A major reason health insurance companies dropping out of Obamacare

[owebo]

What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?

Yes it is. It's the foundational principle of insurance. You just don't know what you are talking about. That's fine...but you should stop talking about it until you do.

So, it's a foundational principal of insurance that I pay for someone else's premium? Do tell you fucking idiot......

 

[Conservative65]

What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?

Yes it is. It's the foundational principle of insurance. You just don't know what you are talking about. That's fine...but you should stop talking about it until you do.

You're confused. Insurance, prior to Obamacare, was a choice. If someone chose to be part of a group, they accepted how things works. With Obamacare and a mandate, it's quite different. That's fine. You have no clue and likely never will.

I don't give a shit if you have coverage. You could die from lack of it and the only people that would care that you did don't matter. That means you don't matter.

I know that is how you feel. You are a nutbag who will never admit that my tax dollars makes your lifestyle, whatever it is, possible. You don't get it. You have been tainted.

You've earned that feeling.

You're one of those pieces of shit that makes claims he has yet to prove and has shown he's not man enough to do it despite being given a way to do so.

I get it. You're a coward that hides behind his computer.

 

[Conservative65]

What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?

Yes it is. It's the foundational principle of insurance. You just don't know what you are talking about. That's fine...but you should stop talking about it until you do.

So, it's a foundational principal of insurance that I pay for someone else's premium? Do tell you fucking idiot......

He's an idiot. He thinks people having chosen to be part of an insurance group knowing how insurance works is the same as people being forced to fund it for someone else.

 

[Scorpion]

What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?

Yes it is. It's the foundational principle of insurance. You just don't know what you are talking about. That's fine...but you should stop talking about it until you do.

And when one purchases insurance , it is generally a voluntary act initiated by the consumer to protect themselves from a potentially costly incident.
The ACA isn't voluntary.

 

[Conservative65]

What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?

Yes it is. It's the foundational principle of insurance. You just don't know what you are talking about. That's fine...but you should stop talking about it until you do.

And when one purchases insurance , it is generally a voluntary act initiated by the consumer to protect themselves from a potentially costly incident.
The ACA isn't voluntary.

That's what I tried to explain to that idiot. He thinks my choice, pre Obamacare, of whether or not to have insurance, is the same as post Obamacare mandates to buy it.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

The end of CommieCare......

"HISTORIC" Lol

 

[LoneLaugher]

Silly nutters.

If you choose not to get insurance and then get cancer, who pays to see to it that you don't die?

Silly, silly nutters.

 

[LoneLaugher]

What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?

Yes it is. It's the foundational principle of insurance. You just don't know what you are talking about. That's fine...but you should stop talking about it until you do.

And when one purchases insurance , it is generally a voluntary act initiated by the consumer to protect themselves from a potentially costly incident.
The ACA isn't voluntary.

That's what I tried to explain to that idiot. He thinks my choice, pre Obamacare, of whether or not to have insurance, is the same as post Obamacare mandates to buy it.

You still have a choice to not buy it. Why are you lying?

 

[NightFox]

What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?

Yes it is. It's the foundational principle of insurance. You just don't know what you are talking about. That's fine...but you should stop talking about it until you do.

And when one purchases insurance , it is generally a voluntary act initiated by the consumer to protect themselves from a potentially costly incident.
The ACA isn't voluntary.

Exactly, that's the gub'mint worshiper mentality:

"Our ideas are so good that we have to force people to go along with and pay the hyper-inflated, government takes a slice off the top costs for them."

If the ACA was such a great thing for everybody it wouldn't need government force backed mandates, people would go along voluntarily, of course that would take persuasion and pointing a gun at someone's head and forcing them to go along is so much easier.

"If you don't want to be a slave, stop acting like a slave." -- Stefan Molyneux

 

[Conservative65]

What percentage of insured Americans buy insurance on the exchange?

Why do you people think that "Obamacare" is only bought on the exchange?

When will you learn?

How many people not being able to buy insurance can ONLY do it because someone else pays the taxes that fund their handout subsidy? When will you learn that one person's coverage isn't the responsibility of another person to fund?

Yes it is. It's the foundational principle of insurance. You just don't know what you are talking about. That's fine...but you should stop talking about it until you do.

And when one purchases insurance , it is generally a voluntary act initiated by the consumer to protect themselves from a potentially costly incident.
The ACA isn't voluntary.

That's what I tried to explain to that idiot. He thinks my choice, pre Obamacare, of whether or not to have insurance, is the same as post Obamacare mandates to buy it.

You still have a choice to not buy it. Why are you lying?

And you still think paying a penalty for not doing so is the same situation as pre Obamacare when the choice was just a choice.

Typical moron. No wonder we got a black social experiment as President.

 

[healthmyths]

Silly nutters.

If you choose not to get insurance and then get cancer, who pays to see to it that you don't die?

Silly, silly nutters.

But if YOU CHOOSE to smoke for 20 years and get lung cancer, YOU made that lifestyle choice.
If you choose to skateboard holding on to a car and you break a leg, YOU made that choice.
Why should I pay for YOUR lifestyle choices?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Man.....are you guys ever gonna be pissed off when the "mandate" is replaced by a tax.

Trump isn't going to sign anything that reduces the number of insured Americans. It's got to be paid for somehow.

Silly nutters.

 

[there4eyeM]

Is auto insurance required?

 

[NightFox]

Is auto insurance required?

Only if you choose to drive on public roads.

 

[Scorpion]

Silly nutters.

If you choose not to get insurance and then get cancer, who pays to see to it that you don't die?

Silly, silly nutters.

But if YOU CHOOSE to smoke for 20 years and get lung cancer, YOU made that lifestyle choice.
If you choose to skateboard holding on to a car and you break a leg, YOU made that choice.
Why should I pay for YOUR lifestyle choices?

Our employer based insurance offers 5 levels.
Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum and Diamond.
OUR portion of our share of the premium is based on 6 different health risk factors: Asthma, Tobacco use, Obesity, Cholesterol, Diabetes and the sixth I can never remember.
If you have any one of these risk factors and do not seek corrective, verifiable treatment, you are placed on the Bronze plan.
Last March I had a yearly physical.
I use an inhaler for seasonal allergies and reactions to too many cats in my mother in laws home.
The intake nurse, unbeknownst to me, recorded I had asthma.

In November, we received notification we were on the Bronze plan because I didn't seek 'treatment and counseling' for asthma by March 31.
My post appointment paperwork section marked follow up treatment was left blank. Why would I see a specialist if it wasn't indicated in my paperwork?

Anyway, long story short, we got back on the Gold plan we've had since the ACA's inception after appealing our case.

But if my husband doesn't lose 20 pounds by September, back to Bronze.

Any of these other plans, employer or exchange, monitor the insured persons risks to this extent?

 

[CowboyTed]

Anyone who want the Govt. to provide HC for three hundred million Americans is a moron.

The Govt. has never done anything cheaply or well in its entire life.

It will turn into mounds of paperwork, red tape and long waits.

That's was Govt. does best.

Except all Empirical data proves you wrong...

The OP here is complaining that Health Issuers can only spent 15-20% on Admin and profits...

Medicare spend 1.4% on administrative costs...
Important: What are Medicare’s true administrative costs? - PNHP's Official Blog

Think about is that is a about 15% better than Private.

This amounts to $100+bn a year in waste by Private companies...

And the OP is complaining it isn't higher...

 

[there4eyeM]

Is auto insurance required?

Only if you choose to drive on public roads.

ACA is no more compulsory, then. One may choose not to participate in the sharing society built by everyone.

 

[Cellblock2429]

/--- Obozocare was designed to fail so the DemocRATS could say we tried free market but it just doesn't work. Now with the help of President Hildabeast Clinton, we're going to shove Single Payer down your throat and ration your care. But don't worry we'll make sure we have Primo healthcare for ourselves at your expense. But Alas - Hildabeast blew the election.

 

[Cellblock2429]

"Say NO to small idiotic government and YES to accountable government!!"

The American people just shitcanned your stupid slogan. And by "accountable" do you mean following the law and abiding the will of the people? Will do ya Punk?

 

[NightFox]

Is auto insurance required?

Only if you choose to drive on public roads.

ACA is no more compulsory, then. One may choose not to participate in the sharing society built by everyone.

Huh, I must have missed the part of the ACA where one was able to choose to opt out of all the "benefits" as well as paying for all the expenses, perhaps you could be kind enough to point of the page number where that portion of the law is laid out, I'd also like to read the portion that covers the steps I need to take to reverse the fact that my health insurance policy options got reduced from "plenty" to "few" and from "reasonably priced" to "fucking outrageously expensive" as soon as the ACA went into effect.

If this is an example of "sharing society built by everyone" , then said society is nothing more than a predatory jungle where the looters utilize government force to prey upon the builders.

Your claim that the ACA is optional like Auto Insurance is optional is akin to claiming that you can avoid having to pay for Auto Insurance by choosing not to drive an automobile on public roads just like you can avoid having to pay for the ACA by choosing to forgo breathing.