, they view moderates as leftist.

Here's a heads up: not everyone who is left of your political spectrum is a liberal.

Actually, what's down right scary is you guys are so far left that you think Balancing the budget, supporting free market growth, and treating people equally are radical concepts from the right.

Balancing the budget - you mean just like the Republican presidents we've had have done?????

supporting free market growth - you mean like trickle down economics??????

treating people equally - you mean like equal pay for women that you filibustered??? Like gays and lesbians?????

Become what you SAY you are - then we'll talk. Until then ... you're just spouting empty words.

And you wonder why people aren't buying what you're selling ????????

 

[Erand7899]

Librard pretending to be an 'independent', #1456678



LOL

Bobby "The RINO" Jindal said even more about the GOP and was tossed under the bus. Not so bright SniperFire doesn't get it and never will.

Bobby Jindal puts his pants on one leg at a time, just like most of the rest of us. His opinion, is nothing more than his opinion, and is not supreme wisdom passed down by the Gods of politics. You seem to have completely missed that part.

Disagreeing with him is not a crime, and is definitely not throwing him under any bus. You seem to have missed that also.

You aren't too damn bright, are you? Of course not, you voted for Obama.

 

[Photonic]

Libertarians are pretty conservative.

Do you know what a libertarian is?

Technically, a pure libertarian would be neither left nor right, but more often they fall right on the political spectrum.

 

[Photonic]

Ahh yes, trickle down economics. The belief that if you let rich people piss on the poor often enough, something will get done.

 

[Erand7899]

It's funny really. Some of the republicans on this board are so rightist, they view moderates as leftist.

Here's a heads up: not everyone who is left of your political spectrum is a liberal.

Actually, what's down right scary is you guys are so far left that you think Balancing the budget, supporting free market growth, and treating people equally are radical concepts from the right.

Balancing the budget - you mean just like the Republican presidents we've had have done?????

supporting free market growth - you mean like trickle down economics??????

treating people equally - you mean like equal pay for women that you filibustered??? Like gays and lesbians?????

Become what you SAY you are - then we'll talk. Until then ... you're just spouting empty words.

And you wonder why people aren't buying what you're selling ????????

Is trickle down economics all you know about free market growth?

Do you even have a concept of what the negative effects of the equal pay for women would be?

What rights do gays and lesbians not have that the rest of us have?

When you finally learn what the hell you are yapping about, maybe you would be in the market for new ideas, or at least have a reasonable grasp of your own ideas.

 

[Avatar4321]

It's funny really. Some of the republicans on this board are so rightist, they view moderates as leftist.

Here's a heads up: not everyone who is left of your political spectrum is a liberal.

Actually, what's down right scary is you guys are so far left that you think Balancing the budget, supporting free market growth, and treating people equally are radical concepts from the right.

Balancing the budget - you mean just like the Republican presidents we've had have done?????

supporting free market growth - you mean like trickle down economics??????

treating people equally - you mean like equal pay for women that you filibustered??? Like gays and lesbians?????

Become what you SAY you are - then we'll talk. Until then ... you're just spouting empty words.

And you wonder why people aren't buying what you're selling ????????

In the last 50 years. Only a Republican Congress has ever balanced a budget. We could have one now if we actually had a budget. Unfortunately, the Senate and President are blocking any efforts at serious reform.

Free market as in liberty. You know. two people making a mutually beneficial deal without the government trying to control what they do. Radical concept I know. You're making my point.

You do realizes that "equal pay" bill did absolutely nothing of the sort. All it did was allow trial attorneys more time to file suits above and beyond what they already had. Somehow we are supposed to give gender descrimination a unequal advantage compared to other forms of descrimination. So yeah, opposing unequal treatment is for equality. Equality is the same treatment before the law regardless of your gender, skin color, ethnicitiy, etc. When you pass bills making people unequal, that is by definition not equality. I don't know why this is difficult for people to understand.

Yet you find all these concepts radical. You find free speech radical. You find the right to self defense radical. You think people working for what they consume is radical. You people are seriously freakin scary because you can look at whats going on and come to conclusions that are completely contrary to reality.

Even suggesting that someone not kill an unborn child for example. You guys treat that like it's insane. May as well call the sun the moon and the moon the sun.

 

[Photonic]

Actually, what's down right scary is you guys are so far left that you think Balancing the budget, supporting free market growth, and treating people equally are radical concepts from the right.

Balancing the budget - you mean just like the Republican presidents we've had have done?????

supporting free market growth - you mean like trickle down economics??????

treating people equally - you mean like equal pay for women that you filibustered??? Like gays and lesbians?????

Become what you SAY you are - then we'll talk. Until then ... you're just spouting empty words.

And you wonder why people aren't buying what you're selling ????????

Is trickle down economics all you know about free market growth?

Do you even have a concept of what the negative effects of the equal pay for women would be?

What rights do gays and lesbians not have that the rest of us have?

When you finally learn what the hell you are yapping about, maybe you would be in the market for new ideas, or at least have a reasonable grasp of your own ideas.

Are you then advocating that women not be payed equally, or denying that the LGBT community actually has less rights than a normal citizen?

 

[Avatar4321]

Ahh yes, trickle down economics. The belief that if you let rich people piss on the poor often enough, something will get done.

Suprise. You have to completely redefine the free market to reach your conclusions.

And we are the radical ones.

if two people make a decision to freely exchange one good or service for money (or another good or service), how is either one harmed?

 

[Some Guy]

Libertarians are pretty conservative.

Do you know what a libertarian is?

Technically, a pure libertarian would be neither left nor right, but more often they fall right on the political spectrum.

"Right vs. Left" is just the x axis on the spectrum. There's also a y axis: it's authoritarian vs. libertarian. There's plenty of ways to interpret it and it's more complex than this but here's a simple picture:

Left = authoritarian economically, libertarian socially. Right = authoritarian socially, libertarian economically.

So, in general, a Libertarian would support lower taxes and less regulation in the marketplace just like a conservative would. However, a Libertarian would share similar views on abortion (pro-choice) and gay rights. One thing that libertarians have become known for a little bit is the legalization of marijuana.

So, when you say "libertarians are right" in a general sense, you're wrong; it depends on the issue.

 

[Avatar4321]

Are you then advocating that women not be payed equally, or denying that the LGBT community actually has less rights than a normal citizen?

Why are you presuming women as so pathetically incompetant that they can't negotiate their own pay? And why should women have more time to file a discrimination suit then say a black man?

 

[Erand7899]

Balancing the budget - you mean just like the Republican presidents we've had have done?????

supporting free market growth - you mean like trickle down economics??????

treating people equally - you mean like equal pay for women that you filibustered??? Like gays and lesbians?????

Become what you SAY you are - then we'll talk. Until then ... you're just spouting empty words.

And you wonder why people aren't buying what you're selling ????????

Is trickle down economics all you know about free market growth?

Do you even have a concept of what the negative effects of the equal pay for women would be?

What rights do gays and lesbians not have that the rest of us have?

When you finally learn what the hell you are yapping about, maybe you would be in the market for new ideas, or at least have a reasonable grasp of your own ideas.

Are you then advocating that women not be payed equally, or denying that the LGBT community actually has less rights than a normal citizen?

No, I am not advocating that women be paid less, and I am not advocating that gays or lesbians be discriminated against. I am advocating that truth and honest discussion should prevail, even in political discussion.

 

[Avatar4321]

No, I am not advocating that women be paid less, and I am not advocating that gays or lesbians be discriminated against. I am advocating that truth and honest discussion should prevail, even in political discussion.

There are only a handful of people on any side of the aisle that would allot truth and honest discussion to prevail.

 

[nodoginnafight]

yapping in one direction
acting in another

it's called hypocricy and it's why I left the Republican Party.

The really sad part is that so many just keep repeating the empty words to themselves over and over so much, that they really don't understand where they strayed. You try to explain it to them - and they just start rejurgitating the kool aid back at you over and over.

I swear it's like a cult or something.

Political extremism (on both sides) is just a cult now.