A mothers rant regarding the Newtown Tragedy

Like I stated before, when I was fourteen years old I watched bullet fragments be taken out of my 17 year old brother's face. I grew up in suburbia, and my parents kept us safe and way from all the scary stuff in life and my brother still got shot by a lunatic teenager. So please don't lecture me on how I would feel.

No lecturing here whatseover.
Simply stating what I believe to be the truth...having your child killed while they are in the care of someone else and without any form of anti gun defense within 500 yards of him/her would make you feel differently....especially if you had another child.

I don't think it would, just like the God argument. A gun wouldn't have stopped this asshole, he had on a bullet proof vest, and God in schools would not have stopped him either, because he didn't go to school there.
Instead of focusing on the real issues, the way we treat the mentally ill, you guys are focusing on something that would not have stopped him. If there had been an armed guard at the school, he would have been the first one killed. If you don't think that, don't lecture me on what is logical.

An armed guard would have possibly saved the lives of children. Maybe not. Maybe he would have died first. But the chances are greater for saving the kids with an armed guard.

God would not have saved the kids....but God in the school would have given the kids common ground with each other at a moment where prayer, at the very least, would give comfort.
 
I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.
Two things.

Guards are not needed. Teacher can and have carried weapons. With very good training I might add...

However, the real question that you need to ask yourself is, "Why do you think your kid will be scared at school if he or she sees a gun?"

I don't know, for logical reasons........Lets see, why would his teacher need a gun at school?
I don't want my son's teacher to have a gun, I don't want an armed guard at his school, and I don't want idiots making my son live in constant fear. I have not taught my son to be scared of gun, I am not for gun control. I just don't want my son to be afraid of something that will probably never happen to him because right wing loons have a new thing to be scared about.
My daughter Jessica left here this morning after a week long visit.
The subject of guards in school did come up in conversation a couple times.
She's 30 now, so has a more adult perspective.

She says that when she was in high school, (Central High School Bridgeport, CT) there were 4 armed guards stationed around the school. Guns were carried as any police officer would, in plain view of the students. My daughter said she, even as a freshman, felt safe when she was close to a guard and she realized that they were necessary.

Why do you people insist that students that are better protected will be more afraid? It makes no sense.
 
But you have no issue telling him about the importance of wearing a seat belt.

You do not have to have your child learn from a standpoint of fear. You can teach him from a standpoint of logic and rationalities.

Logic? Logic would tell you that this will probably never happen at my son's school, so why make him scared of it? And a seat belt? Yeah, that is a good comparison to having a armed guard at school. :lol:

Yep, I am so the big government psychopath. :lol:

Nice little spin.

The comparison was not the seat belt to the armed guard..

The analogy was about "teaching your child to be afraid of car accidents...but refusing to teach your child about the existance of bad people".

It is still is horrible analogy. For one, one has a much higher chance of happening, while the other does not. How many people every year are killed by car wrecks or are injured in car wrecks every year? How many people a year are killed or injured by sociopaths shooting up their school each year?

Not one child has been killed by a gun this year while at school in my city that I know of, I wonder how many have been in a car wreck?

Do light your house on fire to solve an ant problem?
 
I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.

I find it interesting that big government psychopaths think armed guards for children is a bad idea.

I hate to burst your bubble, but you have never been in a bank that did not have an armed guard. (I take that back, I actually enjoy bursting your bubble.) Just because you don't see them is not proof they do not exist.

I never said they didn't exist, I said I have not been in a bank that had one.

And how am I big government psychopath? Please explain to me how I am for big government, other than taking care of our poor?
I will be waiting.........and I will be waiting for awhile. You are moron who likes to believe what they want to believe.

How are you for big government? You support Obamacare, raising taxes to pay for more spending, and want more regulation to protect people from evil insurance companies, how are you not for big government?
 
Two things.

Guards are not needed. Teacher can and have carried weapons. With very good training I might add...

However, the real question that you need to ask yourself is, "Why do you think your kid will be scared at school if he or she sees a gun?"

I don't know, for logical reasons........Lets see, why would his teacher need a gun at school?
I don't want my son's teacher to have a gun, I don't want an armed guard at his school, and I don't want idiots making my son live in constant fear. I have not taught my son to be scared of gun, I am not for gun control. I just don't want my son to be afraid of something that will probably never happen to him because right wing loons have a new thing to be scared about.
My daughter Jessica left here this morning after a week long visit.
The subject of guards in school did come up in conversation a couple times.
She's 30 now, so has a more adult perspective.

She says that when she was in high school, (Central High School Bridgeport, CT) there were 4 armed guards stationed around the school. Guns were carried as any police officer would, in plain view of the students. My daughter said she, even as a freshman, felt safe when she was close to a guard and she realized that they were necessary.

Why do you people insist that students that are better protected will be more afraid? It makes no sense.

I am happy for your daughter, don't agree with her one bit.
We had one security guard, who do not carry a gun, and no one was every shot at my school while I went there.
 
And tell me why it was needed at her school? Did they have a gun problem there, was it a bad neighborhood, was there a shooting there?
 
Logic? Logic would tell you that this will probably never happen at my son's school, so why make him scared of it? And a seat belt? Yeah, that is a good comparison to having a armed guard at school. :lol:

Yep, I am so the big government psychopath. :lol:

Nice little spin.

The comparison was not the seat belt to the armed guard..

The analogy was about "teaching your child to be afraid of car accidents...but refusing to teach your child about the existance of bad people".

It is still is horrible analogy. For one, one has a much higher chance of happening, while the other does not. How many people every year are killed by car wrecks or are injured in car wrecks every year? How many people a year are killed or injured by sociopaths shooting up their school each year?

Not one child has been killed by a gun this year while at school in my city that I know of, I wonder how many have been in a car wreck?

Do light your house on fire to solve an ant problem?

Ouch. You are going so far off track it hurts my eyes.

Basic premise...there is an increase in school mass shootings....and an overall increase in mass shootings as well. We can either wait until it is commonplace....or we can possibkly save some lives by being proactive and arming the schools, malls, etc...at least until we find out why the increase and find a solution.

When was the last time your school had a fire? Why do they have fire drills?

Back in my day...the 60's.....we had air raid drills....yet at that time it was over 20 years since the ONLY time the US was hit by an enemy from the air (Pearl Harbor).....
 
Nice little spin.

The comparison was not the seat belt to the armed guard..

The analogy was about "teaching your child to be afraid of car accidents...but refusing to teach your child about the existance of bad people".

It is still is horrible analogy. For one, one has a much higher chance of happening, while the other does not. How many people every year are killed by car wrecks or are injured in car wrecks every year? How many people a year are killed or injured by sociopaths shooting up their school each year?

Not one child has been killed by a gun this year while at school in my city that I know of, I wonder how many have been in a car wreck?

Do light your house on fire to solve an ant problem?

Ouch. You are going so far off track it hurts my eyes.

Basic premise...there is an increase in school mass shootings....and an overall increase in mass shootings as well. We can either wait until it is commonplace....or we can possibkly save some lives by being proactive and arming the schools, malls, etc...at least until we find out why the increase and find a solution.

When was the last time your school had a fire? Why do they have fire drills?

Back in my day...the 60's.....we had air raid drills....yet at that time it was over 20 years since the ONLY time the US was hit by an enemy from the air (Pearl Harbor).....
You brought up seat belts, smart one.
and your bring up fire drills and you say I am going off the tracks? :lol:

Teaching your child to be prepared for a fire, doesn't equate to having a armed guard.
 
I have a five year old who goes to Pre School at a public school, I was a senior when the school shootings started to happen, I was a sophomore when a middle school student came to school and shot up his classroom killing his teacher, and it was only two hours from where I lived. I was in school when they started locked downs due to school shooting. I watched the news all day long at school my senior year when Columbine happened. I was also at school when we had to go into a lock down because right wing loons set off a pipe bomb six blocks away from school.
My son has a better chance of dying in a car wreck than being killed by a gunman at school. I am sorry I am being rational, and caring about him not living in fear, then teaching him to be scared of the boogey man.

You're absolutely right. Your boy has a much better chance of dying in a wreck caused by a drug using liberal than of being shot at school. But as the parents of 20 kids in Newtown found out, it is possible. I'm sure they would rather there had been an armed guard at the school despite how traumatized the kids would be from having their lives saved.
 
So if someone is for the government not telling them who they should be allowed to marry, against gun control, for a women's right to choose, for drugs being legal, doesn't want armed guards at their child's school, not for drug testing TANF recipients, well is pretty much against drug testing in general, that translates into being for big government?
No of course not, but to an idiot like you because I don't go ape shit over taxes, one issue, that means I am for big government. Yep, you are onto something. :cuckoo:

I guess that is why I also get stuff like socialist anarchist when I take political tests. No, I am what is called a liberal and you are what is called an idiot.

Social anarchism, seriously? Tell me the truth, somebody made that category up because they didn't want to call themselves socialists.

The only reason government is in the marriage business at all is so they can tell people who can, and cannot, get married. Anyone that really wants the government not to be able to tell people who they can marry would be calling for the government not to be involved at all. You support government sanctioned marriage, that makes you pro big government.

I not only want drugs to be legal, I want them to be available without a prescription. You think the government needs to regulate drugs to keep them safe despite abundant evidence that unregulated drugs are perfectly safe. That makes you pro big government.

You want to impose your morality on everyone, that makes you pro big government.

You assume that the only way to provide armed guards at schools is through government intervention. Their is an entire state that allows any school employee to carry weapons on school grounds, and doesn't pay for any of it with taxpayer funds. In fact, they actually make money because everyone that carries a gun has to get a license to do so. If you were really a social anarchist you would be cheering Utah on, and trying to get your own state to allow the same thing. Unfortunately, you are actually pro big government.

As I have just demonstrated, it is not your support for those things that makes you big government, it is your demand that the government be involved at all that makes you pro big government.
 
Nice little spin.

The comparison was not the seat belt to the armed guard..

The analogy was about "teaching your child to be afraid of car accidents...but refusing to teach your child about the existance of bad people".

It is still is horrible analogy. For one, one has a much higher chance of happening, while the other does not. How many people every year are killed by car wrecks or are injured in car wrecks every year? How many people a year are killed or injured by sociopaths shooting up their school each year?

Not one child has been killed by a gun this year while at school in my city that I know of, I wonder how many have been in a car wreck?

Do light your house on fire to solve an ant problem?

Ouch. You are going so far off track it hurts my eyes.

Basic premise...there is an increase in school mass shootings....and an overall increase in mass shootings as well. We can either wait until it is commonplace....or we can possibkly save some lives by being proactive and arming the schools, malls, etc...at least until we find out why the increase and find a solution.

When was the last time your school had a fire? Why do they have fire drills?

Back in my day...the 60's.....we had air raid drills....yet at that time it was over 20 years since the ONLY time the US was hit by an enemy from the air (Pearl Harbor).....
And there is really an increase in school mass shootings? It seems to me there was more ten to fifteen years ago than there is now.

And it must really suck to be scared of everything. Glad I don't live in constant fear like you men do.
 
I find it interesting that small government right wingers want an armed guard etc at their child's school.

And if one more person uses the example of an armed guard at the bank I might puke. I have never been to a bank with an armed guard. I am sure there are some with armed guards, but not the banks I go to.
My child has a better chance of dying in a car wreck, should I not allow him to ride in the car?

Sorry, I don't want my child to go to school afraid, because the one in a million chance he might be gunned down at school by a sociopath.

I don't know where your kids go to school, Luissa, but mine went to high school in Bridgeport Connecticut and had armed guards, 4 of them on duty at all times. The youngest graduated high school in 2002, so this is not a new phenomenon.

That's great for your children's school, my high school at a security guard, one and he wasn't armed and I did just fine. There is no guard at my son's school and he does just fine.
If you are so afraid of things that will probably never happen, home school your child or send them to a school where they treat them like a prisoner. Don't ruin my son's school, and don't teach my son to be scared of the boogey man.

I don't want your boy to be afraid. I want him to be alive.

Why are armed police officers scary to your son? Has he been raised to think he should fear a cop? Could that be because you fear what a police officer would do to you if he knew what was in that plastic bag in your purse?
 
It is still is horrible analogy. For one, one has a much higher chance of happening, while the other does not. How many people every year are killed by car wrecks or are injured in car wrecks every year? How many people a year are killed or injured by sociopaths shooting up their school each year?

Not one child has been killed by a gun this year while at school in my city that I know of, I wonder how many have been in a car wreck?

Do light your house on fire to solve an ant problem?

Ouch. You are going so far off track it hurts my eyes.

Basic premise...there is an increase in school mass shootings....and an overall increase in mass shootings as well. We can either wait until it is commonplace....or we can possibkly save some lives by being proactive and arming the schools, malls, etc...at least until we find out why the increase and find a solution.

When was the last time your school had a fire? Why do they have fire drills?

Back in my day...the 60's.....we had air raid drills....yet at that time it was over 20 years since the ONLY time the US was hit by an enemy from the air (Pearl Harbor).....
You brought up seat belts, smart one.
and your bring up fire drills and you say I am going off the tracks? :lol:

Teaching your child to be prepared for a fire, doesn't equate to having a armed guard.

You still continue to imply that I was comparing seat belts to armed guards even though I pointed out to you that the analogy was about not being
concerned about putting fear in your child as it pertains to car accidents but concerned about putting putting fear in his eyes as it pertains to bad people.

That speaks volumes to me as to how insecure you are starting to feel about your position.

So I will make you feel even MORE insecure.

What do you say to yoiur child when he sees a police car patrolling his neghborhood?
What do you say when he sees an armed guard at a Brinks truck?
A cop on the beat?
What kind of negative affect did it have on society when they had air raid drills?
How many schools were hiot by bombs from the air over the past...I dont know....200 years?
What kind of negative affect did it have on our children when we had big yellow signs with arrows that said "bomb shelter" throughout the schools?
 
So if someone is for the government not telling them who they should be allowed to marry, against gun control, for a women's right to choose, for drugs being legal, doesn't want armed guards at their child's school, not for drug testing TANF recipients, well is pretty much against drug testing in general, that translates into being for big government?
No of course not, but to an idiot like you because I don't go ape shit over taxes, one issue, that means I am for big government. Yep, you are onto something. :cuckoo:

I guess that is why I also get stuff like socialist anarchist when I take political tests. No, I am what is called a liberal and you are what is called an idiot.

Social anarchism, seriously? Tell me the truth, somebody made that category up because they didn't want to call themselves socialists.

The only reason government is in the marriage business at all is so they can tell people who can, and cannot, get married. Anyone that really wants the government not to be able to tell people who they can marry would be calling for the government not to be involved at all. You support government sanctioned marriage, that makes you pro big government.

I not only want drugs to be legal, I want them to be available without a prescription. You think the government needs to regulate drugs to keep them safe despite abundant evidence that unregulated drugs are perfectly safe. That makes you pro big government.

You want to impose your morality on everyone, that makes you pro big government.

You assume that the only way to provide armed guards at schools is through government intervention. Their is an entire state that allows any school employee to carry weapons on school grounds, and doesn't pay for any of it with taxpayer funds. In fact, they actually make money because everyone that carries a gun has to get a license to do so. If you were really a social anarchist you would be cheering Utah on, and trying to get your own state to allow the same thing. Unfortunately, you are actually pro big government.

As I have just demonstrated, it is not your support for those things that makes you big government, it is your demand that the government be involved at all that makes you pro big government.
I believe in government sanctioned marriage? Got a link to that? No I am for people getting the same rights as everyone else, I don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all. If the government is in the business of marriage, they shouldn't define it, that is all I have stated.
And I want to impose my morality on everyone else? How so? Please explain. Do I want my religion in public schools, do I allow my religion to tell you what you can do with your body or with your life in general?
You are an idiot, and have no clue what big government actually means.
 
It is still is horrible analogy. For one, one has a much higher chance of happening, while the other does not. How many people every year are killed by car wrecks or are injured in car wrecks every year? How many people a year are killed or injured by sociopaths shooting up their school each year?

Not one child has been killed by a gun this year while at school in my city that I know of, I wonder how many have been in a car wreck?

Do light your house on fire to solve an ant problem?

Ouch. You are going so far off track it hurts my eyes.

Basic premise...there is an increase in school mass shootings....and an overall increase in mass shootings as well. We can either wait until it is commonplace....or we can possibkly save some lives by being proactive and arming the schools, malls, etc...at least until we find out why the increase and find a solution.

When was the last time your school had a fire? Why do they have fire drills?

Back in my day...the 60's.....we had air raid drills....yet at that time it was over 20 years since the ONLY time the US was hit by an enemy from the air (Pearl Harbor).....
And there is really an increase in school mass shootings? It seems to me there was more ten to fifteen years ago than there is now.

And it must really suck to be scared of everything. Glad I don't live in constant fear like you men do.

lol...that is your problem.

You see it as fear. I see it as eliminating fear.

In the meantime, you fear evil so much, you prefer to ignore it.
 
Ouch. You are going so far off track it hurts my eyes.

Basic premise...there is an increase in school mass shootings....and an overall increase in mass shootings as well. We can either wait until it is commonplace....or we can possibkly save some lives by being proactive and arming the schools, malls, etc...at least until we find out why the increase and find a solution.

When was the last time your school had a fire? Why do they have fire drills?

Back in my day...the 60's.....we had air raid drills....yet at that time it was over 20 years since the ONLY time the US was hit by an enemy from the air (Pearl Harbor).....
You brought up seat belts, smart one.
and your bring up fire drills and you say I am going off the tracks? :lol:

Teaching your child to be prepared for a fire, doesn't equate to having a armed guard.

You still continue to imply that I was comparing seat belts to armed guards even though I pointed out to you that the analogy was about not being
concerned about putting fear in your child as it pertains to car accidents but concerned about putting putting fear in his eyes as it pertains to bad people.

That speaks volumes to me as to how insecure you are starting to feel about your position.

So I will make you feel even MORE insecure.

What do you say to yoiur child when he sees a police car patrolling his neghborhood?
What do you say when he sees an armed guard at a Brinks truck?
A cop on the beat?
What kind of negative affect did it have on society when they had air raid drills?
How many schools were hiot by bombs from the air over the past...I dont know....200 years?
What kind of negative affect did it have on our children when we had big yellow signs with arrows that said "bomb shelter" throughout the schools?

Hope I get answers to my questions.
 
I don't know where your kids go to school, Luissa, but mine went to high school in Bridgeport Connecticut and had armed guards, 4 of them on duty at all times. The youngest graduated high school in 2002, so this is not a new phenomenon.

That's great for your children's school, my high school at a security guard, one and he wasn't armed and I did just fine. There is no guard at my son's school and he does just fine.
If you are so afraid of things that will probably never happen, home school your child or send them to a school where they treat them like a prisoner. Don't ruin my son's school, and don't teach my son to be scared of the boogey man.

I don't want your boy to be afraid. I want him to be alive.

Why are armed police officers scary to your son? Has he been raised to think he should fear a cop? Could that be because you fear what a police officer would do to you if he knew what was in that plastic bag in your purse?

My son loves Cops actually, thought it was the coolest thing ever when he got to meet one at my Uncle's funeral who was a Police Officer just like my other Uncle and Grandfather. We also won't mention the fact he owns about 50 Cop car toys.
And armed guards are not scary to my son, nothing is scary to my son, and I would like to keep it that way for as long as I can. His school does not need an armed guard, therefore I do not want an armed guard present.
And the cop would do nothing about the plastic bag that I don't keep in my purse because I can now legally carry it on me in the state of Washington.
But hey thanks for bringing that up. When right wingers got nothing, they sure do love to bring up the fact I smoke pot. Nice try Ernie, but you should have remembered I live in a state that isn't for the government telling us if we smoke pot or not.
 
So if someone is for the government not telling them who they should be allowed to marry, against gun control, for a women's right to choose, for drugs being legal, doesn't want armed guards at their child's school, not for drug testing TANF recipients, well is pretty much against drug testing in general, that translates into being for big government?
No of course not, but to an idiot like you because I don't go ape shit over taxes, one issue, that means I am for big government. Yep, you are onto something. :cuckoo:

I guess that is why I also get stuff like socialist anarchist when I take political tests. No, I am what is called a liberal and you are what is called an idiot.

Social anarchism, seriously? Tell me the truth, somebody made that category up because they didn't want to call themselves socialists.

The only reason government is in the marriage business at all is so they can tell people who can, and cannot, get married. Anyone that really wants the government not to be able to tell people who they can marry would be calling for the government not to be involved at all. You support government sanctioned marriage, that makes you pro big government.

I not only want drugs to be legal, I want them to be available without a prescription. You think the government needs to regulate drugs to keep them safe despite abundant evidence that unregulated drugs are perfectly safe. That makes you pro big government.

You want to impose your morality on everyone, that makes you pro big government.

You assume that the only way to provide armed guards at schools is through government intervention. Their is an entire state that allows any school employee to carry weapons on school grounds, and doesn't pay for any of it with taxpayer funds. In fact, they actually make money because everyone that carries a gun has to get a license to do so. If you were really a social anarchist you would be cheering Utah on, and trying to get your own state to allow the same thing. Unfortunately, you are actually pro big government.

As I have just demonstrated, it is not your support for those things that makes you big government, it is your demand that the government be involved at all that makes you pro big government.
I believe in government sanctioned marriage? Got a link to that? No I am for people getting the same rights as everyone else, I don't think the government should be involved in marriage at all. If the government is in the business of marriage, they shouldn't define it, that is all I have stated.
And I want to impose my morality on everyone else? How so? Please explain. Do I want my religion in public schools, do I allow my religion to tell you what you can do with your body or with your life in general?
You are an idiot, and have no clue what big government actually means.

The only "rights" in a marriage are the ones created by government through taxes and estate laws, I can get those same rights by making a will, or by specifying ownership through a private contract. The fact that you are trying to argue with me about that without pointing out the simple option proves you support government sanctioned marriage, alleviating me of the obligation to find another post where you support it.

We have been over the morality thing before. Your moral position is that life does not begin at conception, despite the abundant scientific evidence to the contrary. You are so insistent on your moral superiority in this that you demand that the government force everyone else to accept it. You also insist that the government force people to take care of the poor, even if they don't share your moral imperative to do so. I could probably think of other examples if you like, but I am quite sure that you will never admit that what you are doing is morally wrong. No one that thinks they are good ever thinks anything they do in the name of good is wrong.
 
Ouch. You are going so far off track it hurts my eyes.

Basic premise...there is an increase in school mass shootings....and an overall increase in mass shootings as well. We can either wait until it is commonplace....or we can possibkly save some lives by being proactive and arming the schools, malls, etc...at least until we find out why the increase and find a solution.

When was the last time your school had a fire? Why do they have fire drills?

Back in my day...the 60's.....we had air raid drills....yet at that time it was over 20 years since the ONLY time the US was hit by an enemy from the air (Pearl Harbor).....
You brought up seat belts, smart one.
and your bring up fire drills and you say I am going off the tracks? :lol:

Teaching your child to be prepared for a fire, doesn't equate to having a armed guard.

You still continue to imply that I was comparing seat belts to armed guards even though I pointed out to you that the analogy was about not being
concerned about putting fear in your child as it pertains to car accidents but concerned about putting putting fear in his eyes as it pertains to bad people.

That speaks volumes to me as to how insecure you are starting to feel about your position.

So I will make you feel even MORE insecure.

What do you say to yoiur child when he sees a police car patrolling his neghborhood?
What do you say when he sees an armed guard at a Brinks truck?
A cop on the beat?
What kind of negative affect did it have on society when they had air raid drills?
How many schools were hiot by bombs from the air over the past...I dont know....200 years?
What kind of negative affect did it have on our children when we had big yellow signs with arrows that said "bomb shelter" throughout the schools?
Many cops live in my neighborhood but don't patrol it, they do set up speed traps every once in awhile, but I live in a safe neighborhood.
And you are lecturing me on going off the tracks? :lol:
 
And tell me why it was needed at her school? Did they have a gun problem there, was it a bad neighborhood, was there a shooting there?

It was Bridgeport Connecticut, that great liberal bastion of tolerance.

Bridgeport is 95% a bad neighborhood. Even with 4 guards and metal detectors, both the younger kids saw guns in the school.
I remember whe the kids were in kindergarten and first grade, they got visits from cops who were called "Officer Friendly". My kids were always comfortable around Law Enforcement. Then, their mother and I didn't smoke dope.
 

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