A major reason health insurance companies dropping out of Obamacare

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Unbeknownst to a vast majority of people is a gigantic show stopper that was part of Obamacare.
The Affordable Care Act requires health insurance issuers to submit data on the proportion of premium revenues spent on clinical services and quality improvement, also known as the Medical Loss Ratio (MLR). It also requires them to issue rebates to enrollees if this percentage does not meet minimum standards. The Affordable Care Act requires insurance companies to spend at least 80% or 85% of premium dollars on medical care, with the rate review provisions imposing tighter limits on health insurance rate increases. If an issuer fails to meet the applicable MLR standard in any given year, as of 2012, the issuer is required to provide a rebate to its customers.Medical Loss Ratio - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services

Simply put, if an insurance company DOESN"T SPEND at least 80 to 85% of premium dollars on claims...they have to rebate to customers.

Most of you don't comprehend what that means. It was very simple.
The average health insurance company paid out 80¢ for every $1 in premium.
Obamacare required a minimum of 80¢ and as much as 85¢!
That would leave the insurance companies 15¢ for ALL OTHER EXPENSES but most importantly very little in profit.
NOW most of you idiots say well that's good. They make too much profit as it is!
DUMMIES!!!

Where do you think the insurance companies build reserves for future claims? Reserves required by state insurance regulations to be able to sell in the states!
Reserves come from profits. If health insurance companies have operating expenses greater then
15% guess what ? NO Profits. NO profits mean no reserves. No reserves means the state won't let them
sell!
That's why Kentucky’s co-op posted a “medical loss” ratio of 158% for 2014 – for every premium dollar it collected, it spent that dollar and an additional 58 cents on the cost of claims. The co-op now had even less of a margin for error after exhausting its existing federal loan allocations. That sort of performance was not sustainable for Kentucky or for the many other co-ops that are similarly challenged.
400,000 Citizens To Lose Health Insurance (Again) Because Of Obamacare Co-Op Failures


However, the ill-designed structure of the MLR provision may actually have the opposite effect, for two reasons:
First, it is likely to require higher average annual premiums (averaged over several years) for insurers to meet state solvency requirements.
Second, it might end up rewarding who raise premiums.
Those insurers with higher premiums will have to pay higher rebates to consumers, but the MLR formula (probably inadvertently) allows them to retain higher profits if they do so. Furthermore, since a majority of the population will be eligible for subsidies that insulate them from the cost of higher premiums (but still allow them to benefit from rebates), rebates might be used to “pay” customers to enroll in high-premium plans, in effect transferring to insurers large – and potentially unbounded – sums from taxpayers in the form of subsidies unrelated to medical costs. The result could turn out to be free, or even better-than-free, insurance for some individuals and families, and huge profits for insurers – all at the expense of taxpayers.

Rather than restraining insurance profits, the MLR rebates could become a vehicle for funneling taxpayer dollars from the federal government to subsidized consumers and to insurance company profits. In addition, the MLR formula allows insurers who know they will be paying a rebate to increase their medical spending without reducing their profits, thus bending the “cost curve” upward rather than downward.
https://www.americanactionforum.org/wp-content/uploads/files/research/MLR_Paper_Final.pdf
 
Year Six of the Affordable Care Act: Obamacare’s Mounting Problems

Fewer insurance companies was what Obama was after!

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the heritage foundation? do you also get your environmental news from Exxon?

Heritage Foundation's Health Care Report Is Another Big Lie | The Huffington Post

lol whats even more funny is that the heritage foundation invented obamacare in the 90's as a right wing alternative to universal healthcare now they spend $10's of millions a year telling right wing rubes what shit theyre own idea is
Obamacare is nothing more than legalized extortion, it has failed. Anyway, it's out the door anyways and good fucking riddance to you motherfuckers that think that it's so good to make millions go broke buying something They will never use…
 
We'd be wise to go to universal healthcare.
Well, that's fine if you want that shit, I don't give a fucking rats ass. The problem I have is they want everyone to be involved in the shit even those that don't want anything to do with it and will never use it...
I would rather die then use government healthcare
 
the heritage foundation? do you also get your environmental news from Exxon?

Heritage Foundation's Health Care Report Is Another Big Lie | The Huffington Post

lol whats even more funny is that the heritage foundation invented obamacare in the 90's as a right wing alternative to universal healthcare now they spend $10's of millions a year telling right wing rubes what shit theyre own idea is
Obamacare is nothing more than legalized extortion, it has failed. Anyway, it's out the door anyways and good fucking riddance to you motherfuckers that think that it's so good to make millions go broke buying something They will never use…
so why did you right wing assholes spend all those years promoting it? instead of working towards somekind of universal healthcare?
 
the heritage foundation? do you also get your environmental news from Exxon?

Heritage Foundation's Health Care Report Is Another Big Lie | The Huffington Post

lol whats even more funny is that the heritage foundation invented obamacare in the 90's as a right wing alternative to universal healthcare now they spend $10's of millions a year telling right wing rubes what shit theyre own idea is
Obamacare is nothing more than legalized extortion, it has failed. Anyway, it's out the door anyways and good fucking riddance to you motherfuckers that think that it's so good to make millions go broke buying something They will never use…
so why did you right wing assholes spend all those years promoting it? instead of working towards somekind of universal healthcare?
What do you mean by universal healthcare? why don't people just take care of their own shit? And if you want to form some type of exclusive program for healthcare make it an opt in. Why should you include everybody, when millions want nothing to do with it and will never use it…
 
Anyone who want the Govt. to provide HC for three hundred million Americans is a moron.

The Govt. has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire life.

It will turn into mounds of paperwork, red tape and long waits.

That's was Govt. does best.
 
Unbeknownst to a vast majority of people is a gigantic show stopper that was part of Obamacare.
The Affordable Care Act requires health insurance issuers to submit data on the proportion of premium revenues spent on clinical services and quality improvement, also known as the Medical Loss Ratio (MLR). It also requires them to issue rebates to enrollees if this percentage does not meet minimum standards. The Affordable Care Act requires insurance companies to spend at least 80% or 85% of premium dollars on medical care, with the rate review provisions imposing tighter limits on health insurance rate increases. If an issuer fails to meet the applicable MLR standard in any given year, as of 2012, the issuer is required to provide a rebate to its customers.Medical Loss Ratio - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services

Simply put, if an insurance company DOESN"T SPEND at least 80 to 85% of premium dollars on claims...they have to rebate to customers.

Most of you don't comprehend what that means. It was very simple.
The average health insurance company paid out 80¢ for every $1 in premium.
Obamacare required a minimum of 80¢ and as much as 85¢!
That would leave the insurance companies 15¢ for ALL OTHER EXPENSES but most importantly very little in profit.
NOW most of you idiots say well that's good. They make too much profit as it is!
DUMMIES!!!

Where do you think the insurance companies build reserves for future claims? Reserves required by state insurance regulations to be able to sell in the states!
Reserves come from profits. If health insurance companies have operating expenses greater then
15% guess what ? NO Profits. NO profits mean no reserves. No reserves means the state won't let them
sell!
That's why Kentucky’s co-op posted a “medical loss” ratio of 158% for 2014 – for every premium dollar it collected, it spent that dollar and an additional 58 cents on the cost of claims. The co-op now had even less of a margin for error after exhausting its existing federal loan allocations. That sort of performance was not sustainable for Kentucky or for the many other co-ops that are similarly challenged.
400,000 Citizens To Lose Health Insurance (Again) Because Of Obamacare Co-Op Failures


However, the ill-designed structure of the MLR provision may actually have the opposite effect, for two reasons:
First, it is likely to require higher average annual premiums (averaged over several years) for insurers to meet state solvency requirements.
Second, it might end up rewarding who raise premiums.
Those insurers with higher premiums will have to pay higher rebates to consumers, but the MLR formula (probably inadvertently) allows them to retain higher profits if they do so. Furthermore, since a majority of the population will be eligible for subsidies that insulate them from the cost of higher premiums (but still allow them to benefit from rebates), rebates might be used to “pay” customers to enroll in high-premium plans, in effect transferring to insurers large – and potentially unbounded – sums from taxpayers in the form of subsidies unrelated to medical costs. The result could turn out to be free, or even better-than-free, insurance for some individuals and families, and huge profits for insurers – all at the expense of taxpayers.

Rather than restraining insurance profits, the MLR rebates could become a vehicle for funneling taxpayer dollars from the federal government to subsidized consumers and to insurance company profits. In addition, the MLR formula allows insurers who know they will be paying a rebate to increase their medical spending without reducing their profits, thus bending the “cost curve” upward rather than downward.
https://www.americanactionforum.org/wp-content/uploads/files/research/MLR_Paper_Final.pdf
In one week, Obamacare will cease to exist!!!!
 
We'd be wise to go to universal healthcare.

Great, as soon as all you folks that want it volunteer to step and pay the full cost of it we can end the debate and you folks can start writing checks to the treasury.

Those of us that want no part of it can spend the fruits of our labor elsewhere.
 
What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?
 
We'd be wise to go to universal healthcare.

We'd be wise to get the government out of healthcare. I'll provide mine and you can provide yours or anyone else's you choose to do so with your money. I'll have mine and don't give a shit if you get any.
 
We'd be wise to go to universal healthcare.

Great, as soon as all you folks that want it volunteer to step and pay the full cost of it we can end the debate and you folks can start writing checks to the treasury.

Those of us that want no part of it can spend the fruits of our labor elsewhere.

What Matthew failed to say was that it will involve people he thinks has too much or owes someone something being forced to fund it.
 
What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?
 
What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?

Yes it is. It's the foundational principle of insurance. You just don't know what you are talking about. That's fine...but you should stop talking about it until you do.
 
What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?

Yes it is. It's the foundational principle of insurance. You just don't know what you are talking about. That's fine...but you should stop talking about it until you do.

You're confused. Insurance, prior to Obamacare, was a choice. If someone chose to be part of a group, they accepted how things works. With Obamacare and a mandate, it's quite different. That's fine. You have no clue and likely never will.

I don't give a shit if you have coverage. You could die from lack of it and the only people that would care that you did don't matter. That means you don't matter.
 
What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?

Yes it is. It's the foundational principle of insurance. You just don't know what you are talking about. That's fine...but you should stop talking about it until you do.

You're confused. Insurance, prior to Obamacare, was a choice. If someone chose to be part of a group, they accepted how things works. With Obamacare and a mandate, it's quite different. That's fine. You have no clue and likely never will.

I don't give a shit if you have coverage. You could die from lack of it and the only people that would care that you did don't matter. That means you don't matter.

I know that is how you feel. You are a nutbag who will never admit that my tax dollars makes your lifestyle, whatever it is, possible. You don't get it. You have been tainted.
 

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